[ljubodrag]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

The time it happened is sort of irrelevant at this point. If there was "military logistics" actually there as your sources claim, then by normal warfare standards it was a valid military target.

Here's some pictures and one video.

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Also, I believe you were asked to stop serially calling people "lassie" which could be construed for repetitively calling specific people here a bitch.

What? You can't be serious? It's a term of endearment. Word that describes my love and affection for you guys. ♥

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Technically I am the only bitch/lassie participating regularly here.

Or what we in Scotland would say "queen lassie".

But if that word is such a big problem for you, okay. I'll put it right besides the RU MOD daily stats and the word boinked.

Happy Monday!

[Ady347]

Originally Posted by ljubodrag ↗

See what I did there?

If you quote me, quote me, lassie. Don't put words I didn't wright in my posts.

You showed your true colours the other day.. deleting your post as you realised your being an arse. Unfortunately for you it was screenshot before you could delete your stupidity.

How your not banned I don't know

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by ljubodrag ↗

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Is that a Polish license plate? It looks like a "p" or is it a Ukrainian license plate and it means something else in Ukraine?

[ljubodrag]

Originally Posted by Jsimon003 ↗

Do you feel better now getting that out?

Much better, thank you for asking.

What a fine young man you are asking me how do I feel. American by any chance?

[b0g]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

I was always saying that in 2014 pro-Nazi took power.

"pro-Nazi"
"took power"

Did you survive the millenium bug,
or are you a genuine fantast?

Do you know that joke about the pirate and the parrot?

... Does this pet speak?
Parrot's reply: Dunno, I haven't got him that long.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by b0g ↗

"pro-Nazi"
"took power"

Did you survive the millenium bug,
or are you a genuine fantast?

Do you know that joke about the pirate and the parrot?

... Does this pet speak?
Parrot's reply: Dunno, I haven't got him that long.

I’m half Ukrainian, was born in Ukraine. So I know something about this conflict and about differences between Ukrainians due to their complicated history.
My mom, my uncle are still living in Krimea. My wife’s relatives live in Kremenchug. I know plenty of Ukrainians from both sides of this conflict. So when I say Pro NAZI or took power, I’m not a fantast, that’s my position as Ukrainian on what happened in Ukraine back in 2014.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

...o when I say Pro NAZI...

I'm just curious, what exactly is a nazi for you?

I've seen many Russian interviews and read countless Russian comments and none of them seem to have any idea what a nazi is.

As far as most ruzzians are concerned, a nazi is anyone who doesn't want to be part of the ruski reich.

So, what makes a ukrainian nazi. What are their beliefs. What do they want. Who do they kill.
How are they different from russian nazis. And so on.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

I'm just curious, what exactly is a nazi for you?

I've seen many Russian interviews and read countless Russian comments and none of them seem to have any idea what a nazi is.

As far as most ruzzians are concerned, a nazi is anyone who doesn't want to be part of the ruski reich.

So, what makes a ukrainian nazi. What are their beliefs. What do they want. Who do they kill.
How are they different from russian nazis. And so on.

Maybe you’ve seen funny interviews idk, like those when people of NY were asked who won in WW2 and one answered Berlin.. other answers were not brighter. I call Pro NAZI those, who think that people who fought on the side of NAZI during WW2 are heroes. Those political parties Svoboda, pravij sector, Nac korpus, c14 or private military groups like DNEPR, AYDAR, TORNADO. Those who proudly wear SS badges on their uniform. Those who’s marching on the streets of UA with hatred slogans towards Russians ( before the war) And those who is proud of the battalions who killed thousands innocent Polish, Jewish and Soviet people in the name of Hitler. I will not accept the term freedom fighters. Then might as well I’ll call HAMAS freedom fighters too.


They took an oath to Hitler, they served in the Himmlers SS, they killed thousands innocent people. If you like them, you are pro NAZI.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Maybe you’ve seen funny interviews idk, like those when people of NY were asked who won in WW2 and one answered Berlin.. other answers were not brighter. I call Pro NAZI those, who think that people who fought on the side of NAZI during WW2 are heroes. Those political parties Svoboda, pravij sector, Nac korpus, c14 or private military groups like DNEPR, AYDAR, TORNADO. Those who proudly wear SS badges on their uniform. Those who’s marching on the streets of UA with hatred slogans towards Russians ( before the war) And those who is proud of the battalions who killed thousands innocent Polish, Jewish and Soviet people in the name of Hitler. I will not accept the term freedom fighters. Then might as well I’ll call HAMAS freedom fighters too.


They took an oath to Hitler, they served in the Himmlers SS, they killed thousands innocent people. If you like them, you are pro NAZI.

...I call Pro NAZI those, who think that people who fought on the side of NAZI during WW2 are heroes...

You do understand that those people are all dead by now. No one is fighting for the nazi side now. No one is taking an oath to hitler or himmler.

You still keep telling me who you consider a nazi, but not what a nazi is, what they want, what are their claims and so on.

Those who’s marching on the streets of UA with hatred slogans towards Russians

And what are these slogans? How many people are there with these slogans and which political parties( with what percentage of power ) push these slogans?

I will not accept the term freedom fighters.

