[Faust]

My sources state that 100s were destroyed by ..”insurgents”

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

How many never came back from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq? Be honest

All of them. Humvees not so much. Also, fuck off.

If anyone's curious we did lose a couple in Iraq.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Still in desert camouflage. Maybe some of the abrams that were stored overseas after the marine retired them and sent to poland or the baltic countries?

In Ukraine it's known as "Winter's death" camoflage. (I just made this up lol)

[WonderMomma]

The moment Zelenskyy hears that Germany is sending Leopards and Scholz wants to talk to him about it.

[WonderMomma]

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukra...lensky-1776426

Full List of NATO Countries Sending Tanks to Ukraine
25 January 2023, 08:55 ET

Germany's announcement it would send Leopard 2 main battle tanks (MBTs) to Ukraine has put it in a group of a dozen other countries which are reportedly prepared to give Kyiv armored vehicles.

Berlin said on Wednesday in a statement it would provide, "as a first step" 14 Leopard 2 A6 tanks from Bundeswehr stocks with the aim of "quickly" assembling two tank battalions.

Ukrainian crews would be trained in Germany which would also provide logistics, ammunition and system maintenance.

The move followed "intensive consultations" among Germany's allies which took place as German Chancellor Olaf Scholz faced increasing pressure over a perceived reluctance to provide Kyiv with the tanks they say are essential to fight against Vladimir Putin's forces.

"This decision follows our well-known line of supporting Ukraine to the best of our ability," Scholz said according to a translation, "we are acting in a closely coordinated manner internationally."

The re-export of the German-made tanks requires Berlin's permission and so it was predicted that the green light from Berlin would lead to other countries following suit. There are 13 European armies that use Leopard 2s.

A senior Ukrainian official told ABC News that a coalition of 12 countries had pledged MBTs to Ukraine at last Friday's summit at Ramstein US Air Force Base in Germany of allied nations.

Poland has said it was prepared send to Kyiv 14 of its Leopard 2 tanks from its stock of around 250. Finland, which is not in NATO, but has requested to join the alliance, has publicly said it was willing to provide the MBTs, while ABC News reported that Spain, the Netherlands and Denmark were also willing to provide some of their tanks.

The Spanish newspaper El Pais reported Madrid would supply the tanks once Germany had agreed to supply the tanks, Spain will as well. Portugal is also reportedly getting ready to send Kyiv four Leopard 2 tanks.

Meanwhile, Norway is considering supplying Ukraine with up to eight Leopard 2s, out of its stock of 35, according to Norwegian publication Dagens Næringsliv.

On January 16, the United Kingdom said it would send Ukraine 14 Challenger 2 tanks while French President Emmanuel Macron said on January 22 he has not ruled out that France might send Kyiv its Leclerc tanks.

So far in the war, Warsaw has backfilled the Ukrainian armed forces with T-72s and Polish-made PT-91 tanks. Further T-72s were delivered by the Czech Republic and Bulgaria, according to the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR).

Meanwhile, U.S. officials have said that President Joe Biden's administration will soon announce the decision to supply Ukraine with up to 30 M1A2 Abrams.

The provision of MBTs to Ukraine will help Ukraine "conduct mechanized warfare to defeat the Russian military and liberate Ukrainian territory," the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said on Tuesday.

However, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the prospect of the U.S. and Germany sending battle tanks to Ukraine "brings more tension to the continent. But it cannot prevent Russia from reaching our goals."

Russian ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov previously told Newsweek that "American tanks without any doubt will be destroyed as all other samples of NATO military equipment."

Here is a list of the countries which have so far pledged tanks to Ukraine, or are reportedly considering to do so.

• Germany
• Finland (not in NATO)
• Poland
• Portugal
• Spain
• Netherlands
• Denmark
• Norway
• United States
• Czech Republic
• Bulgaria
• United Kingdom
• France

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

All of them. Humvees not so much. Also, fuck off.

If anyone's curious we did lose a couple in Iraq.

Iraqi Army service[edit]
Between 2010 and 2012 the U.S. supplied 140 refurbished M1A1 Abrams tanks to Iraq. In mid-2014, they saw action when the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant launched the June 2014 Northern Iraq offensive. During three months, about one-third of the Iraqi Army's M1 tanks had been damaged or destroyed by ISIL and some were captured by opposing forces. By December 2014, the Iraqi Army only had about 40 operational Abrams left.

This is Wikipedia but 100 is a few? This is only in a short time period and against… Isis?

[WonderMomma]

I'm seeing info that a large military barracks of occupied soldiers in Mariupol was shelled by AFU the evening of 24 January. Russia reports that 200 personnel died, but pro-UA sources saying closer to 550-600 personnel killed. I'm searching for media/info as we speak and will post any I find in the media thread or update this post. Or both.

EDIT: Not having much luck finding media about this event. Added a couple of things below. FYI there has been a "Mariupol Resistance" going on for some time in Mariupol against the occupation there. They've gone around Mariupol spray painting phrases and symbols as well as leaving UA flags and blue/yellow ribbons all over the place.

1. "Mariupol Cotton (explosions).
Today at approximately 18:00 I visited the barracks of the occupiers, which was marked the day before by members of the Mariupol Resistance group.
The place of the cotton festival is tightly closed by military occupiers. Everything is up in smoke, a lot of ambulances and ambulances. 200+ occupiers of Caucasian appearance, Dagestanis or Kadyrivians were based in this barracks.
It is not yet possible to establish the number of enemy losses, but there is no doubt that they are considerable.
A really gorgeous day for Mariupol. This is just the beginning. More will follow.
Rusnia, what about the ball?
For reference, this is the second arrival in this territory in a day. In the morning, there was a slight "missing" of 150 meters in the direction of the Kalmius Police Department"

2. Not directly related but happened exactly 8 years ago in Mariupol.
"On this day exactly 8 years ago. January 24, 2015
The first massive missile attack by Russian terrorists on Mariupol. 31 people died and 117 were injured."

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Iraqi Army service[edit]
Between 2010 and 2012 the U.S. supplied 140 refurbished M1A1 Abrams tanks to Iraq. In mid-2014, they saw action when the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant launched the June 2014 Northern Iraq offensive. During three months, about one-third of the Iraqi Army's M1 tanks had been damaged or destroyed by ISIL and some were captured by opposing forces. By December 2014, the Iraqi Army only had about 40 operational Abrams left.

This is Wikipedia but 100 is a few? This is only in a short time period and against… Isis?

I was talking about M1's with US crews, obviously. And you are once again derailing a thread. Keep it up

[Faust]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47qnr5

[Faust]

This is the briefing room? Was just wondering about the actual combat effectiveness is all. We know the russian tanks get defeated easily by anti tank weapons. Yet it currently appears in the news that the M1 and the leopard 2 are invincible, however if you limit your search results to 1-1-2022 then you can easily find footage of basically all models of tanks being destroyed pretty easily by third world forces