[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Got a link to that?

Ukrainian presidential press secretary Serhii Nykyforov has denied the incorrect quoting by some media outlets of Volodymyr Zelensky's words about "preemptive strikes" against Russia if it decides to use nuclear weapons.

"The president spoke about the period before February 24. At that time, it was necessary to apply preventive measures to prevent Russia from starting a war. Let me remind you that the only measures that were discussed at that time were preemptive sanctions," Nykyforov said.

He noted that representatives of Ukrainian and foreign media outlets began to "hear nuclear strikes even where there are none." He said that Ukraine would never resort to such methods.

"Only the terrorist state Russia allows itself to blackmail the world with explosions at the ZNPP and hint in every way at the use of nuclear weapons. You will never hear such calls from Ukraine," Nykyforov wrote.

In his speech via video link at the Lowy Institute, President Volodymyr Zelensky said that NATO and the entire international community should review the procedure for responding to the possible use of nuclear weapons by Russia.

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Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372017

Hysteria in Russia after Zelensky’s words about NATO’s preventive strikes

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on NATO to respond to Russia’s nuclear threats by increasing pressure. Russia took this statement as a call for a nuclear strike on Russia.

It was informed by Censor.NЕТ referring to Ukrainian Truth.

When asked what NATO should do to deter Russia from using nuclear weapons, Zelensky said the following: "We already see that these people are capable of such terrible steps. What should NATO do? To make it impossible for Russia to use nuclear weapons. But what is important - I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24. Preemptive strikes so that they know what will happen to them if they use it. And not vice versa - to wait for nuclear strikes by Russia, and then say: "Oh yeah? Well, watch this". To reconsider the use of its pressure - this is what NATO should do, to reconsider the order of application".

After this statement, representatives of the Russian Federation began to say that Zelensky wants to unleash a nuclear war.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that the West was inciting a nuclear war and could destroy the planet with Zelensky's hands, and Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov called Zelensky's words a call "to start a world war with unpredictable terrible consequences."

Presidential spokesman Serhiy Nikiforov explained that Zelensky meant preventive sanctions that should have been applied before the full-scale invasion of Russia on February 24:

"The President was talking about the period before February 24. Then it was necessary to take preventive measures to deter Russia from unleashing an invasion. Let me remind you that the only measures that were discussed then were preemptive sanctions. Only the terrorist state Russia allows itself to blackmail the world with explosions at ZNPP and hint in every possible way at the use of nuclear weapons. You will never hear such calls from Ukraine".

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Yes?

“the coverage I’ve seen of Ukraine has been truly disappointing from all sides of the media spectrum, and ripe with disinformation”

But, don’t worry! You can discredit her opinion because she said 911 was an inside job so all is well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin

Btw she kept working for RT USA for about a year after making the statements. She is the real deal though, 9-11 or not

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

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Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372017

Yeah, figures. It makes no sense Zelensky would just "ask NATO" to nuke Russia. That's ridiculous on many levels, would only hurt Ukraine's support and only exists in the minds of highly conditioned Russians who read trash. Duntez you should probably re-evaluate what you've been reading, that stuff lends you no credibility when you toss that stuff around. This is why you get so much resistance in here. Not trying to be disrespectful.

I've noticed a sharp upturn in "ridiculousness" from pro-war Russian sources since the "regrouping" from Kharkiv.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Yeah, figures. It makes no sense Zelensky would just "ask NATO" to nuke Russia. That's ridiculous on many levels, would only hurt Ukraine's support and only exists in the minds of highly conditioned Russians who read trash. Duntez you should probably re-evaluate what you've been reading, that stuff lends you no credibility when you toss that stuff around. This is why you get so much resistance in here. Not trying to be disrespectful.

I've noticed a sharp upturn in "ridiculousness" from pro-war Russian sources since the "regrouping" from Kharkiv.

