[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Send me a postcard and don't end up face down, ass up with a dick in your butt!

Good luck!

Nightmare fuel.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

They all agreed hat west, by calling UA to NATO in 2008? And since then always tried to fuck with Russia, because they knew what Ukraine means to them.

Ukraine wanted to increase its exports by benefiting from free trade with the EU while attracting desirable external investments, as well as establishing closer ties with a sociopolitical entity to which many Ukrainians feel strong cultural connection. Western Ukraine is found to be generally more enthusiastic about EU membership than Eastern Ukraine, no surprise there and according to a 2012 poll, 46% of Ukrainians supported the view that Ukraine should become an EU member while 33%t rejected the idea.

Even in the Donbas region and Crimea, people aged 18–29 did not differ from their peers who lived in other parts of the country. Data showed that 51% of the youth in the eastern part of the country were in favour of Ukraine’s membership in the EU, while only 22% were against.

Besides, the attitude toward EU membership depended on the level of people’s awareness.

The poll showed that 52% of Ukrainians who were well-informed about the talks between Ukraine and EU on the Association Agreement were in favour of membership.

Pro-European views increased after EuroMaidan and the first Russian invasion. The number of supporters of EU integration increased from 47% in December 2013 to 57% in December 2014, while the share of proponents of integration into the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan dropped from 26% to 16% in the same period.

These sentiments remained unchanged despite the total overhaul of the government (president and parliament) in 2019. After one year of presidency of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, 48% of Ukrainians believed that integration with the EU was the best policy option for Ukraine, while support for the Customs Union with Russia fell to 11%.

The number of supporters of EU integration increased from 47% in December 2013 to 57% in December 2014, while the share of proponents of integration into the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan dropped from 26% to 16% in the same period.

Bet Putin didn't like that and had to come up with a plan to stop the Ukrainian sentiment as Ukraine is, like said before, economic important for russia esp. the Donbass, mining, black sea ports, grain shipping routes etc. plus he saw his great empire dream starting to crumble down even more.

The whole Ukr is ruled by Nazis propaganda is used by Russia to put his people behind this whole invasion. The educated didn't fall for that and a lot fled the country so he mostly sent in (even forced) by mobilisation, ethnic minority groups who are poor and less educated.

Chechens and Buryats were responsible for the war crimes in Bucha.

Local authorities in Buryatia came to people’s homes at night. They took people from their beds. Some weren’t even given draft notices. They were just dragged onto buses and signed up at military bases. They took everyone, even [in contravention of the rules] people with five children, several men from the same family.

In Dagestan, there are endangered ethnic groups. Some are super small communities with populations of about 13,000, and they were still drafted. We see this as an ethnic genocide.

In Sakha Republic, there are small communities who live in rural villages. If you need medical treatment, you need to call a helicopter. They would never receive help because they are too far away. But with this mobilisation, the government flew to these villages to get men drafted.

People see this as an injustice — that Putin is using ethnic minorities to fight in Ukraine for his imperial ambitions.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...ght-in-ukraine

That doesn't mean there were no neo nazis in Azov but to label a whole Country is ridiculous. Even Germany faced neo nazis in their Bundeswehr and dealt with that just like Ukraine dealt with the neo nazis in Azov.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by RaNer ↗

Man, there were so many videos of what was happening in that time span 2008-2014, they literally would put Russians on fire and piss on them, tie them up on poles and beat them senseless. And it would be removed from YT and other media. Same as those Ukraine "sieg heil" schools.

He can't read the reply but just wanted to share.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusa...cide_in_Donbas

Bet some of these cases did happen and i bet some were staged and used as propaganda. Mirror propaganda it's called and proven effective in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by RaNer ↗

Man, there were so many videos of what was happening in that time span 2008-2014, they literally would put Russians on fire and piss on them, tie them up on poles and beat them senseless. And it would be removed from YT and other media. Same as those Ukraine "sieg heil" schools.

It's just impossible to have real talk with them and that's it. Just plain ignorance.

Oh, well, give me a few dozen videos then. This is the right forum for gore and death videos, so ... bring it.

Add in the video description, add locations, dates and some evidence that what's on the video really takes place in Ukraine and is directed against the ruz.

Oh, you don't have those videos because it was removed from YT? Well, arent we lucky that Russia has its own media channels and servers that are handled by Russia. Surely, they would not remove any of the "so many videos" and you can share them here. Im sure Chris wont remove them either.

