[GoreGram]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

I disagree. I get your point, but you are missing the obvious. Its an all out war. How do you have fair elections if you dont even have control over your territory. People fail to grasp the scale of this war and the consequences.
Up to a third of Ukrainian voting population is either occupied, dead or left the country. That's 30% of the voters. For reference, during second world war, Poland lost around 20% of its population.
US during civil war, lost 2.5%

On top of that, the infrastructure is destroyed and there is no guarantee of having power, running water etc. Without power, voting machines wont work and counting the votes is gonna be that much more difficult. There is also a lot more difficult to guarantee the fairness of voting. Those who want to interfere with voting can simply burn or blow up a truck carrying votes/voting machines.

And even worse, changing administration in the middle of the war would cause chaos and disagreements that a nation at war can't afford. If my country was at war, i wouldn't want to vote, unless there was some serious mismanagement being done. Id want to keep stability and focus on longer term goals.
As far as zelensky is concerned, he has done everything right so far. He has rallied most of the west against the ruzzian führer, he has secured a lot of foreign aid( from your point of view, that aid is a loss, from his point of view, thats a win ), he has stood up to the second largest army in the world for 3 years and still, frontlines are moving at a snails pace.

Want to run a dictatorship and cancel elections? No problem cause There's always a useful dummy making excuses.
As noted above

[Solarsonic]

Originally Posted by GoreGram ↗

Want to run a dictatorship and cancel elections? No problem cause There's always a useful dummy making excuses.
As noted above

Does Ukraine seem like a dictatorship to you? Seriously? Or are you just not informed on the topic at all.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Solarsonic ↗

Does Ukraine seem like a dictatorship to you? Seriously? Or are you just not informed on the topic at all.

I think he doesnt know what a dictatorship is. Politics is a tough topic for most and i guess he cant tell the difference between a western democracy and an all-powerful führer, like in ruzzia or n.korea.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by GoreGram ↗

Really?
How would you feel if Jimmy Kimmel was running our USA?
And "the" Ukraine canceled their last presidential elections.
Surely, it is not a dictatorship
Turban-wearing Ayatolahs are standing in awwwwe of this organ-playing fake president.
P.S. Google Zelensky playing Piano with Genitals.
Our tax money to Ukraine

I’m sure I’m wasting my time, but from one American to another: stop listening to far left/right politicians, media figures, or internet "experts" who disguise opinion as fact. You’re being manipulated on a grand scale, and it’s obvious it’s working.

The endless pathos rhetoric only clouds your judgment, creating a narrow perspective as you peacock into the conversation three years late, complaining about tax money and parroting the same tired, uninformed talking points with the maturity of Veruca Salt.

Educate yourself on the realities before speaking on issues you don’t fully understand, especially if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who does. It's fine to disagree, but you'll earn more credibility with a well-informed, thoughtful opposing view, if that's something you even give a shit about.

You’re pissed your tax money is going to a country whose history/politics you don’t understand or care about, just because we have our own issues. But our problems are deeply rooted and won't go away if we stop sending aid to Ukraine.

But I digress.

The elections were canceled because Ukraine's constitution bars elections during martial law, which was imposed in February 2022 due to the war. Martial law is extended every 90 days, so it’s not an indefinite suspension.

Additionally, as Scorpion mentioned, a significant portion of Ukraine’s population has been killed, seriously injured, or displaced by the war, making organizing an election extremely challenging. Crowded voting centers would be juicy targets for Russia. Why would a responsible leader encourage citizens to gather in large numbers in public places when Russia has been bombing schools, hospitals, and residential buildings?

Article 19 of the "Legal Regime of Martial Law" states "Under martial law, the following shall be prohibited: Amendment of the Constitution of Ukraine; Amendment of the Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea; holding elections of the President of Ukraine, as well as elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and bodies of local self-government."

Calling Zelensky a dictator over a canceled election is a baseless argument, and labeling him a "fake president" because of a comedy skit is equally absurd. He has proven himself more than capable of leading Ukraine through this war against an incredibly large and powerful army. The notion that an actor/comedian can’t lead is simply a coping mechanism for your misdirected anger.

Trump has a past filled with scandals far worse than pretending to play a piano with his cock, yet his supporters overlook his flaws because they see him as an outsider who speaks his mind and better represents normal Americans. So, why the double standard?

Putin has been in power for over 20 years, using ruthless tactics to maintain control. Manipulating Russia's constitution to ensure he could rule Russia until 2036 if he lives that long. He eliminates rivals and critics, and shows a blatant disregard for democracy both at home and abroad, where his power and influence reach many nations. If you need an example of what a dictator actually looks like, look no further.

Military aid to Ukraine isn’t a charitable gesture-it’s strategic, with conditions attached. If it stops, you still pay taxes for things that don't fix our problems. If Ukraine falls, Europe’s stability is at risk, threatening our allies. Putin has hinted at going after Poland next, which would force NATO to intervene, which means a much larger conflict for us whether we like it or not. With actual NATO boots on the ground in what likely would be the start of WWIII, your current tax concerns would be the least of your worries.

Trump once claimed he could end the war in 24 hours, but now he’s shifted to supporting aid in exchange for Ukraine’s resources, as Zelensky proposed. I’m sure that made his supporters' sphincters tighten a bit. Time will tell, but one thing’s for sure- they are two outsiders with political strategies that are constantly evolving.

