[jkesil]

ruSSkies now officially confirmed that the shelling of civillian residential buildings are their new strategy. This will go down in history as the biggest attrocity. Just watch. Watching ruSSkies lose their future.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

That person who you are replying to is maybe right. It is impossible for humans to change their clothes beyond their own affiliation or country or army. This is impossible as people cannot do it. Before I had a German passport, if I tried any German clothes they just would not fit. it was not the size or anything, my body just straight up rejected it. Then I got the passport and the German clothes fit like a glove, but after that I had to throw away all my old clothes because I did just not have the nationality anymore

So I have to agree with the person you are quoting, the people in the video have to be 100% Russian without a doubt I can confirm this based on human nature and inability to wear other peoples’ clothes ..

Well, that’s another way to describe it I assume

[WonderMomma]

It's just a figure of speech... not something to be taken literal and broken down to fit your own perception. Perhaps I should have said "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink... unless it's Russian kool-aid".

Yeah, I'm not biting into that bullshit sandwich for a second.

I do promise one thing, however... when this is all said and done I won't even do the "nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo, what did I tell you" dance in your presence.

Until then...

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Curious what duntez would think if the guy was wearing Ukrainian uniform, blue armband and an Azov patch. I don't think he'd be saying the same things here.... just saying

I think Ukrainians probably found a legitimate war crime video and are releasing it piece by piece to watch the Russian channels go nuts screaming about it, saying it's fake, or they're actually Azov nazis blah blah. Then more comes out, it becomes arguably Russian, and the Russian propaganda machine (Kremlin or not) gets egg on its face and loses even more credibility. IMO.

[WonderMomma]

I would just like to reiterate Whiskey's point about the moving head in the video with the body being rolled down the hill... that person was probably still alive. After seeing the new short video of the guy alive that was dumped down the hill, this is probably why the head move. He/she was still alive.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Curious what duntez would think if the guy was wearing Ukrainian uniform, blue armband and an Azov patch. I don't think he'd be saying the same things here.... just saying

I think Ukrainians probably found a legitimate war crime video and are releasing it piece by piece to watch the Russian channels go nuts screaming about it, saying it's fake, or they're actually Azov nazis blah blah. Then more comes out, it becomes arguably Russian, and the Russian propaganda machine (Kremlin or not) gets egg on its face and loses even more credibility. IMO.

Remember clip when a pro Ukrainian guy poke an eye with a knife? I didn’t post it because I thought it was fake. Someone else did and I guess It turned out too be real.

But over all ur correct. I would deff lean more to the idea they were Ukrs. We see what we want to see. And I’m being honest here at least

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Remember clip when a pro Ukrainian guy poke an eye with a knife? I didn’t post it because I thought it was fake. Someone else did and I guess It turned out too be real.

But over all ur correct. I would deff lean more to the idea they were Ukrs. We see what we want to see. And I’m being honest here at least

It could be either side, those could be people from the morgue who died of natural causes. It is pointless for anyone at our pay grade to even worry about it. It's all psyops and it is working.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

This is a long one - William May I want my TEN 's

From the Romanian Quora user Catalina Olteanu
https://www.quora.com/profile/Catalin-Olteanu-8

Will the Russian military be able to sustain their forces in Ukraine during the winter? They are badly clothed and equipped even now in summer.

In the last century, the Shirts -(under) Pants - Food Factor decided all the wars.

Hitler suffered it in front of Moscow and Stalingrad. The Allies named Eisenhower supreme commander precisely because he was a specialist in logistics, that is Shirts - Pants - Food, and not because he was a great strategist.

From Monday to Friday, last week the 25 Russian battalions stuck in southern Ukraine consumed 2,000 tons of ammunition. Whoops.

At this moment, the supply situation of the troops in the Kherson area is dramatic. The only feasible option is the approximately 100 Mi-17 transport helicopters that the Russian Army still has in the area. After attacking the bases in Crimea, these helicopters must fly from Novorosiisk, i.e. 1000 km, given that their range of action is 800 km. Difficult problem…..

