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overthere That's awesome. So good to see.
Rus or Ukr, just goes to show they are all human underneath the uniform. Talent, passion, culture. It's tragic that so many lose their lives

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“ if you think that UA will win this war… well I wouldn’t be so sure. Especially after the 14th of this month. I can say this since I’m not an official representative anymore. How do you think that president of Poland said that this upcoming months will be decisive for UA he said it just because of because he knew something”
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

Arestovich:
“ if you think that UA will win this war… well I wouldn’t be so sure. Especially after the 14th of this month. I can say this since I’m not an official representative anymore. How do you think that president of Poland said that this upcoming months will be decisive for UA he said it just because of because he knew something”
Do you have a link for the source of where you obtained this video? Thanks.

BTW... when he mentions the "14th of this month" that refers to the day the shelling in Dnipro occurred.

I also looked at the last several videos he's posted on his very popular YouTube channel (1.6 million subs) just to check for the overall tone of his messages. I don't see anything that lines up with what your video seems to be implying. Seems he still optimistic of Ukraine being able to win.

But of course, would love to see your source and try to analyze the "other side" of the whole thing.
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Do you have a link for the source of where you obtained this video? Thanks.

BTW... when he mentions the "14th of this month" that refers to the day the shelling in Dnipro occurred.

I also looked at the last several videos he's posted on his very popular YouTube channel (1.6 million subs) just to check for the overall tone of his messages. I don't see anything that lines up with what your video seems to be implying. Seems he still optimistic of Ukraine being able to win.

But of course, would love to see your source and try to analyze the "other side" of the whole thing.

He said that first, and than most likely he received a phone call from a damn SBU or something. You can’t say things like that in UA. Probably in any country that in state of war. He was probably mad because he got fired.
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You know, sometimes you read a comment or an article and while it has something you can agree on but overall opinion will be - a horse shit. Let me ask you over 40,000 LNR and DNR folks who fights against UA now are all Russians? Also since 2014 any proofs or RF army being involved prior 2022? Russian passports dosnt count because than RF can deff say that NATO if fighting vs Russia in UA now after we saw British, Spain, Polish etc passport of dead soldiers here.
Besides that, I’m not going to go back and forth with you about this, if you want to know what I think and how I feel you would have to go through all pages of discussion thread.
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s a well-known and proven historical fact that Stalin (and later leaders) practiced wide-spread ethnic resettlement in which large numbers of people from the Soviet slave states were forced to relocate to undesirable locations within the Russian interior, and their lands in the slave state given to Russians who were forced to immigrate there. The purpose of this population shuffling was specifically to seed pro-Russian sentiment within the slave states and cement Russia’s centralized control over them. This was an imperialist tactic going back well into the Tzarist era, and was openly continued throughout the Soviet era.

This is a well-proven historical FACT.

As is that Russia started sending military equipment, officially marked and documented into Donbas in 2014, and there are mountains of evidence of Russia sending uniniformed combatants and arms into Ukraine before that.

Russia put a bunch of Russians into eastern Ukraine in the 1940s so they could maintain an ethnic foothold there even in the event they lost Ukraine. Then, shortly after the USSR went bankrupt and was forced to release its slave states, it began sending insurgents into Donbas to create terrorism in the east. Then, in 2014, they began sending uniformed units into Donbas to fight with the Ukrainians, and called it an anti-Russian genocide when the Ukrainians had the gall to shoot back at them.
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Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s a well-known and proven historical fact that Stalin (and later leaders) practiced wide-spread ethnic resettlement in which large numbers of people from the Soviet slave states were forced to relocate to undesirable locations within the Russian interior, and their lands in the slave state given to Russians who were forced to immigrate there. The purpose of this population shuffling was specifically to seed pro-Russian sentiment within the slave states and cement Russia’s centralized control over them. This was an imperialist tactic going back well into the Tzarist era, and was openly continued throughout the Soviet era.

This is a well-proven historical FACT.

As is that Russia started sending military equipment, officially marked and documented into Donbas in 2014, and there are mountains of evidence of Russia sending uniniformed combatants and arms into Ukraine before that.

Russia put a bunch of Russians into eastern Ukraine in the 1940s so they could maintain an ethnic foothold there even in the event they lost Ukraine. Then, shortly after the USSR went bankrupt and was forced to release its slave states, it began sending insurgents into Donbas to create terrorism in the east. Then, in 2014, they began sending uniformed units into Donbas to fight with the Ukrainians, and called it an anti-Russian genocide when the Ukrainians had the gall to shoot back at them.
Yup, Pretty much nailed it.
Just ask, why are there so many Russians in countries where there shouldnt be that many Russians. Why arent there that many crimean Tatars in Crimea. Were they deported and driven away at some point by Russians.

Russia did everything that it could to start this war and take control over eastern Ukraine. It literally organized a military coup. Without Russian meddling, donbass would be at peace right now...and soon they could vote out the president they dont like because presidents do change in Ukraine, unlike in Russia where the dictator serves until his death and if you dont like him, you can go fuck yourself.
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An excellent William Spaniel video - possibly how Putin was misadvised at the start of the war.

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