Originally Posted by GoreGram ↗

There was no Ukraine prior to 1991
I should have said Russia cailiming back their old land

The power dynamics in this region have shifted countless times over centuries. Despite official independence, Ukraine didn’t just appear in 1991; its people have a history dating back to the 9th century. If Ukrainians want to preserve their independence, they have every right to defend it. The region’s complex history cannot be reduced to a simple narrative, no matter how convenient that might be.

[kellyhound]

russian Serviceman Maxim from the 5th separate motorized rifle brigade spoke about the losses in the unit in the Pokrovsky direction and how the wounded are sent to storm.

The soldier said that he was the group commander when the command sent his group to storm, after which everyone died except Maxim.

"Absolutely everyone died except me. I lay for another day in the forest belt under the branches, wounded, with a punctured lung, with a broken right arm, with multiple shrapnel wounds.

I lay there for a day from the 19th to the 20th. At 6 am I crawled into the dugout, went to my command, said that everyone was 200, I was 300, it was bad . To which the command answered me: sit and don't stick your head out. I had no water or food, I asked them for food, they said that was not possible."

The soldier stated that he had been lying in the dugout for 6 days, and because no one had tried to evacuate him, he had been forced to drink his own urine.

In the end, he evacuated himself. He walked to the settlement of Novoalexandrovka, wounded, with a broken arm and multiple wounds.

"On the 28th I went out and walked these three kilometers. There are so many of our guys lying there, torn apart, tortured, and no one cares ."

According to the soldier, the oldest man in his group was 61 years old, and the youngest was 21, and because of what he had experienced, he cannot sleep at all now.

[Silky]

I have to vent.

To preface.. I'm American, I have no sides, I love my Russian friends as much as my Ukrainian friends.

But I also need an answer/opinion to my question at the end.

So the backstory, I'm from America, graduated high school in 2008 in Minnesota, we had foreign exchange students from Russia, Ukraine (and a Bosnian whose family moved to USA who was fluent in just about every slavic language); the Ukrainian was the most pro Soviet/Russia/Anti-West person imaginable, even though he still lives in America, but we all took it as fun and jokes, we got our Soviet friend & when we were 21 we'd hit all the bars together, have a good time, world peace.

But then 2014 happened in Ukraine, I asked my Ukrainian friend, wtf is going on, whats your opinion on this? (Because he was pro Russia, but now his country was at war) and he told me he didn't know what to think, and that's the last time I heard from my friend, he deleted his Facebook but our Russian friend hates Putin, but admits there's no one else who can run the country, he wants to permanently immigrate to America but can't afford it.

Anyhow that's my rant, but my question is...

Why are Ukrainians wasting drones on wounded Russians? Every Russian death, that family gets a good compensation of money and are considered "heroes", yet my Russian friend said the average Russian doesn't even really remember that there's a war going on. They just want to Rush B in CS:GO.

Which gets to my question/opinion...

Why are the Ukrainians using drones to blow up wounded Russians? I understand the fury from the Ukrainians but every dead Russians family gets compensation & they're considered a hero of Russia, even if they died from a drone & their body is eaten by dogs.

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to not kill that wounded Russian? Let 100's of Russians go home without a leg/arm/penis so their mothers and bystanders see the reality of this war?

TL;DR ^ last paragraph

[Guns N' Coffee]

Originally Posted by Silky ↗

TL;DR ^ last paragraph

To deplete the money from Russia's State Banks

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Silky ↗

our Russian friend hates Putin, but admits there's no one else who can run the country,

Why are Ukrainians wasting drones on wounded Russians?

my Russian friend said the average Russian doesn't even really remember that there's a war going on. They just want to Rush B in CS:GO.

There are others that can run the country or could run the country unless they get imprisoned/killed/fall from a window/or outcasted from election by some new bs rules Putin implied.


Officially it's a war crime to attack wounded enemy soldiers but so is targetting Hospitals, resident buildings, schools etc.

Maybe they kill wounded enemy soldiers because of shock factor, even wounded you're not safe to return alive from war and that could trigger people not to enlist into the army.

Maybe a bit of revenge after the enemy targets schools, families, Hospitals and kidnapping their children and executing pow's.

Also a wounded soldier that returns to his unit can provide intelligence about the frontline situation and some soldiers after medical treatment do return to battle.

A grenade drop from a drone is cheap and using a short ranged FPV drone costs around $400.


I'm sure the majority of russian know there's a war (special operation) going on as russian polls and surveys shows up to 70 pct supports the war but that figure is probably boosted because the reports come from russia.

i think one out of 3 is more busy with surviving. Costs of living, inflation f.i. and fueled by state propaganda all is going well with the operation they're not worried much especially when no drones end up in their city.

russians work hard so they're probably tired at the end of the day and not in the mood for such news?

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Spiffyfable ↗

Say what you want but Ukraine is NOT going to win this fight

Can you honestly say it's been going well for Russia?

[William May]

Reported today that Trump surrendered to Putin. Hope the Europeans will step in and help them out. I thought Trump was a weasel. I didn't know he was a yellow-belly as well.