I did a quick search on russia - ukraine - nazis and found mostly russians killing random people and 1 generic youth death cult that killed everyone.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Ukraine wanted to increase its exports by benefiting from free trade with the EU while attracting desirable external investments, as well as establishing closer ties with a sociopolitical entity to which many Ukrainians feel strong cultural connection. Western Ukraine is found to be generally more enthusiastic about EU membership than Eastern Ukraine, no surprise there and according to a 2012 poll, 46% of Ukrainians supported the view that Ukraine should become an EU member while 33%t rejected the idea.

Even in the Donbas region and Crimea, people aged 18–29 did not differ from their peers who lived in other parts of the country. Data showed that 51% of the youth in the eastern part of the country were in favour of Ukraine’s membership in the EU, while only 22% were against.

Besides, the attitude toward EU membership depended on the level of people’s awareness.

The poll showed that 52% of Ukrainians who were well-informed about the talks between Ukraine and EU on the Association Agreement were in favour of membership.

Pro-European views increased after EuroMaidan and the first Russian invasion. The number of supporters of EU integration increased from 47% in December 2013 to 57% in December 2014, while the share of proponents of integration into the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan dropped from 26% to 16% in the same period.

These sentiments remained unchanged despite the total overhaul of the government (president and parliament) in 2019. After one year of presidency of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, 48% of Ukrainians believed that integration with the EU was the best policy option for Ukraine, while support for the Customs Union with Russia fell to 11%.

The number of supporters of EU integration increased from 47% in December 2013 to 57% in December 2014, while the share of proponents of integration into the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan dropped from 26% to 16% in the same period.

Bet Putin didn't like that and had to come up with a plan to stop the Ukrainian sentiment as Ukraine is, like said before, economic important for russia esp. the Donbass, mining, black sea ports, grain shipping routes etc. plus he saw his great empire dream starting to crumble down even more.

The whole Ukr is ruled by Nazis propaganda is used by Russia to put his people behind this whole invasion. The educated didn't fall for that and a lot fled the country so he mostly sent in (even forced) by mobilisation, ethnic minority groups who are poor and less educated.

Chechens and Buryats were responsible for the war crimes in Bucha.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...ght-in-ukraine

That doesn't mean there were no neo nazis in Azov but to label a whole Country is ridiculous. Even Germany faced neo nazis in their Bundeswehr and dealt with that just like Ukraine dealt with the neo nazis in Azov.

First I ve never called UA Nazi country, it’s stupid. ( if that comment was adressed to me), I was always saying that in 2014 pro-Nazi took power. Tyagnibok with Svoboda, and other parties of that nature, for whom NAZI SS fellas are heroes. Like that old dude who ashamed the whole Canadian parliament, because of whom speaker resigned, because of whom Polaks and Jews communities raged. Well believe it or not, while west reacted the way it should, in Ukraine he considered a hero ( not for every Ukrnian, but for those who took power, and that’s important, because that’s how they going to teach their kids).

Also idk why you bring up the numbers..it’s the steps made by the west that triggered Russia. And not desire of population of UA. We are talking about geopolitics, and not exactly what people want. People or Russia didn’t want this war, people of Ukraine ( majority was working) didn’t want that Maidn to happen, Americans didn’t want fight those wars overseas and so on.

[Guns N' Coffee]

This article concerns Estonia, but shows to what lengths Russia will go to stage things to fit its own narrative.

https://news.postimees.ee/4078093/se...-nazi-labeling


Security agency: Russia sent own right-wing extremists to Estonia for Nazi labeling

Sticking labels on Estonia is typical for Russian propaganda and there have been cases where right-wing extremists have been brought in from Russia to display Nazi symbols during Estonian events, Estonia's Internal Security Service (ISS) says in its yearbook for 2016 published on Wednesday.

"We have noticed a tendency to delegate right-wing extremists from Russia to Estonian events in order to publicly display Nazi symbols, which leads to media coverage of this 'social problem' in Estonia. One of the best examples from last year is the attempted provocation where the St. Petersburg skinhead Aleksei Maksimov was sent to Estonia to be captured on film as a 'local Nazi activist'," the yearbook says.

Maksimov crossed the border dressed in clothes that covered his arms and legs, but when going to the memorial event for the fallen in the Battle for the Tannenberg Line, he changed into clothes that revealed his neo-Nazi tattoos, including a swastika.

"The Kremlin-controlled media was naturally eager to pick this up as an example of events in Estonia. As they had to send in an activist from St. Petersburg to play the role, it showed that the label was difficult to stick and the methods suggest desperation," ISS says.

The Kremlin is attempting to make greater use of the internet and social media in its anti-West, including anti-Estonian, influence operations. This is to save costs rather than to keep up with the times or pioneer novel opportunities. Remarkably, the Kremlin's anti-Estonian influence projects had financial problems in 2016, it stands in the yearbook.


