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Community Forum · Est. 2006
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#101
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05-20-2022, 01:49 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
CCTV camera footage, obtained by The Times, showed Russian soldiers leading a group of Ukrainian captives toward the courtyard where they would be executed moments later on March 4. It is the last time the men would be seen alive: In two videos, Russian paratroopers march them at gunpoint along a street in Bucha, a suburb of Kyiv. Some of the Ukrainian captives are hunched over, holding the belts of those in front of them. Others have their hands over their heads. “Walk to the right, bitch,” one of the soldiers orders them. The videos, filmed on March 4 by a security camera and a witness in a nearby house and obtained by The New York Times, are the clearest evidence yet that the men were in the custody of Russian troops minutes before being executed. “Hostages are lying there, against the fence,” the person filming one of the videos says. He counts: “One, two, three, for sure, four, five, six …” In total, nine people are being held. The men are forced to the ground, including one wearing a distinctive bright blue hooded sweatshirt. A video obtained by The Times showed a group of Ukrainian men being led to the makeshift Russian base. The video ends. But eight witnesses recounted to The Times what happened next. Soldiers took the men behind a nearby office building that the Russians had taken over and turned into a makeshift base. There were gunshots. The captives didn’t return. A drone video filmed a day later on March 5, also obtained by The Times, is the first visual evidence that confirms the eyewitness accounts. It showed the dead bodies lying on the ground by the side of the office building at 144 Yablunska Street as two Russian soldiers stood guard beside them. Among the bodies, a flash of bright blue was visible — the captive in the blue sweatshirt. Drone footage filmed for the Ukrainian military, and obtained by The Times, showed Russian soldiers standing next to the men’s bodies a day after the execution. A photograph of the executed men’s bodies lying in a courtyard, some with their hands bound, was among a range of images that received global attention in early April after Russian forces withdrew from Bucha. Russian leaders at the highest levels have repeatedly denied wrongdoing in Bucha and described the images as a “provocation and fake.” But a weekslong investigation by The Times provides new evidence — including the three videos — that Russian paratroopers rounded up and intentionally executed the men photographed in the courtyard, directly implicating these forces in a likely war crime. Russia’s foreign affairs and defense ministries did not respond to requests for comment on The Times’s findings. |
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#102
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05-20-2022, 02:28 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
- Some more media related to kellyhound's post (above) about civilians executed by Russian soldiers in Bucha on March 4th..
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#103
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05-20-2022, 02:39 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
This kind of news is kind of bad, it could indicate a tonal shift in the narrative. “Weak incompetent and failing at everything” can only be replaced with “brutal ruthless agressor”. (They were only able to succeed because they shot civilians on sight! Never mind our earlier campaign of village people stopping entire tanks by just standing in front of them!) |
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#104
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05-20-2022, 03:06 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
An army that is awful at combined arms can also roll into a city and start shooting civilians. Those two things are not mutually exclusive and you know that. Mental gymnastics you're displaying here.
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#105
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05-20-2022, 03:09 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
- Bucha locals. - Azov commanders are still at Azovstal fighting. This is Captain "Kalyna" Palamar, deputy commander of Azov |
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#106
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05-20-2022, 03:20 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
- Captioned "A bear was found hibernating" - More Ukranian-crewed Polish T-72M1's are reaching the eastern front. - Russian tank runs over an AT mine - Looks like a burning Russian MT-LB |
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#109
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05-20-2022, 04:15 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
He's a soldier who's seen a lot of combat. Rescue plan? |
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#110
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05-20-2022, 05:05 AM
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Re: Russian Invasion Ukraine Day 82/83/84/85/86 (May 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21th)
Did you not post any videos of villagers arguing with soldiers and refusing to let tanks pass? Maybe it was somebody else but you must have seen it. So in reality they are just executing said villagers when there was nobody around to film it? Okay then |