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People should really say national socialism instead of Nazi.

It is true that many people in Ukraine (and Russia!) deny or approve of the holocaust, wear swastikas or have tattoos and or hold vigils for Nazi war criminals and try and make it into an official holiday, sure this is all true, BUT: that detracts from the nationalist socialism movement that allowed for years of civil war against its own citizens.

By saying “nazi” people will say “lol hitler is dead Putin is crazy also Zelensky is a Jew LOL”
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Yes, tell me now that story about santa.

You are clearly not aware about situation and polarization in poland. One thing is what Duda says, another one is what people of Poland think about him and what they share on social media and youtube, in tens of thousands. Thats what really matters. He have to be taken with grant of salt, not mentioning other warmongers who want to put even poor ua refugees back to war. There were many similar and crazy ideas from their side.

With news from Aristovich about inner state of chaotic and unorganized ua army. Narrative and false propaganda is crumbling even harder. Most of people in west are just out of picture and reality. Dont need to ask what background you are coming out of. Just by seeing results of that brainwashing anyone can clearly see propaganda in work. Most of people under this war hypnosis cant even acknowledge basic reality facts, like losing towns, ground or military in big scales.
Copium that poland will come and save ua in last hour is one of the warmongers wet dreams not taking belarus into account.
First, you are kinda retarded so I don't really know how to approach this. But there's no fucking western propaganda. We believe we are right in pushing the rest of the world around because most of the time the rest of the world is really fucking retarded and doing shit way worse than us. We had really bad shit happen here by our ancestors and we are learning from it, slowly. Our fucking leaders change so fucking often we run around like a chicken with it's head cut off, that is true. BUT, we really mean well and shit it's pretty cool to live here and if the stupid fucking countries we invaded would just think for a second their lives would be better. Just look at Germany, Japan and Italy. Lost the war but make good cars, ok some of them are shit to work on but they run good when new. Anyways, Russia is like a fake country and needs to give up and become more like us. Like Ukraine is doing. Which is why Ukraine is going to win, we finally figured out how to do the whole proxy thing right this time.
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Oh yeah, fucking Korea makes good cars now too!
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volodymyr volodya Zelensky has signed a decree prohibiting officials and law enforcement officers from taking vacations abroad.

Uh oh.
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- Minister of the Interior killed along with his team

- Arestovych resigning

- Minister of Defence under scrutiny

- Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine resigning

- Several heads of regional governments/governors resigning

Hmm...
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U.S. troops all the way from top on down have been restricted of movement by presidential order many times, sometimes restricted to their base of assignment. Yup, couldn’t even leave the gates. Many countries do things like that from time to time. Keep your starters primed and ready, and make sure you have plenty of backups just in case. NBD.

So, what’s your point? Both sides have already lost by simply playing the game, the Russians much more than the Ukraine. How is that, you ask? Russians may have a tenuous grip on certain areas of Ukraine real estate, but that property still remains within the boundaries of Ukraine unless their government relinquishes it. Additionally, RU troops and materiel have been fed into an industrial-sized sausage grinder for convenient packing and shipping back to Muther Russia. Also, RU is almost out of war materiel due to the pasting they have been getting during 300+ days of Putin’s “Three day military action”. Lastly, if you think the well of war materiel from the west will eventually dry up, that you couldn’t be more in error of. Even if the U.S. government officially stops shipments to Ukraine, the supply chain will simply take a tangential turn, money earmarked for production will come from a different pot, the weapons makers will still be sending stuff to the UKR troops along a bit more convoluted supply lines, and most people will be none the wiser about how they got there.

Perhaps both you and Wailode should log off, power down those Windows 95-spec boat anchors you’re trolling with, and go get drunk. I offered to help ya, but I suppose your work environment bosses aren’t letting you out of the building. See? Just like the scenarios I mentioned in paragraph 1.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

volodymyr volodya Zelensky has signed a decree prohibiting officials and law enforcement officers from taking vacations abroad.

Uh oh.
- Minister of the Interior killed along with his team

- Arestovych resigning

- Minister of Defence under scrutiny

- Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine resigning

- Several heads of regional governments/governors resigning

Hmm...
Look at you getting all excited. lol

It's wartime. Travel bans are not unheard of. Neither are people resigning or being dismissed. I don't even want to try to list all the reasons this could be happening because I do not have first hand information. But in a word, evolution. Like Putin changing RAF commanders of the armed forces twice so far.

You could also be correct. There could be some kind of shake up happening. Perhaps there are some that aren't in agreement with Zelenskyy's handling of the war or any other number of things. Hard to say without doing a deep dive on it. Will have to keep an eye on this.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV

https://www.politico.eu/article/defe...sia-zelenskyy/

“Since February 24, officials at all levels have been constantly warned through official and unofficial channels: focus on the war, help the victims, reduce bureaucracy and stop doing dubious business. Many of them have actually listened, but some, unfortunately, did not,” Arakhamia said in a Telegram statement. “If it doesn’t work in a civilized way, it will be done according to the laws of wartime. This applies both to recent purchases of generators and to fresh scandals in the ministry of defense.”
They want to fight corruption to meet EU standards.
If you google Ministers fired in Western countries for dubious contracts in Defense or in fact any other business you can find plenty of hits but it shows Ukraine is at least trying to do something about corruption which can't be said for other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrup...ceptions_Index
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It might look stupid but to think that anyone will easily outperform this guys on the battle field is quite stupid too IMO. Regardless how different parts of the world judge each other, truth is when shit comes to shovel it’s not funny anymore and you have a real enemy in front of you who can kill, just like you.
LOL, Outperform you say, ha, that's a good one coming from the pro ruskie 3 Day War novelist !
They won't get involved as they know by the way UAF are smashing the RAF that they would be doing their country a disservice.
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