[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I thought I saw this posted somewhere but can't find it. Happened yesterday.

"3.000 m2 Russian research and production plant on fire in Aramil near Yekaterinburg.

More than 100 people have been evacuated."

[ljubodrag]

For the high school dropouts who confuses history with fiction.

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Solovyov is still crying about his Italian villa being seized. This has been going on for days.

[ThoughtOasis]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

For 5386th time. No one is denying there's nationalist in Ukraine. There are MORE in Russia. There are nationalists in every predominately white country.

You should stop spreading fake news that everyone but Russia doesn't know about it.

At this point, in the eyes of Putin and the RF and for many pro-Russians including yourself... anyone who is anti-Putin, anti-Russian Federation, or even anti-Russian is considered a Nazi.

It's getting quite comical. Russia should be putting itself in check before trying to check other countries on this issue.

I'm probably nitpicking and you didn't mean to imply what I'm getting into, but I wanted to comment regardless:
Nationalism can be found in every country, not just white countries. One can look to the numerous factions in South Africa, Middle East, Asia (i.e. China and Japan), and South America. Even Mexican drug cartels have a nationalist bent in their propaganda.

Nationalism and racism are not synonyms. A nationalist *can* be a racist - and many times they are - but it's not a required component to be a nationalist despite what pop media culture has (incorrectly) spread.

Conversely, one can be racist and support 'internationalism' (as opposed to nationalism); plenty of well known figures were, such as Karl Marx and Lenin.

And I hope I don't have to point out the obvious fact that anyone can be racist. A racist mentality is not dependent upon one type of skin color...
Again, China, Japan, various S. African political parties and even the drug cartels serve as prime examples of this too (i.e. overt racism).

Anyway, carry on ladies and gents. Interesting convos at hand.

[ljubodrag]

Claim has come about that Russian forces have captured the commander of the 92nd Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (unit responsible for a lot of bombing of Donetsk from Avdeevka over the years).

Edit: It appears that the video is from last year. Sorry about that.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

For the Serbs who were drunk during history class

Yeah, the greatest myth in Russia is that the soviet union existed. Jubo and Faust are probably believers in that myth as well, and it's why they have such a messed-up view of Russia.
If you understand the real history, then everything makes sense. The war in Ukraine, the war in Georgia, the tanks moving into Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland etc.
Members of "USSR" weren't "members" of the union, they were "subjects" of the occupation.
And that's why they all wanted to join NATO asap.


A few comments to Jubo here as well, so he wouldnt feel left out.



1) Nuking Japan = good decision that ended the war and saved hundreds of thousands...maybe even millions. Japan, even after losing a war, gained a lot from being a "loser". It is one of the more advanced and prosperous countries in the world.

2) What Korea thinks? Korea is absolutely grateful for the United States intervention. Again, take your shitty head out of your head and compare the 2 Koreas. One that kept its dictator and "won" the war and remained affiliated to Russia = Total nightmare. Our most mundane everyday life is a distant dream to most North Koreans. Just go and read the autobiographies of those who have escaped NK.
Now, go and look at the "loser" of the Korean war. Again, the losing side is one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
For reference:
the average salary in South Korea = $3200,
the average salary in Serbia = $750

3) Now, Vietnam...again, "won" the war and kept its shitty communism and...look at their prosperous economy now. It's one of the poorest countries in the world.

4) Iraq - well, that war was good and justified, but the execution was screwed up. As it turns out, the pattern of trying to uplift theocracies and people who are severely indoctrinated into a religion that is fundamentally incompatible with the modern world just doesn't work. But...Iraq will be better off in a few decades than it was before the war. Also, Iraq had other wars, with Iran, Kuwait, etc.

5) Pakistan hasn't really had any wars with US, just a few skirmishes. Pakistan itself is a shitty theocracy where murdering innocent people is legally allowed, so...if US wanted to liberate it, I wouldn't care. Too bad they have nukes.

