[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Nope, you just need to be able to draw some basic parallels.
Both countries had führers, ruling with an iron fist, killing anyone in their way.
Both countries fought for an ideology that put their own people first and everyone else deserved to die or be exiled.
Both countries imposed their own language and culture onto the occupied countries.
Both countries had insane amount of riddiculous propaganda.
And so on.
You look at everything from the point of view of the invader. Ofc you dont see ruzzians as the evil shitfucks they were during the second world war.
For an independent country, it doesn't matter if you are being invaded by a country X, or country Y. What matters is that you are being invaded. It's not difficult...or is it? It's a serious question. Can you put yourself into a position of a someone being invaded by 2 shitfucks and having to choose between them?

The shit that happened to my country, happened to all the others as well.
They all wanted to be independent, and they all got stuck between to dick'fucking'dators.
Again, not difficult.


How fucking hard is it to read a god damn post? It's not a book. It's only a few lines of text. Make the effort. You are an adult.
I have said it many times now, and I can't believe I have to say it again, they fought for themselves. Do you understand that? People have self-interest in mind. Those who were occupied by the ruzzians fought on the German side for self-interest, not for the German interests. If all the countries occupied by the ruzzians had the power to snap their fingers and make both Germans and russians disappear from the face of the earth, they would have done so. But they couldn't. The only options were to be occupied and repressed by the russians, or to be occupied by the Germans.
Russian occupation was already known to be brutal, German occupation was an unknown. Germans, in the early days, seemed way more civilized than the rus, so, it was a bet worth taking.
You are looking at all of this through the lense of hindsight and massive amounts of russian propaganda.



First, I wasn't even born then.
Secondly, the people from the occupied territories who fought on the German side against the russians did what they had to, to get rid of the russians. Russians committed genocide, just like Hitler did.
It was a choice of going along with whatever the germans demand, or be a victim of a genocide yourself.
And for the last fucking time, noone in the occupied territories did anything in the name of the Hitler.
They all fought for their own independence.
There are many documented cases where men from the same families fought on different sides. One brother fighting on the German side, another on the russian side, both taking a gamble on which side is less evil.

Jawohl mein Fuhrer !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Well UA remembering USSR. And Polaks and Jews they didn’t forget anything. Go to Warsaw with Red and black flag of UPA , see what happens.

That's funny coming from you, a Ukraine person with a russian flag avatar.

[iARTEMx]

Originally Posted by iARTEMx ↗

May I make a big DOT?
ruzzia is the same (maybe worst) than Hitler's Germany.
Don't forget that ruzzia helps hitler to develop all weapons and other staff, don't forget their alliance before Poland innvasion, don't forget all their crimes. Since ruzzians are still the same, as 80 years ago, I think that all world will consider them as Nazi, I'm sorry.
At least in 80 years Germany has changed, ruzzia no.
ruzzia did not saying "Never repeat the same", they say "We can releat it" (Можем повторить). So stop defending them!
ruzzia is the worst we have in this world not, even worst than muslims or orher shit in this world.

Hope you all understand

[duntez]

Originally Posted by iARTEMx ↗

May I make a big DOT?
ruzzia is the same (maybe worst) than Hitler's Germany.
Don't forget that ruzzia helps hitler to develop all weapons and other staff, don't forget their alliance before Poland innvasion, don't forget all their crimes. Since ruzzians are still the same, as 80 years ago, I think that all world will consider them as Nazi, I'm sorry.
At least in 80 years Germany has changed, ruzzia no.
ruzzia did not saying "Never repeat the same", they say "We can releat it" (Можем повторить). So stop defending them!

Germany learned their lesson and yes they have changed, unlike some UA groups like UPA and so on.

Before Soviets got into Poland, Germany and Slovakia did it first. And before that according to Munhen agreement Germany, England, Italy and Poland took some territory from Chechoslovakia, and so on. Politics played their games as always, Soviets tried to win time by making piece agreement with NAZI, didn’t help much as we all know. But regardless, Soviets had Vlasov army who was a traitor and he was executed, Russia also ( I think Putin said it) that Molotov/Rebentrop agreement was a mistake and didn’t represent the will of Soviet people. If I remember correctly he said to to Estonian journalist when she asked him if Russia could apologize or something.

In regards to this war, Russia can be occupiers, aggressor, invader or maybe even terrorist state at some point, but NAZI , I strongly disagree.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

No, they didnt fight for the nazis. You need to actually put yourself in their shoes, into the context of the world war. If they wanted to be with the nazis, then they would have asked to join Germany, to become part of their reich, before the war even began. But they didn't. Why? Because they didn't want to join the nazis.

Q: "If they didnt fight for the nazis, what did they fight for?"

A: "They fought for their independence from Russia"

Thats it. The enemy of my enemy is my ally( or a useful tool ).
Many in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania did the same thing. They joined the German army to fight against Russia. They didn't fight for Germany, they fought for their own independence...using germans as a tool. Out of the 2 evils, many saw Germans as the lesser evil. If you put yourself into their shoes, in that context, what would you do?

I would join the German army and fight the evil that I know and take a chance with the evil that I don't know.

An important difference here is also the fact that Russians never apologized for their crimes. They don't even recognize their crimes. Instead, they rewrote the history in which there was a happy "union" of neighboring countries, instead of an obvious invasion and genocide.


Russians..for sure. If the word nazi means anything at all, it applies to Russia at the moment.

This noob ruskie shil daz1972 is still too young for crayons & play doe to explain things to him so will have to sit in the corner for a bit till it gets a brain wave.

[iARTEMx]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Germany learned their lesson and yes they have changed, unlike some UA groups like UPA and so on.

Before Soviets got into Poland, Germany and Slovakia did it first. And before that according to Munhen agreement Germany, England, Italy and Poland took some territory from Chechoslovakia, and so on. Politics played their games as always, Soviets tried to win time by making piece agreement with NAZI, didn’t help much as we all know. But regardless, Soviets had Vlasov army who was a traitor and he was executed, Russia also ( I think Putin said it) that Molotov/Rebentrop agreement was a mistake and didn’t represent the will of Soviet people. If I remember correctly he said to to Estonian journalist when she asked him if Russia could apologize or something.

In regards to this war, Russia can be occupiers, aggressor, invader or maybe even terrorist state at some point, but NAZI , I strongly disagree.

You are free to have your version and believe in it. Nobody judge you.
You have your, I have mine.
At least 80% of the world are agreeing with me, except some babana eater or goatfuckers, so...

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

To compare Russians and NAZI you have to be retarded.
I told you once that I get it how it is with your country, but your memory is fucking short obviously. Glorify your SS folks as much as you want.
How fucking hard to understand what I said? You fought for them, you took your side. You executed Jewish, Soviet, Polish families in the name of Hitler or how you fucking say UKRAINE INDEPENDENCE or w/e ur fucking NAZI garbage. Period

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Duntez is having another meltdown !

[Roosta]

Duntez
Delusional "Whataboutism" shit from him all the fuckin time.
How about you fuck off again as all you bring to these pages is grief, your pro ruskie self righteous bullshit is non productive & a total waste of time on your part as at the end of the day, russia invaded Ukraine because of greed & are now committing acts of genocide so for you to wave the orc flag as an avatar when you are Ukraine is let alone going into who done what 50+ years ago.
Go get a life !

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Jawohl mein Fuhrer !

You say russians arent nazis yet you give praise to the führer. What are we supposed to think of this?

I wonder, what do you think a nazi even is?

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