[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Gotta admit his resting asshole face is pretty good.

Resting asshole face - damn, sounds like something foreigner would say

[iARTEMx]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Well UA remembering USSR. And Polaks and Jews they didn’t forget anything. Go to Warsaw with Red and black flag of UPA , see what happens.

Try to use SS Galicia symbols and march in Tel Aviv. And what happened in Canada recently? Not Russian but Polish and Jewish officials and communities raised their voice about standing ovation to NAZI UA veteran ofWW2

You cannot defend or even justify tyrant making examples of 100 yo things in the story, using that only when you need and just against the victim.
By this way you can defend everything, but this is wrong

[duntez]

Originally Posted by iARTEMx ↗

You cannot defend or even justify tyrant making examples of 100 yo things in the story, using that only when you need and just against the victim.
By this way you can defend everything, but this is wrong

If ur talking about Putin, I don’t defend him at all. Just stating simple facts how they always were and still are

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by daz1972 ↗

They are both dirty countries, but, Ukraine would be 1st to use gas chambers, seeing as they fought for the Nazi's

No, they didnt fight for the nazis. You need to actually put yourself in their shoes, into the context of the world war. If they wanted to be with the nazis, then they would have asked to join Germany, to become part of their reich, before the war even began. But they didn't. Why? Because they didn't want to join the nazis.

Q: "If they didnt fight for the nazis, what did they fight for?"

A: "They fought for their independence from Russia"

Thats it. The enemy of my enemy is my ally( or a useful tool ).
Many in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania did the same thing. They joined the German army to fight against Russia. They didn't fight for Germany, they fought for their own independence...using germans as a tool. Out of the 2 evils, many saw Germans as the lesser evil. If you put yourself into their shoes, in that context, what would you do?

I would join the German army and fight the evil that I know and take a chance with the evil that I don't know.

An important difference here is also the fact that Russians never apologized for their crimes. They don't even recognize their crimes. Instead, they rewrote the history in which there was a happy "union" of neighboring countries, instead of an obvious invasion and genocide.

You decide who the real Nazi's are?

Russians..for sure. If the word nazi means anything at all, it applies to Russia at the moment.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

No, they didnt fight for the nazis. You need to actually put yourself in their shoes, into the context of the world war. If they wanted to be with the nazis, then they would have asked to join Germany, to become part of their reich, before the war even began. But they didn't. Why? Because they didn't want to join the nazis.

Q: "If they didnt fight for the nazis, what did they fight for?"

A: "They fought for their independence from Russia"

Thats it. The enemy of my enemy is my ally( or a useful tool ).
Many in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania did the same thing. They joined the German army to fight against Russia. They didn't fight for Germany, they fought for their own independence...using germans as a tool. Out of the 2 evils, many saw Germans as the lesser evil. If you put yourself into their shoes, in that context, what would you do?

I would join the German army and fight the evil that I know and take a chance with the evil that I don't know.

An important difference here is also the fact that Russians never apologized for their crimes. They don't even recognize their crimes. Instead, they rewrote the history in which there was a happy "union" of neighboring countries, instead of an obvious invasion and genocide.


Russians..for sure. If the word nazi means anything at all, it applies to Russia at the moment.

Yeah idc what were the reasons for you to fight for NAZI…you are NAZI in my eyes and millions all around. They pledged and gave an oath to Hitler and that’s what matters. After all millions of Ukrainians fought against Hitler and they def knew who fought for what.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Yeah idc what were the reasons for you to fight for NAZI…you are NAZI in my eyes

In that case you are stupid and lack the basic ability to empathize with people.
Context and reasons do matter. Saying that it doesnt is just stupid, and no adult should say something that lame.

Also, read my god damn fucking post.

I made it clear that they didn't fight for nazism or for Germany. They fought for independence, using germans as a tool...just like people from other occupied countries did.
I just don't get it, why is it so hard to understand?
Do you really have no ability to empathize? Can you really not look beyond the russian propaganda?


Also, do you consider the ruzzian soldiers in Ukraine, fighting for their führer to be nazis?

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

In that case you are stupid and lack the basic ability to empathize with people.
Context and reasons do matter. Saying that it doesnt is just stupid, and no adult should say something that lame.