"Russian media projects are being created to influence the Russian-speaking people in foreign countries and also the policies of their countries of residence. Although the desired result is often not achieved, such attempts are not being waived but are rather becoming more consolidated. The activities of the Baltnews propaganda portals, which are targeted at Russian-speaking communities in the Baltic states and have been mentioned in earlier annual reviews of ISS, are coordinated by several employees of Rossiya Segodnya," ISS says.

These coordinators also regularly communicate recommended topics to the offices of Sputnik, the official sub-division of Rossiya Segodnya. Messages of Russia distributed through the entire network are coordinated in this way. Rossiya Segodnya also obliges the Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian Baltnews portals to cooperate with the Sputnik offices and to support and repeat the news they publish.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

This article concerns Estonia, but shows to what lengths Russia will go to stage things to fit its own narrative.

https://news.postimees.ee/4078093/se...-nazi-labeling


Security agency: Russia sent own right-wing extremists to Estonia for Nazi labeling

Sticking labels on Estonia is typical for Russian propaganda and there have been cases where right-wing extremists have been brought in from Russia to display Nazi symbols during Estonian events, Estonia's Internal Security Service (ISS) says in its yearbook for 2016 published on Wednesday.

"We have noticed a tendency to delegate right-wing extremists from Russia to Estonian events in order to publicly display Nazi symbols, which leads to media coverage of this 'social problem' in Estonia. One of the best examples from last year is the attempted provocation where the St. Petersburg skinhead Aleksei Maksimov was sent to Estonia to be captured on film as a 'local Nazi activist'," the yearbook says.

Maksimov crossed the border dressed in clothes that covered his arms and legs, but when going to the memorial event for the fallen in the Battle for the Tannenberg Line, he changed into clothes that revealed his neo-Nazi tattoos, including a swastika.

"The Kremlin-controlled media was naturally eager to pick this up as an example of events in Estonia. As they had to send in an activist from St. Petersburg to play the role, it showed that the label was difficult to stick and the methods suggest desperation," ISS says.

The Kremlin is attempting to make greater use of the internet and social media in its anti-West, including anti-Estonian, influence operations. This is to save costs rather than to keep up with the times or pioneer novel opportunities. Remarkably, the Kremlin's anti-Estonian influence projects had financial problems in 2016, it stands in the yearbook.


"Russian media projects are being created to influence the Russian-speaking people in foreign countries and also the policies of their countries of residence. Although the desired result is often not achieved, such attempts are not being waived but are rather becoming more consolidated. The activities of the Baltnews propaganda portals, which are targeted at Russian-speaking communities in the Baltic states and have been mentioned in earlier annual reviews of ISS, are coordinated by several employees of Rossiya Segodnya," ISS says.

These coordinators also regularly communicate recommended topics to the offices of Sputnik, the official sub-division of Rossiya Segodnya. Messages of Russia distributed through the entire network are coordinated in this way. Rossiya Segodnya also obliges the Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian Baltnews portals to cooperate with the Sputnik offices and to support and repeat the news they publish.

Yup, thats the kidn of shit russia does. Years ago, there was a mass protest here by "russians". Noone was surprised when it turned out that Russia bussed in those "protesters" from Moscow. Same shit happened in Donbass and happens during Putins speeches. Russia brings its own audience to media events.

[Guns N' Coffee]

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I know you've already edited this version of your post. Wise decision but I already had you quoted. You seem upset. You might want to put the brakes on calling people cunts in here.

If the footage anyone posts hasn't been posted yet and happened after February 2022, it can be posted anytime. If you believe it to be a repost, find the OP and post the link and it will be removed.

But lol at trying to call anyone else out on posting old footage. At least its a video of exactly what and who he says it is and not recycled.

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Hey WM, Sorry for leaving a FO yesterday for your reply to king clown drag, as I thought that it was a post from him himself & not a screen shot & upon reviewing todays stuff found the mistake so here's an olive leaf.

[Roosta]

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Originally Posted by ljubodrag View Post
My proof is that I've seen that exact video last year. What did you say to me a few days ago? If something seems too good to be true, read the comments? Or something like that? Well, lassie, go read the comments.

Kellyhound.
And you're right, that is Lassie, with capital L.
it's posted all over, dozens and dozens of social media accounts, and i stopped reading at comment 700 or so and not 1 mentioning it being a repost so unless you can find it quit spilling b.s. and the annoying lassie thing. Happened in Pisky people seem to conclude.

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