[joos]

It amazes me how uninformed and ignorant people allow themselves to be when we have all the world's knowledge at our literal fingertips, but most people are just too fucking lazy to do 10 minutes of research before hopping on the internet and making stupid claims that are easily busted...or they hope nobody else will bother to look it up, and when they do and provide proof, they let their pride get in the way and make up some other shit to sidestep the admission of being willfully ignorant. It's fucking embarassing.

[Selous]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Zelensky is not even jewish, the western media made that up so that you could use your silly argument
"could a country really have nazis is they have a jewish president??"

Which is really weak anyway, but here you go:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-ukr...-wont-comment/

If he were jewish he would have said so, also he would have had a bar mitswa instead of a baptisement for his son.

Maybe you should read the article you posted.

"Mihael Tkach, the chairman of the United Jewish Community of Ukraine, told The Times of Israel that Zelenksy’s mother is Jewish and that the candidate identifies as such, although he is not observant and is married to a non-Jewish woman."

You fail to understand the relevance of him being of Jewish descent in the context of the Nazi slur. This explains why the Nazi tag is ridiculous:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...ish-holocaust/

[Faust]

Originally Posted by joos ↗

So either you are a retard, simply misinformed and passing on bad info without doing any prior research, or the Jews are covering for him (https://jewishquarterly.com/articles...dymyr-zelensky) and The Big Bad Media has been making this up since before the war because they knew there would be a war two whole years after publishing the articles: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/w...president.html
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/e...ssue-1.7142407
https://www.ajc.org/news/ukraine-ele...e-antisemitism
https://www.jta.org/2019/04/21/globa...re-both-jewish
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/24...ection-jewish/
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...ewish-comedian
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...423-story.html
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida...501-story.html

Again, the western media made it up, thanks for proving my point. He is a christian who baptised his son.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-ukr...-wont-comment/

"For his part, Zelensky declined to discuss his heritage with The Times of Israel. The candidate did not answer emails requesting a comment on his Jewishness, and his press office likewise refused to comment on his ethnicity or religion."


the guy never in his life, on public record said he was jewish. Never.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Selous ↗

There is certainly propaganda on both sides, the "Ghost of Kiev" is certainly a myth, but only the most deluded, brain washed imbecile could deny the bombing on the Theatre. To be clear, the Ukrainians have not said 1300 were killed. They said an unknown number of up to 1000 - 1200 civilians were sheltering in the basement at the time of the strike. Casualties remain unknown but 130 civilians have been rescued so far. It will take days for the actual casualty figure to be known.

you are deluded brain washed I am afraid.

https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-op...y/6491719.html

"Mariupol's city council said on Telegram that "according to initial information, there are no dead. But there is information about one person gravely wounded.""

[Selous]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

But your media won't even tell you that Ukraine was asking for nukes for about a year now, and they didn't want to sign any security agreements regarding Nato membership or recognising the independent regions as such.

That would be interesting if true. However, I suspect you've just made this up or read it on a toilet wall. Please post some sources to substantiate this claim. Don't bother if that is Russian State Media though, I prefer my reading to be non-fiction.

[Selous]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

you are the deluded brain washed imbecile I am afraid.

https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-op...y/6491719.html

"Mariupol's city council said on Telegram that "according to initial information, there are no dead. But there is information about one person gravely wounded.""

What a piss weak response you Russian shill. Seriously, can't you come up with something better than a four day old quote? Who cares what the initial information was thought to be? Since then, Mariupol City Council has issued UPDATES. You know, these happen when more information becomes available. Later on the 16 March The Council stated on Telegram:
"It is still impossible to estimate the scale of this horrific and inhumane act, because the city continues to shell residential areas," the council wrote on Telegram. "It is known that after the bombing, the central part of the Drama Theater was destroyed, and the entrance to the bomb shelter in the building was destroyed," it added.

Petro Andruishchenko, an adviser to the mayor of Mariupol, described the theater as the largest shelter "in number and size" in the city's center. "More than a thousand people were hiding there" but "the probability of getting there to dismantle the rubble is low due to constant shelling and bombing of the city," he said.

Maxim Kach, a Mariupol city government official, said the building was for civilians, with only women and young children hiding within it and not military personnel.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/16/e...ntl/index.html

Since then, due to fighting, there is no update on casualty numbers:

Ludmyla Denisova, the Ukrainian parliament's human rights commissioner, said: "According to our data, there are still more than 1,300 people in these basements, in this bomb shelter.

"We pray that they will all be alive, but so far there is no information about them."

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-f...alive-12570016

Nothing in the latest news contradicts my original post except I stated 1000-1200 persons were trapped. It is more than 1300.

[Selous]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

the guy never in his life, on public record said he was jewish. Never.

Wrong again. You're really not having a good day are you?

Zelensky said he grew up in an “ordinary Soviet Jewish family,”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...ish-holocaust/

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Selous ↗

That would be interesting if true. However, I suspect you've just made this up or read it on a toilet wall. Please post some sources to substantiate this claim. Don't bother if that is Russian State Media though, I prefer my reading to be non-fiction.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2713463...ussia-putin-2/

it was even in the New York Times, but you need the internet archive to see it

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Selous ↗

What a piss weak response you Russian shill. Seriously, can't you come up with something better than a four day old quote? Who cares what the initial information was thought to be? Since then, Mariupol City Council has issued UPDATES. You know, these happen when more information becomes available. Later on the 16 March The Council stated on Telegram:
"It is still impossible to estimate the scale of this horrific and inhumane act, because the city continues to shell residential areas," the council wrote on Telegram. "It is known that after the bombing, the central part of the Drama Theater was destroyed, and the entrance to the bomb shelter in the building was destroyed," it added.

Petro Andruishchenko, an adviser to the mayor of Mariupol, described the theater as the largest shelter "in number and size" in the city's center. "More than a thousand people were hiding there" but "the probability of getting there to dismantle the rubble is low due to constant shelling and bombing of the city," he said.

Maxim Kach, a Mariupol city government official, said the building was for civilians, with only women and young children hiding within it and not military personnel.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/16/e...ntl/index.html

Since then, due to fighting, there is no update on casualty numbers:

Ludmyla Denisova, the Ukrainian parliament's human rights commissioner, said: "According to our data, there are still more than 1,300 people in these basements, in this bomb shelter.

"We pray that they will all be alive, but so far there is no information about them."

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-f...alive-12570016

Nothing in the latest news contradicts my original post except I stated 1000-1200 persons were trapped. It is more than 1300.

I'd tell you to fuck off and go wank yourself over your Putin stick pics, but it sounds like you need no encouragement.

The fact remains:
after 4 days there was not been a single confirmed Mariupol theatre casualty

also I hate Putin. But I hate hitler and nazism more. Sorry if you are a white suprematist, I did not mean that personally so please don't be offended

[Faust]

If there was a single casualty then that would be on every single western newspaper, would you agree?

the most vicious war crime in modern history, the bombing of a civilian shelter housing 1300 innocent civilians and children, and they cannot afford to snap a single photo of a dead kid and or woman?