Also, read my god damn fucking post.

I made it clear that they didn't fight for nazism or for Germany. They fought for independence, using germans as a tool...just like people from other occupied countries did.
I just don't get it, why is it so hard to understand?
Do you really have no ability to empathize? Can you really not look beyond the russian propaganda?


Also, do you consider the ruzzian soldiers in Ukraine, fighting for their führer to be nazis?

To compare Russians and NAZI you have to be retarded.
I told you once that I get it how it is with your country, but your memory is fucking short obviously. Glorify your SS folks as much as you want.
How fucking hard to understand what I said? You fought for them, you took your side. You executed Jewish, Soviet, Polish families in the name of Hitler or how you fucking say UKRAINE INDEPENDENCE or w/e ur fucking NAZI garbage. Period

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

To compare Russians and NAZI you have to be retarded.
I told you once that I get it how it is with your country, but your memory is fucking short obviously.

To compare Russians and NAZI you have to be retarded.

Nope, you just need to be able to draw some basic parallels.
Both countries had führers, ruling with an iron fist, killing anyone in their way.
Both countries fought for an ideology that put their own people first and everyone else deserved to die or be exiled.
Both countries imposed their own language and culture onto the occupied countries.
Both countries had insane amount of riddiculous propaganda.
And so on.
You look at everything from the point of view of the invader. Ofc you dont see ruzzians as the evil shitfucks they were during the second world war.
For an independent country, it doesn't matter if you are being invaded by a country X, or country Y. What matters is that you are being invaded. It's not difficult...or is it? It's a serious question. Can you put yourself into a position of a someone being invaded by 2 shitfucks and having to choose between them?

I told you once that I get it how it is with your country, but your memory is fucking short obviously.

The shit that happened to my country, happened to all the others as well.
They all wanted to be independent, and they all got stuck between to dick'fucking'dators.
Again, not difficult.

How fucking hard to understand what I said? You fought for them, you took your side.

How fucking hard is it to read a god damn post? It's not a book. It's only a few lines of text. Make the effort. You are an adult.
I have said it many times now, and I can't believe I have to say it again, they fought for themselves. Do you understand that? People have self-interest in mind. Those who were occupied by the ruzzians fought on the German side for self-interest, not for the German interests. If all the countries occupied by the ruzzians had the power to snap their fingers and make both Germans and russians disappear from the face of the earth, they would have done so. But they couldn't. The only options were to be occupied and repressed by the russians, or to be occupied by the Germans.
Russian occupation was already known to be brutal, German occupation was an unknown. Germans, in the early days, seemed way more civilized than the rus, so, it was a bet worth taking.
You are looking at all of this through the lense of hindsight and massive amounts of russian propaganda.

You executed Jewish, Soviet, Polish families in the name of Hitler or how you fucking say UKRAINE INDEPENDENCE or w/e ur fucking NAZI garbage. Period

First, I wasn't even born then.
Secondly, the people from the occupied territories who fought on the German side against the russians did what they had to, to get rid of the russians. Russians committed genocide, just like Hitler did.
It was a choice of going along with whatever the germans demand, or be a victim of a genocide yourself.
And for the last fucking time, noone in the occupied territories did anything in the name of the Hitler.
They all fought for their own independence.
There are many documented cases where men from the same families fought on different sides. One brother fighting on the German side, another on the russian side, both taking a gamble on which side is less evil.

[Roosta]

I see duntez is making friends with the latest drop in pro ruskie shil. (Daz1972)
How about you both go fuck yourselves with your "Whataboutisms"

[iARTEMx]

May I make a big DOT?
ruzzia is the same (maybe worst) than Hitler's Germany.
Don't forget that ruzzia helps hitler to develop all weapons and other staff, don't forget their alliance before Poland innvasion, don't forget all their crimes. Since ruzzians are still the same, as 80 years ago, I think that all world will consider them as Nazi, I'm sorry.
At least in 80 years Germany has changed, ruzzia no.
ruzzia did not saying "Never repeat the same", they say "We can releat it" (Можем повторить). So stop defending them!
ruzzia is the worst we have in this world not, even worst than muslims or orher shit in this world.