6) Yugoslavia - Great work NATO, thumbs up from me.

7) Afghanistan - Again, great attempt at modernizing a country and bringing civilization into that part of the world...but, shitty execution. Not for the lack of effort, but again, the same pattern as before is to blame....fundamentally incompatible religion from the iron age just cant be modernized that easily. Usually, at least 1 generation needs to die off in order to fix severe religious indoctrination. In case of Afghanistan, it takes 2 generations at least.

And the last 2 pictures are just Jubos wet dreams.

[SDI]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Yeah, the greatest myth in Russia is that the soviet union existed. Jubo and Faust are probably believers in that myth as well, and it's why they have such a messed-up view of Russia.
If you understand the real history, then everything makes sense. The war in Ukraine, the war in Georgia, the tanks moving into Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Poland etc.
Members of "USSR" weren't "members" of the union, they were "subjects" of the occupation.
And that's why they all wanted to join NATO asap.

The list is incomplete, unfortnately:

Chechenya 1999, East Germany 1953, probably many more.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Roosta ↗

Well, They can fix there situation by fucking of back home, simple.

Their commanders threaten to shoot them if they try to leave.

[WonderMomma]

"Making rounds in the Russian and Ukrainian internet today is an alleged leaked recording of a phone call between a notable Russian music producer Iosif Prigozhin (not Wagner's Prigozhin) and Farkhad Akhmedov, an Azerbaijani businessman and a former politician in Russia.

In this 35-minute call, both men who appear to be friends discuss the current affairs in Russia and slam Putin and Russian leadership, amply using curse words.

This segment pieced together and translated by us contains the juiciest parts. In the rest of the call, men complain about sanctions, which affected both personally.

While Mr. Prigozhin denied that this call happened and claimed it was a deepfake made using neural networks, he later commented by saying "Let's start with the fact that there is such a thing as private life. People in a private conversation can talk about anything", but stated he "couldn't remember such a call happening.

The Russian audience does not appear as convinced, however - a poll ran by one prominent Russian separatist Oleg Tsaryov on Telegram showed 58% believed it was real, and only 13% thought it was a deep fake.

While the call is not informative by itself, if real, it could indicate the mood among some elites in Russia."

[Guns N' Coffee]

Ukraine war: How a Russian child's drawing sparked a police investigation

By Steve Rosenberg
Russia Editor, Yefremov

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65015289


Masha's school contacted the police after the 12-year-old drew this picture


Masha Moskaleva has not been seen in public since 1 March

In the centre of the Russian town of Yefremov is a wall covered in pictures of war. Giant photographs of masked Russian soldiers with guns and supersized letters Z and V - symbols of the country's so-called special military operation in Ukraine.

There's a poem, too:

Good should have fists.

Good needs an iron hand

To tear the skin from those

Who threaten it.

This is the official, patriotic picture of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

But in this town, 320km (200 miles) south of Moscow, you'll find another image of the Ukraine war. A very different one.

Town councillor Olga Podolskaya shows me a photo on her mobile phone. It's of a child's drawing. To the left is a Ukrainian flag with the words "Glory to Ukraine", on the right, the Russian tricolour and the inscription "No to war!". As missiles fly in from the direction of Russia, a mother and her child stand defiantly in their path.

The picture was drawn in April 2022 by then 12-year-old Masha Moskaleva. Her father Alexei, a single parent, had contacted the town councillor for advice. He told her that after seeing Masha's drawing, her school had called the police.

"The police started investigating Alexei's social media," Olga tells me. "And they told him that he was bringing up his daughter in a bad way."

Charges followed. For an anti-war post on social media, Alexei was fined 32,000 roubles (around $415 or £338 at the time) for discrediting the Russian armed forces. A few weeks ago, a criminal case was opened against him. Again, anti-war posts formed the basis for discreditation charges.

This time Alexei faces a possible prison sentence.

