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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

Well, even one of your links there provide same answer. That it was meant to be used against people in Donbas region as Faust commented on it. There were many reports of their use in last two weeks.
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He's in parrot mode !
You and many here are in spam mode to useless comments or links that are just about opinions or simple denials of what is happening. That's not how you discuss these topics.

Like many people to this day believe that it was Russia who destroyed their own pipelines. When you are so brainwashed, you will believe anything they serve you.
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Because you see it on Youtube you gobble it up & want more as how could youtube be bullshitting !
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You and many here are in spam mode to useless comments or links that are just about opinions or simple denials of what is happening. That's not how you discuss these topics.

Like many people to this day believe that it was Russia who destroyed their own pipelines. When you are so brainwashed, you will believe anything they serve you.
Yes Ok, Mrs Putin !

P.S How's your 3 day invasion plan working out !
Thats a rhetorical question by the way !
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Because you see it on Youtube you gobble it up & want more as how could youtube be bullshitting !
I saw worse things from ua army, this aint suprising me. Some of them are really savage. And about YouTube, it's mostly pro-ukraine platform of western media, thats why its even more ironic.
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I saw worse things from ua army, this aint suprising me. Some of them are really savage. And about YouTube, it's mostly pro-ukraine platform of western media, thats why its even more ironic.
WOW, So intense is the Ruskie Bot !
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Lmao ok. Wailode where are you from?

Sorry you're salty for being called out on your parroting of obvious bullshit. Welcome to the war section!
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

When we are talking about dictators:

Zelensky
1. banned opposition parties
2. banned opposition media
3. banned religion, orthodox church
4. called people of donbas and luhansk, russian separatists / terrorist, but it was him, who sent troops to attack these territories even before invasion
5. banned historical russian movies, history, statues etc.
6. recently openly called and named his tenth regime as: Edelweiss, with was nazi unit
7. still hold people in his army who openly support bandera and nazis, shouting nazi slogans
8. didnt took responsibility for shelling donbass for 8 long years.
9. His army is using chemical weapons.
10. evidence for using schools, public places for weapons, endangering civilians

You dont get more clear dictator then this.
Is this ok ? So if western nations support dictators, its automatically normal. I see big double standarts here. Hypocrisy.
1) Ukraine is at war...and has been thoroughly infiltrated by the enemy agents and puppets. Banning political parties who have ties with the enemy would be my first thing to do as well. Fuck...in a state of war, I might even ban all opposition temporarily too. One thing that is needed during a war is decisiveness and that is one thing democracies lack during wars. A state of war is an exception to any normal functioning of the government. Most countries(including the United States/Russia etc have laws that restrict personal liberties during war ). For example the internment of Japanese immigrants in the United States during the second world war. You can start calling zelensky a dictator once the war is over and he has served his time...and still refuses to leave office, and sticks around using force. Right now...he is serving his time in the office as he was elected to do so.

2) Again...thats a correct thing to do, and it is not unique to Ukraine or Zelensky. Other countries have banned media linked to Russia too. This is a hybrid war and media has been weaponized. Armor protects you on the battlefield against bullets...and media restrictions protect you in cyberspace. Russia pours shit-tons of money into propaganda and it manifests itself in foreign media outlets. Just look at what it has done to some people in these forums. They have started to worship a brutal dictator and copy-paste anything they find online that matches the dictator's narrative.

3) No...he didn't ban religion. Muslims are fine to pray and worship their made up god. So are Christians, hindus etc. He banned Russian church...which again...reports to the Russian government. All religions are tools of the government. That's why countries create their own versions of religions.

4) Noone attacked anyone in the Donbas before Russia started the war in 2014. And after that...there were Russian paramilitaries in Donbas, pushing for war.

5) What movies/statues he banned...when and where. Give specific names of movies and conditions/reasons why and where they were banned.
PS: just for context....here in Estonia, we have been removing many of the soviet era monuments and statues as well. Its part of getting over the occupation legacy. We didnt destroy the statues...just moved them to an appropriate place. I have a hunch that if ukraine really did "ban statues" then they did the same thing.

6) Edelweiss - nice and common name. Without knowing anything else behind that name...its just that...a name.

7) Yes...holding people who shout nazi slogans and follow Bandera
are supposed to be kept in the army. It's the one and only place where they are actually useful. It's a win-win for everyone. If they die...the few nazis that Ukraine has...will die. If they don't die...then they fight with much higher motivation and courage than a conscript from a city who doesn't really want to fight. The more nazis fight on the front line...the fewer "regular people" need to fight. Russia does the same thing. It sends its worst people to the front line too. And not just prisoners. The regular russian army draws the worst nationalist as volunteers. Normal russians are apolitical and wouldn't go to the army even if ordered to...let alone as volunteers.

8) The shelling in the Donbas wasn't his responsibility. He wasn't in power at that time. Nor was it Ukraine's fault. It was a war...and both sides shelled each other. Do you really think that if Russias' little green men left and didnt start a war in Donbas...that Ukrainian army would have still shelled Donbas? For no reason. Just ...for fun?
Were there no armed rebel groups on the other end of those shells?

9) This remains total bulshit claim until someone provides any evidence. So far, only Russia has used prohibited weapons...like phosphorus bombs against cities....or other cluster bombs.

10) Whatever buildings they have used...were all evacuated before.
Kids don't go to school, stepping over piles of shells every day.
And...Russia uses civilian buildings the same way. Even here, in these forums, there have been videos of Russians camping next to schools...theaters etc.


"You dont get more clear dictator then this."

Oh...yes you do.
Dictators tend to serve a lifetime...or at least well beyond their 2 election periods. If you want to see what a dictator looks like....look at Russia or its allies...Belarus( with a total cunt dictator ), Nort Korea...even bigger Dick'tator over there...and Iran...even worse theocrat over there.
What a lovely bunch of people supporting Russia.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

You and many here are in spam mode to useless comments or links that are just about opinions or simple denials of what is happening. That's not how you discuss these topics.

Like many people to this day believe that it was Russia who destroyed their own pipelines. When you are so brainwashed, you will believe anything they serve you.
I don't believe Russia destroyed the pipeline. I think that was someone in the west.

I also don't think Zelensky is an angel, or many actors in the ZSU. But I know enough to know who is more in the wrong and it's not Ukraine. But no, you know it all, your majesty?

You keep coming back with strawman bullshit with your replies. Do you know what a strawman argument is? You're a living embodiment of it here.
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I see we're growing in numbers. Nice. And by we I mean "Ruskie Bots".
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