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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

I agree.

In my opinion the "bridgeheads" in Kherson aren't bridgeheads, but a way to keep RU forces away from other areas, raise enough hell in that area to justify to RU leadership to keep a large amount of troops there, away from the Ukrainian main effort.

Clearly UA forces are attempting to bleed RU logistics, as per Kherson offensive last year, which was clearly a success, but this was leveraged by geography.
It's a third front opening and done by special forces. russians have to move their troops and equipment back and forth and that's bleeding them out logistic and mental wise. To pose a real threat they need a reliable bridge/pontoons/ferries for heavy equipment and serious daily tonnage of supplies.

It also is a relatively "short" distance to the occupied Crimea (83km).

Russians report a huge column of Ukrainians vehicles going to Kherson, maybe towards bridgehead? Parts of that are posted yet online.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

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Bucha, March 2022
Izium, September 2022
Kherson, February 2023
Zaporizhzhia, August 2023

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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

I agree.

In my opinion the "bridgeheads" in Kherson aren't bridgeheads, but a way to keep RU forces away from other areas, raise enough hell in that area to justify to RU leadership to keep a large amount of troops there, away from the Ukrainian main effort.

Clearly UA forces are attempting to bleed RU logistics, as per Kherson offensive last year, which was clearly a success, but this was leveraged by geography.
Yeah, that’s what I was getting at, but on the offensive side rather than defensive.

I can’t remember where I saw it now, but there was a gains report from a week or so back that showed the Ukrainians gaining only a couple hundred meters, but they were important high ground somewhere near Bakhmut and, even just looking at it in overhead map, showed that a new left-flank had been established for the Russians.

That’s bigger than just what tale 300m would tell. Creating new flanks are the kind of gains that change reports of “Meh, the line shifted 100m today.” to “Holy shit! They came out of nowhere and rolled up the enemies flank, and moved the center 100km today!

I’m not saying that’s what we’re going to see here in the near term, but that was kind of the story of Kherson, and it seems like a lot of things he Ukrainians’ line movements have been jockeying for a bigger gain later.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

I agree.

In my opinion the "bridgeheads" in Kherson aren't bridgeheads, but a way to keep RU forces away from other areas, raise enough hell in that area to justify to RU leadership to keep a large amount of troops there, away from the Ukrainian main effort.

Clearly UA forces are attempting to bleed RU logistics, as per Kherson offensive last year, which was clearly a success, but this was leveraged by geography.


Great post & you're on the money there as distraction is a good tool.

All good, that's what the water cooler is for. If that's how people choose to spend their time, that's on them. I've seen bits and pieces and my mention tab is ridiculous... but I ignore it.

For me, all the water cooler is, is a toxic cesspool of absurdity, repetitive bitching, moaning, trolling and popularity contests. The same cast of characters doing and saying the same boring shit, every day. I haven't participated much in there in months.
I'd participate but they only serve water & I'm a Jack Daniels type of guy.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

Yeah, that’s what I was getting at, but on the offensive side rather than defensive.

I can’t remember where I saw it now, but there was a gains report from a week or so back that showed the Ukrainians gaining only a couple hundred meters, but they were important high ground somewhere near Bakhmut and, even just looking at it in overhead map, showed that a new left-flank had been established for the Russians.

That’s bigger than just what tale 300m would tell. Creating new flanks are the kind of gains that change reports of “Meh, the line shifted 100m today.” to “Holy shit! They came out of nowhere and rolled up the enemies flank, and moved the center 100km today!

I’m not saying that’s what we’re going to see here in the near term, but that was kind of the story of Kherson, and it seems like a lot of things he Ukrainians’ line movements have been jockeying for a bigger gain later.
One thing I've noticed is that the ZSU (Ukrainian Army) is no longer just sending probes, shelling and then attacking the weakest settlements directly. They're shelling the hell out of high ground occupied by RU forces, taking it with mech infantry and then using the elevated height to more easily attack lower elevation RU areas and bleeding them out until they're especially vulnerable to mechanized assaults.

They're being more methodical and careful, this ain't the Kharkiv offensive anymore. Layered defensive fortifications are a mean bitch
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Pro russians were yelling at this pro Russian for acknowledging the recent river raid.. A seldom seen glimpse at a Lil bit of truth... I counted like 1 or 2 thanking him for being truthful out of the ~70 I skimmed over He berates them decently.
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Exchange rate 1 Dollar to Rubbish.
1 year ago $1→60 RU, now $1→100 RU means 66.6% less.
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=RUB
Following an emergency meeting, Russia's central bank has raised the interest rates to from 8.5% to 12% in an attempt to strengthen the collapsing ruble.
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Following an emergency meeting, Russia's central bank has raised the interest rates to from 8.5% to 12% in an attempt to strengthen the collapsing ruble.
The Bolshoi little swans are getting louder.

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I'm sure we've all seen these graphics of Russian drones, missiles and aircraft that Ukraine shoots down. Here is a peek at one for 14 August being made.
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Following an emergency meeting, Russia's central bank has raised the interest rates to from 8.5% to 12% in an attempt to strengthen the collapsing ruble.
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