[Faust]

Sorry didn’t realise it was your briefing room thread lol! Apologies.

[kellyhound]

‘Russia isn’t ‘adopting’ Ukraine’s children – they are being kidnapped’

As Russia’s invasion terrorised a generation of Ukrainian children last year, the fate of one group of youngsters hung particularly in the balance. Languishing in Soviet-era institutions across the land were 25,000 orphans – most with no parents to pick them up and run from Vladimir Putin’s bombs.

Some orphanages were forced to shut, their children handed over to emergency care or whatever relatives could be found to look after them. Other orphanages, in cities under Kremlin occupation, saw their children deported along with thousands of others to Russia, where families are paid to adopt and “assimilate” them.

The state-backed child abductions have been denounced as a crime against humanity, amid fears that many may never see Ukraine again. Yet it has also shed an unflattering light on Ukraine’s orphanage system itself – a legacy of Soviet rule that Ukraine’s First Lady, Olena Zelenska, has vowed to end. Her new charity, the Olena Zelenska Foundation, is backing a policy of “deinstitutionalisation”, phasing out orphanages in favour of foster care instead.

“We inherited these institutions from our time as part of the Soviet Union,” Nina Horbachova, the foundation’s Kyiv-based director, told The Telegraph. “The children who are in them are often not properly socialised or educated in a family atmosphere, and we want to change that.”

Ukraine has Europe’s largest number of children in orphanages, with 25,000 in full-time care and 100,000 in part-time care, many of them with disabilities. They are a reminder of life under Communism, when the state insisted it knew best, and routinely put children into institutional care. Sometimes this was because of genuine family difficulties; sometimes because parents had just fallen foul of the authorities.

Last year, a BBC investigation revealed conditions in orphanages reminiscent of those in 1990s Romania, where an international outcry led to most being shut down. The BBC team visited some institutions where disabled residents were kept with their hands bound together. In others, adults spend their lives in cots, causing their limbs to distort.

The First Lady’s foundation’s current focus is on the 10,000 Ukrainian children already with foster families. The charity helps them cope as best they can through the war, assisting more than 2,000 who have evacuated abroad, and helping those still in Ukraine to access decent housing.

With the war also creating a new generation of orphans, the charity hopes to encourage more Ukrainian families to adopt. This hasn’t always had much take-up in the past, with many Ukrainian children being put up for adoption overseas.

“Taking on somebody else’s child is not easy, but I think many Ukrainian families may come to it with an open heart now,” says Horbachova. “And the more the war is prolonged, the more children are likely to be orphaned and need fostering.”

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Okay well the independent republics were invaded first by ukraine so maybe you were talking about that?
Also your pride means nothing as your country sends equipment to conflict zones all over the world much to the detriment of the local civilians, including Ukraine

"Your country sends equipment to conflict zones all over the world much to the detriment of the local civilians, including Ukraine"

Faust, Fausting !

You don't even know what country I'm from let alone making a comment on the "Detriment of the local civilians" bit !

Grasping at straws again with your word smithing !

Anything else Einstein as your using the wrong thread !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Sorry didn’t realise it was your briefing room thread lol! Apologies.

Same old Faust, Fausting ! He doesn't even know where his own ass is, yet he wants to comment & advise us all on his "Demented Ideals that he calls Facts" about the invasion of Ukraine. LOL !
Now wake up to yourself & take it else ware you fool !
THE END !

Back to issues !
Anyone have credible intel on the French stores that are still operational in Russia

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

‘Russia isn’t ‘adopting’ Ukraine’s children – they are being kidnapped’

Evil 101 !

[WonderMomma]

"The first group of 635 Ukrainian soldiers has completed training at a U.S. base in Germany, the Pentagon reports. They learned how to drive Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, as well as general military and maneuver training.

Now the second group of 710 soldiers is undergoing training to master the M109 Paladin self-propelled artillery systems. Next week, they will be joined by another 810 soldiers who will learn how to use Stryker armored fighting vehicles."

[WonderMomma]

"A Ukrainian Lieutenant posted on the Kharkiv-Sumy border has claimed Russia has amassed a 10,000 strong army across the border."

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

‘Russia isn’t ‘adopting’ Ukraine’s children – they are being kidnapped’

Other orphanages, in cities under Kremlin occupation, saw their children deported along with thousands of others to Russia, where families are paid to adopt and “assimilate” them.

The state-backed child abductions have been denounced as a crime against humanity, amid fears that many may never see Ukraine again

….
Ukraine has Europe’s largest number of children in orphanages, with 25,000 in full-time care and 100,000 in part-time care, many of them with disabilities.
…

Do the orphan kids from eastern Ukraine (“ cities under Kremlin occupation”) also see it as a crime that they are adopted into a family in a country where they are still allowed to speak the Russian language and are allowed to practice the Orthodox religion, or would they rather be in an orphanage located in a country that essentially adopted genocide laws (being denied religion, language, literature, history)?

Personally I think orphanages can be really fun for the kids so I can see why they would rather be chilling with other orphans, even if they have to learn another language (which is also fun if you think about)

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Do the orphan kids from eastern Ukraine (“ cities under Kremlin occupation”) also see it as a crime that they are adopted into a family in a country where they are still allowed to speak the Russian language and are allowed to practice the Orthodox religion, or would they rather be in an orphanage located in a country that essentially adopted genocide laws (being denied religion, language, literature, history)?

Personally I think orphanages can be really fun for the kids so I can see why they would rather be chilling with other orphans, even if they have to learn another language (which is also fun if you think about)

You're getting very close to the "Waka Moley Button" with shit like that !

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Roosta ↗

You're getting very close to the "Waka Moley Button" with shit like that !

Do you have anything to add to the topic being discussed?

It is true that many orphans form a bond between them, and thus they would rather be with their ‘family’ instead of living a single child with other people who they never met before.

Also learning a new language is a hobby for many people, and kids can either practice religion later in life or pray in secret anyway. So I kind of agree with the article kellyhound posted that some kids rather stay in the orphanage instead of being adopted into a family in another country. Even if that country has the same ethnic customs and language as the orphans themselves.