If you don't accept the term freedom fighters for people who fight for freedom, then don't you think you are a bit delusional?

Would you also call people/russians who honor Stalin and soviet era generals as terrorists and murderers? Would you agree to move all of Stalin's statues into some hall of shame?
Do you agree that every Russian who places flowers onto the graves of fallen russian soldiers in WW2 is secretly a terrorist who wants to rebuild gulags?

I have a hunch that you don't. I have a hunch that when it comes to Russia, you have no problem separating the Russian crimes against humanity from Russian war of self-defence against Germany.

I'm just curious, how can you not comprehend the same thing from the point of view of other countries? It's not difficult at all. What if USA and the West didn't enter the war at all, Russia received no lend-lease aid from the US and the full might of the German war machine was directed against Russia from day 1. Russia would be hopelessly outgunned and outmatched.

What would Russians do, if they saw Germany advancing day by day, killing and torturing Russians on their way to the East.
What would Russia do, if China declared war against Germany and started pushing in from the East, and rush towards the Germans, to wipe them out. Would some Russians greet the Chinese as liberators? Would some Russians join the Chinese army and fight alongside China?
If you have a shred of honesty, you would say yes.
The exact same thing happened in all the countries russia invaded before the german invasion.
Many people who wanted their own country saw the enemy of their enemy as their ally...a useful tool.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

You do understand that those people are all dead by now. No one is fighting for the nazi side now. No one is taking an oath to hitler or himmler.

You still keep telling me who you consider a nazi, but not what a nazi is, what they want, what are their claims and so on.


And what are these slogans? How many people are there with these slogans and which political parties( with what percentage of power ) push these slogans?


If you don't accept the term freedom fighters for people who fight for freedom, then don't you think you are a bit delusional?

Would you also call people/russians who honor Stalin and soviet era generals as terrorists and murderers? Would you agree to move all of Stalin's statues into some hall of shame?
Do you agree that every Russian who places flowers onto the graves of fallen russian soldiers in WW2 is secretly a terrorist who wants to rebuild gulags?

I have a hunch that you don't. I have a hunch that when it comes to Russia, you have no problem separating the Russian crimes against humanity from Russian war of self-defence against Germany.

I'm just curious, how can you not comprehend the same thing from the point of view of other countries? It's not difficult at all. What if USA and the West didn't enter the war at all, Russia received no lend-lease aid from the US and the full might of the German war machine was directed against Russia from day 1. Russia would be hopelessly outgunned and outmatched.

What would Russians do, if they saw Germany advancing day by day, killing and torturing Russians on their way to the East.
What would Russia do, if China declared war against Germany and started pushing in from the East, and rush towards the Germans, to wipe them out. Would some Russians greet the Chinese as liberators? Would some Russians join the Chinese army and fight alongside China?
If you have a shred of honesty, you would say yes.
The exact same thing happened in all the countries russia invaded before the german invasion.
Many people who wanted their own country saw the enemy of their enemy as their ally...a useful tool.

- You do understand USSR, Stalin and so on is no more? Why so much hate towards Soviets when they all died by now?
Why this SS Galicia scumbag got so much "attention" from the Poland, Israel etc?

- I keep telling you who I call pro- NAZI in Ukraine. If you want to know about NAZIs you have a computer in front of you.

- Just basic slogans soldiers of UPA used to say back in a day " Put Russians on the knifes" " Hang Russians" ( Moskolyaku na gilyaku, Moskolyaku na nozhi) etc

- I think you are delusional to compare murderers and SS soldiers with fighters for the freedom. You dont understand the basics here. IDK how your Estonian SS vets did during WW2, but Ukranian have their hands in blood upuntill shoulder. Not only of Ukrainians who fought with allis against Hitler, but also Polaks, Jewish...etc. I advice you to read "Babij Yar" as well.
If killing civilians in thousands and fighting on the side of evil equals fighting for your freedom, than I assume you are supporting HAMAS. Cause thats pretty much what they are doing right?

- I agree that Stalin did a lot of bad things. So did Soviets.
Give me terrorist activity by any Soviet General and ill give you my answer. About flowers and fallen Russian soldiers comment was just retarded.

- Example about Germany and China is correct. Let me ask you, did you have to volunteer to join SS?

IDK if you remember( probably not, since you keep asking me the same stupid question), but about a year ago or so I told you, I get it with Estonia. I saw Estonian writer/journalist on Russian TV where he screamed his heart out against Russian propagandists about the tragedy of his people and I believed him. Answer me, did your Estonian SS battalions were EVER caught doing such a crazy, horrific and evil things what Ukranian Galicias and UPA were doing? if Not , then yes, I agree that they were in a survival mode and did everything to safe their life giving the circumstances. So if Soviets were attack by China as well and there were no US help, deff people would have to survive and live with it, and is some would volunteer to fight Germans and other fight Chinese, thats fine too...but it must be without committing ugly executions of women, elderly and kids like it was done by UA SS. I mean why should I even explain this. Thats the line for me.

But then again, if you were in survival mode and didn't want to do it, but had no choice, why celebrating it years later? Maybe, just maybe this fight for a freedom slogan was one of the ways to clean your reputation before others, who didn't serve an enemy. Im not stating that it is the fact, just throwing it out there as an idea.