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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

https://www.polygraph.info/a/russia-...e/6741663.html

Did you even read this one?

Citing an interview Volker gave to the Financial Times, RT wrote: “U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker stated that Russian authorities intend to ‘freeze’ the situation in Donbass.””

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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

https://www.polygraph.info/a/rt-fara...k/6741690.html

This one is about the department of justice application for broadcasting or something, the application is linked
https://efile.fara.gov/docs/6485-Reg...20171110-1.pdf

Entire article is bullshit because “ RT-America, the U.S. branch of the Russian international broadcasting conglomerate, registered as a foreign agent under FARA on November 10, fulfilling the demand from U.S. Department of Justice.”

It was registered as a foreign agent complying with the U.S. Department of Justice
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

https://www.polygraph.info/a/rt-misr...r/6741795.html


"If you’re a Russian immigrant in the United States — or anywhere else — don’t bother tweeting your opinions unless your English is flawless. Otherwise you’ll be branded a Kremlin-paid troll by influential American think tanks."
Source: RT, April 4, 2018”
I have literally been called a russian-paid troll on this very website. People even suggesting I am from russia or living there
But on twitter it would be different?
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

https://www.polygraph.info/a/rt-call...s/6741830.html

So this is about:
https://www.rt.com/news/426953-opcw-...araqeb-attack/

“Despite the compelling narrative of the OPCW, the former British ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, characterized the report as "seriously misleading" and "deeply disturbing."

"The mission was supposed to be fact finding, but when you actually read the 34 pages of the report, you discover that there are no facts in it at all – not one fact which is supported by independent observers," Ford told RT.”
The entire article is based around statements made by this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ford_%28diplomat%29

https://ccps21.org/boards/distinguis...or-peter-ford/

“ His current role is advisor to the Bahrain Royal Charity Organisation in addition to his consultative role to Members of Parliament on Syria. He is a frequent commentator on Syria in the international media.”
Again, real journalism; they have a source and quote him
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

https://www.rt.com/russia/440851-hal...ns-friendship/

“ Researchers from independent Russian public opinion research center Levada and the Kiev International Sociology Institute, who worked together to conduct the poll, said that the proportion of people who want friendship between Russia and Ukraine remained the same over the past 10 years. ”
RT.com is reporting on a poll conducted by

KIIS is a private Ukrainian company which works in collaboration with the National University of “Kyiv-Mohyla Academy”. KIIS was founded in 1990 as a research center of Sociological Association of Ukraine and transformed into private enterprise in 1992. We were a pioneer in the establishment of sociological research standards in Ukraine. Our innovations in Ukrainian sociological research are: the first manual for interviewers and interviewer’s training in 1992; the first face-to-face interviews and focus-groups in 1992; the first national software for statistical data analysis in 1990; the first software for sample design in 1993.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

You alright?

This is how I'm picturing you right now:


No I didn't read all of it, you know why? Because I already know that RT is not a trustworthy source as I've been saying for two days.

My main point of argument with RT is that they are state owned, funded and affiliated. There's also little "free press" in Russia. Those two very things alone make it untrustworthy.

So unless you can prove to me that there is just as much free press in Russia as the western world AND that RT is NOT a government funded, therefore government controlled... there's nothing to debate.

People can't even call this "special military operation" a war in Russia or they face prison time.

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This is the very best you could come up with, never in your life did you read a fake article on RT.com. You were unable to provide any example, only able to regurgitate your own governments ‘fact checkers’

Compare this to:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/31/c...ing-fake-news/

Yet you’d still rate CNN higher than RT.com

“Well, CNN mostly tells the truth, pretty often really. They lie no more than a few times a day at most, which is a lot better than RT.com because they lie 100% all of the time, as they are filthy russians who basically can not nor should ever be trusted.”

Please put me on ignore, i did the same to you when i said i would never mention your name again. I already knew who you were when you talked about (insert personal fact), every post after that basically confirmed it. I can only read your post if somebody quotes you and even then I’d just skip over it, unless somebody meaningful is quoting you.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

Months ago you wrote, and I am paraphrasing

“I have been writing many articles on the Ukraine conflict I am in a position of knowledge on the subject which is why I write articles about the Ukraine conflict, but duntez, what is this ‘Donbas’ you speak of?
‘EuroMaidan’? That a Swedish band? Why would you bring that up duntez?”



That really sounded like an aspiring ‘CNN journalist’ to me; everything wrong with current day reporting basically.
Then a few hours later, you read Wikipedia and now you knew exactly what happened.

Really, don’t respond to me ever again because i cannot even see it. Agree to disagree. Understand that I have 100% more respect for Boneface than even 100 of you, combined.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

so I had to spend some time to find it but I guess it was all worth it.
Here is the original report from RT. Thats the one polygraph.info used to cut out portion of it and make it look like it was all alone RTs statement.

https://www.rt.com/russia/440851-hal...ns-friendship/

Researchers from independent Russian public opinion research center Levada and the Kiev International Sociology Institute, who worked together to conduct the poll, said that the proportion of people who want friendship between Russia and Ukraine remained the same over the past 10 years. This is despite a campaign of anti-Russian propaganda in Ukraine and numerous infringements of Russian speakers’ rights which have been taking place since the 2014 replacement of the lawfully-elected Ukrainian government with a pro-Western regime in the course of violent protests known as “Maidan.”

The fact that polygraph.info skipped the first part is showing that they made this article for one goal only. Not to fairly judge RT rather trash them. Because RT said exactly what source they are relying on.
Also, RT didn't hide the numbers. If you scroll up and down the entire article you will see that they spoke about numbers among Ukrs and Rus who took part in this questionaries.

this is the site of Ukr institution for this polls.

https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=rus&ca...e=1&y=2018&m=3


and they have this tables (attached)

1st screen shot - What would you like to see Ukraine's relations with Russia? ( Ukrainian answers)
2nd screen shot - the same question but with Ukraine ( Russian answers)

Where 1st column - Date.

2nd column - They should be the same as with other states - with closed borders, visas, customs.

3rd column - Ukraine and Russia should be independent, but friendly states - with open borders, without visas and customs.


where is Russia you can see the same numbers pretty much. And Ukraine lost 23 points but, keep in mind that back in 2008 There was Krimea and Donbas.

And over all...just read the full article RT did...I feel like polygraph.info copy/pasted their numbers and acaused them for not bringing this valuable information up

Not only polygraph.info state owned ( doubstandard) but also liars themselves and propagandists.


EDIT: shot im sorry I highlighted wrong year for Rus poll. But difference is small anyway
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread II

Holly fuck Faust..it looks like you were waiting on someone to try and prove with examples to break that RT is not trustworthy This is funny
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