[Faust]

https://www.rt.com/russia/564406-mas...investigation/

Here is some background information on the civilians being thrown into a grave video.
Personably I don’t know which side is sick enough to do this and film it. The Russians are stupid enough to film it, but only the Nazis are sick enough to do it IMO, so could be either side lol

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

https://www.rt.com/russia/564406-mas...investigation/

Here is some background information on the civilians being thrown into a grave video.
Personably I don’t know which side is sick enough to do this and film it. The Russians are stupid enough to film it, but only the Nazis are sick enough to do it IMO, so could be either side lol

New very short clip

Edit: Whoops wrong thread, moving to media thread

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

New very short clip

Russians. What say you now Duntez and Faust? (rhetorical)



EDIT: Whiskey you should post that in the media thread anyway and this one can be removed?

[Rikbikboo]

I used to watch interviews with Putin and at one stage I truly
Had a respect for the man given some of the things I heard him say. But having seen him order and then justify these months of attacks
And then send his own people to war. Some
Against their will under pain of jail I now think he is nothing more than just another dictator.

It seems evident to me that perhaps he plans to try to freeze Ukraine into submission through by taking away their ability to keep warm over the winter. Or plunge the whole world into a nuclear holocaust.

I so hope that someone close to him uses their service weapon and sticks on right into his dome.

They may be killed for doing so. But they’ll probably be hailed a hero in years to come.

I really thought this man was intelligent enough to realise that f he presses the buttons that’s it. But he seems to threaten that he doesn’t care. I don’t suppose it will matter to him. He’s prob alt going to be dead in another decade or so anyway. From his point of view he has nothing to lose.

What an asshole

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Russians. What say you now Duntez and Faust? (rhetorical)



EDIT: Whiskey you should post that in the media thread anyway and this one can be removed?

So you saying this video is a 100% proof they are Russians?

Idk for me not. I’m actually pissed by the fact that Ukrs found a Rus soldier cellphone with the video in it and don’t post it in full. This video is so short I couldn’t even hear if they spoke with accent or not. I guess let’s wait on part 3 - execution?

[WonderMomma]

I don't know Duntez. I'm sure the Ukrainians have the full video and aren't releasing it for investigative reasons. But what would you say if upon the release of the full video, it's indisputable that it is Russia perpetrating these killings? Will you condemn it? Or will you follow suit with Faust in arguing a reason to justify it somehow?

You don't have to answer... was asking more as a way to prepare you for what's to come and give you something to think about.

But I suppose I just need to finally resign myself to the fact that I can "lead a horse to water, but cannot make him drink".

[Rfneimad]

We would all be better off ignoring the psyops stuff from both sides.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

So you saying this video is a 100% proof they are Russians?

Idk for me not. I’m actually pissed by the fact that Ukrs found a Rus soldier cellphone with the video in it and don’t post it in full. This video is so short I couldn’t even hear if they spoke with accent or not. I guess let’s wait on part 3 - execution?

That person who you are replying to is maybe right. It is impossible for humans to change their clothes beyond their own affiliation or country or army. This is impossible as people cannot do it. Before I had a German passport, if I tried any German clothes they just would not fit. it was not the size or anything, my body just straight up rejected it. Then I got the passport and the German clothes fit like a glove, but after that I had to throw away all my old clothes because I did just not have the nationality anymore

So I have to agree with the person you are quoting, the people in the video have to be 100% Russian without a doubt I can confirm this based on human nature and inability to wear other peoples’ clothes ..

[Faust]

If the video is real in 24h it will be all over the news everywhere with the “twitter investigative persons” identifying the people in the video, also ‘intercepting’ a secret phonecall with the butcher saying “hi mom we murdered a few people, yup, Putins orders :) of course I filmed it!” And whatnot

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I don't know Duntez. I'm sure the Ukrainians have the full video and aren't releasing it for investigative reasons. But what would you say if upon the release of the full video, it's indisputable that it is Russia perpetrating these killings? Will you condemn it? Or will you follow suit with Faust in arguing a reason to justify it somehow?

You don't have to answer... was asking more as a way to prepare you for what's to come and give you something to think about.

But I suppose I just need to finally resign myself to the fact that I can "lead a horse to water, but cannot make him drink".

Will if I’m the horse lol then you took me out in the middle of nowhere and said - here, go find the water. Lol Make sense? Sorry in Russian it does lol
Think of this if we were in a court. Me wearing Your shirt… does it makes me you? No. Is is hard to get Russian or Ukrainian uniform? No.. can you see faces to identify them ? No
I will not have problems to accept that it is Russians committing a crime, I need a legit proof. For example next video will show their faces. If they match with the Rus soldiers they can find I’ll accept it.
When that video was posted where Rus cutting Ukr soldiers balls off I said - it’s a crime and this soldiers needs to be found and punished accordingly. Unless he raped a child or something :/
If those 2 People wore Ukr uniform I have a feeling you wouldn’t accept it as a proof this easy. Double standards!