Lol from that garbage article:

“ "We already see that these people are capable of such terrible steps. What should NATO do? To make it impossible for Russia to use nuclear weapons. But what is important - I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24. Preemptive strikes so that they know what will happen to them if they use it. And not vice versa - to wait for nuclear strikes by Russia, and then say: "Oh yeah? Well, watch this". To reconsider the use of its pressure - this is what NATO should do, to reconsider the order of application". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372017”

Then they write:

“ Presidential spokesman Serhiy Nikiforov explained that Zelensky meant preventive sanctions that should have been applied before the full-scale invasion of Russia on February Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372017”

NATO…. Preventive sanctions??

If that article is meant to have any journalistic integrity then.. It is nothing more than garbage Zelensky-damage control

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Yeah, figures. It makes no sense Zelensky would just "ask NATO" to nuke Russia. That's ridiculous on many levels, would only hurt Ukraine's support and only exists in the minds of highly conditioned Russians who read trash. Duntez you should probably re-evaluate what you've been reading, that stuff lends you no credibility when you toss that stuff around. This is why you get so much resistance in here. Not trying to be disrespectful.

I've noticed a sharp upturn in "ridiculousness" from pro-war Russian sources since the "regrouping" from Kharkiv.

To be fair... Zelenskyy could have been much more clear I think. He gave them an easy thing to run with. From the little time I spent searching it doesn't look like he specifically said nukes or sanctions, but it was pretty clear he was referring to pre-24 Feb. So it's hard to say if

a) he really meant nukes and is now backpeddaling
or
b) he really did mean sanctions (prior to Russia actually invading) and just didn't communicate that clearly.




Here are multiple other sources for the story since someone has his panties in a twist. Again. Heads up everyone... Faust may spend the rest of the day picking these all apart and paragraphing everyone on how trash journalistically they are.

You've been warned.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/event/...sident-ukraine
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...e-calls-a79015
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...ikes-from-nato
https://ru.interfax.com.ua/news/general/863548.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Russia.html
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...rike-on-russia


This source is misquoting Zelenskyy in their headline but it might be right up Faust's alley. Par for the course.
https://www.opindia.com/2022/10/ukra...gainst-russia/

[ente17]

Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

Duntez is like a chinese finger trap, the more sense you make the more he resists. He will have to come to the light on his own. Faust just want's attention, he's like the pennywise of the forum.

True, but I've found the best way to deal with this; you scroll and see fausts user, you scroll right past his gibberish. Don't spend calories reading his keyboard gymnastics at all and go ahead to the next post.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by ente17 ↗

True, but I've found the best way to deal with this; you scroll and see fausts user, you scroll right past his gibberish. Don't spend calories reading his keyboard gymnastics at all and go ahead to the next post.

In another forum there was a user that kept pushing a globalist agenda. I later found out that this person his people were nearly wiped out by genocide, forced to live in reservations or some shit. Not only that, turns out that his direct family committed actual war crimes, invading sovereign nations even.


In such cases it was impossible for me to read his garbage anymore so I put him on an ignore list. Yet apparently he still kept reading and responding to my posts..

I am happy that this forum has no such users, at least none that I can see nor read any posts of

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Got a link to that?

I watched him say that. Yes he didn’t specifically say nuclear, but that just how the brain process information when “preemptive strike” words are used together following by - so Russia couldn’t use its nukes. It’s a nobrainer. After realizing what BS he just said presidents office started to back him up, probably after a good solid father like spank from US/NATO.
And it’s a horse shit, preemptive strike not in anyway equals to preemptive sanctions


And What kind of preemptive sanctions could potentially destroy Russians nuclear triad?

So you should probably reevaluate your opinion to what I read

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Lol from that garbage article:



Then they write:



NATO…. Preventive sanctions??

If that article is meant to have any journalistic integrity then.. It is nothing more than garbage Zelensky-damage control

It’s a fucking joke. preemptive sanctions ahahha

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

It’s a fucking joke. preemptive sanctions ahahha

By NATO nonetheless lol