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Originally Posted by Faust ↗

This is the briefing room? Was just wondering about the actual combat effectiveness is all. We know the russian tanks get defeated easily by anti tank weapons. Yet it currently appears in the news that the M1 and the leopard 2 are invincible, however if you limit your search results to 1-1-2022 then you can easily find footage of basically all models of tanks being destroyed pretty easily by third world forces

No you're just trying to argue with what you "want" certain people to think about modern western tanks. That's why you said "be honest" earlier. Who ever said they're invincible? No one. Media is just being the media and turning everything into some spectacle. The M1 Abrams is not invincible and never will be. Just stop.

[WonderMomma]

Seized 50 million from the accounts of Russian tea producer Greenfield transferred to the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The investigation established that enterprises engaged in the production and sale of tea are operating in Kyiv and other regions of Ukraine. The ultimate beneficial owners of the companies are residents of the Russian Federation

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(If you guys want to see less of news like this, please let me know, just posting stuff that might be of interest)

"Putin "found" American invading troops in Germany

The Russian dictator has invented another fable, which he happily shared with students of Moscow State University:

"After the Second World War, Germany was divided, as you know, into 4 sectors: American, British, French and Soviet. So the Soviet Union formalized the termination of this occupation status. The United States did not. Formally, legally, there are American invading troops on the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany, and in fact there are a lot of them."

Finally, the dictator noted that even the top officials of Germany admit that their country "has never been a sovereign state in the full sense of the word."

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A visual of the modern Western tanks to be supplied to Ukraine

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Specs on a Leopard 2

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The description for this post is shit... but I have included it below. Looks like a Russian in another country (likely Poland) passes by tanks that are being sent to Ukraine and has something to say about it. I took screen shots of the text in the video and translated/transcribed it below.

"In Russian, well, it’s just the most nebambit, the ost from “Top Gun” adds a degree of shiza"

Translation of subtitles:
•Look, I'm going to overtake a column of these f*ggots, bitch. I'm their mouth f*al. Damn it, bitch.
•Bitch, the old fucking tanks. I'm their mouth f*al b*ya. Where are you taking this, you fucking bitch?
•Pid* races, b*ya, bitches
•Here, nah *y, right now I would f*** right at them with artillery such that they would oh * eat these Polish f*ggots, B*** me

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

The moment Zelenskyy hears that Germany is sending Leopards and Scholz wants to talk to him about it.

Good news indeed !

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Modern Leopards are top notch tanks. Not so much the 2A4's as they've been shown to not have best armor separating crew from ammo but If I couldn't have an Abrams M1A2 SEP series I'd like a Leopard 2A6 or 2A7.

[Faust]

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...ttle-why-78441

For anybody else wanting to get some solid articles and numbers on actual battle performance, be sure to use google and limit your search results to everything before 1-1-2022, otherwise you will mostly get wishful thinking articles.

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Originally Posted by Faust ↗

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...ttle-why-78441

For anybody else wanting to get some solid articles and numbers on actual battle performance, be sure to use google and limit your search results to everything before 1-1-2022, otherwise you will mostly get wishful thinking articles.

The main difference between eastern tanks and western tanks is that the latter is more survivable for the crew when hit. That's a fact because the ammunition is physically separated from the crew. If you want to challenge facts and the world on that, go ahead. You'll lose miserably just fyi.