The Russian army received from the beginning of the war in Ukraine 10 million projectiles. After 200 days of fighting, the Russian army still has about 3 million hits - enough for another three months: September, October, and November…. Putin is desperately looking for projectiles in North Korea.

Let me explain.

How much ammunition does the Russian army consume?

Does Russia have enough ammunition stocks? Trolls say: DAAAA. They lie.

The warranty period of artillery ammunition, in storage, is 20 years. After that, it is taken out of storage and tested, batch by batch. Batches that meet the quality standards are sent to units for use in training. Non-conforming lots are sent for overhaul: disassembly and overhaul. After which they are sent to the front. So the 7 million artillery rounds that were used in the 200 days of the war in Ukraine were manufactured or re-manufactured since 2002.

Russian officers boasted through the military press that, between 2014 and 2017, 1.7 million artillery shots were thus remanufactured, that is, about 0.5 million/year.

At the Motovilikha plants and the Perm and Kazan powder mills, the value output was between 80 and 100 billion rubles, year after year. 20-30% were the industrial explosives. Between 2014 and 2021, Russia's maximum artillery production was (generously) 1.1 million/year.

70% of this ammunition was consumed.

The winter is coming baby!!!.

Each Battalion Tactical Group (GTB) of the Russian Army, located today in Ukraine, is equipped with 6 2S19 "Msta" self-propelled guns, caliber 152.4 mm. Standard daily consumption between 12 and 22 shots/piece: if you are attacking, consume more, if you are defending, consume less. Total standard consumption of the 6 pieces: 80 and 130 shots/day, that is 160 ... 260 parcels, so 6,640 ... 10,796 kg.

That means a minimum total (of all combined Army of South) of 1,106, a maximum of 1,799 KamAZ 5350 trucks.

For heavy artillery alone, a GTB consumes between 80 and 130 rounds/day. But in the composition of the tactical group, there is also a company of T-72 tanks (total, between 90 and 150 shots of 125 mm/day) and three companies of mechanized infantry on BMP-2 combat vehicles (total, between 3,000 and 5,000 shots of 30 mm/day). Altogether, between 3,170 and 5,280 shots in the standard assortment. 30/125/152.4mm per day, for each battalion!

Making an average of the effectiveness, for the 200 days of conflict so far, more on the offensive results in total consumption of 7 million artillery shots. So far! And this without the losses caused by Ukrainian artillery and drone fire, by the sabotage of the Secret Army, which so far blew up more than 50 battalion depots.

The employment of infantry has a small logistical footprint: 120 5.45mm cartridges, one grenade, and 1.6 kg of food per day, per man. In all, 6 tons – one truck per day, for 600 people.

What about the tanks?

T-72 tanks have an average normed ammunition consumption of 12 rounds of 125 mm/day. But the 2A26M2 gun that this tank is equipped with has a rated service life of 600 burst/cumulative hits at full load, or 840 hits at medium load. So in 50… 70 days of combat, the resource of the gun is exhausted: the tank must be sent to the overhaul center, where the turret and the stabilizer are dismantled, and the elastic link and the barrel are replaced. Complicated! Last year, the Russian industry was able to regenerate only 170 T-72 tanks . Considering the forces engaged in Ukraine, after 200 days of fighting, probably ¾ of the tanks have expired gun resources. You shoot, and if you're lucky, the cannon doesn't explode; but it is not known what happens next!

Russia attacked Ukraine without having even half of the necessary forces. To compensate for the insufficiency of the forces, Moscow resorted to the fire maneuver: the use of artillery and armor to "save" the lives of its soldiers. Each Tactical Group received 10 tanks, 6 self-propelled howitzers, 30 infantry fighting vehicles, and 6 BM-21 reactive artillery systems... the logistical footprint is enormous: 50 tons per day of offensive combat. Plus the fuel.

[Rfneimad]

This is why the Russian tanks have hot swappable turrets

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

This is why the Russian tanks have hot swappable turrets