Alexei is currently under house arrest in Yefremov. His daughter Masha has - for now - been sent to a children's home. Alexei has not even been allowed to speak to her on the phone.

"No-one has seen Masha since 1 March," Olga Podolskaya tells me, "despite our attempts to get access to the children's home and to find out how she is.

"The Russian authorities want everyone to toe the line. No-one is allowed to have their own opinion. If you disagree with what someone thinks, then don't read their social media posts. But don't put that person under house arrest and their child in a children's home."

We are standing outside an apartment block in Yefremov. A window opens and a man looks out. It's Alexei. We're not allowed to communicate with him. Under the rules of his house arrest Alexei is only permitted contact with his lawyer, the investigator and the penitentiary service.


Alexei Moskalev is being held under house arrest and faces a possible prison sentence over his social media posts


The lawyer, Vladimir Biliyenko, has just arrived. He's come to deliver food and drink which local activists have bought for Alexei.

"He is very worried because his daughter is not with him," Vladimir tells me after visiting Alexei Moskalev. "Everything in the flat reminds him of her. He's worried about what may be happening to her."

I ask the lawyer why he thinks the authorities have taken Masha away.

"If they had real questions for the father, they should have invited him to give a statement. They should have invited Masha, too, and spoken to her," Vladimir says.

"None of this was done. They just decided to send her off [to the children's home]. In my opinion, if it wasn't for the kind of administrative and criminal charges Alexei has received, this wouldn't be happening. The social services seem obsessed with this family. I think it's purely for political reasons. The family's problems only began after the girl drew that picture."

On the street, I ask Alexei's neighbours what they think of the situation.

"She's a good girl, and I've never had a problem with the dad," says pensioner Angelina Ivanovna. "But I'm scared to say anything. I'm frightened to."

"Perhaps we could collect signatures in [Alexei's] support," a younger woman suggests. But when asked for her opinion on what is happening, she replies: "Sorry, I can't tell you."

I ask if she is frightened about possible consequences.

"Yes, of course."

It's a short walk from Alexei Moskalev's apartment block to School No 9, where Masha had studied and that her father says called the police over Masha's anti-war drawing. The school has yet to respond to our written request for comment. When we tried to visit, we were told we couldn't come in. Our telephone calls went unanswered.

But I have visited School No 9's website. The images there remind me of the patriotic wall I saw in the centre of town.

The home page features Heroes of the Special Military Operation - two dozen portraits of Russian soldiers who fought in Ukraine.

There are patriotic slogans, too: "Everything for Victory. Let's support our lads on the front line!"

Soldiers back from Ukraine visited School No 9 last October. In а speech that day school director Larisa Trofimova declared: "We believe in ourselves and in our Motherland, which can never make a mistake."

Across town, supporters of the Moskalev family and journalists are gathering at the local courthouse. The Yefremov Juvenile Affairs Commission is taking legal action to officially restrict Alexei's parental rights.

It's an initial hearing known as "a conversation" with the judge. Lawyer Vladimir Biliyenko says Alexei had wanted to be here in person. However he hasn't been allowed to interrupt his house arrest to come to court, even though what's at stake is access to his child.

In the courthouse corridor an activist unfurls a poster.

"Return Masha to her father!" it declares. A police officer tells her to take it down.

The Juvenile Affairs Commission has yet to respond to our request to comment on the case of Alexei Moskalev and his daughter Masha.

One of Alexei's supporters, Natalya Filatova, believes the story of the Moskalev family reflects the crackdown on dissent in Russia.

"Our constitution proclaims freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, total freedom for citizens to express their opinions," Natalya tells me. "But now we're forbidden from doing that."

Even Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner paramilitary force spearheading Russia's offensive, has voiced support for Maria and criticised local authorities for their actions.
AFP
Russian town shocked by case of child's Ukraine drawing
Victoria LOGUINOVA-YAKOVLEVA
Sun, March 26, 2023, 8:02 PM PDT