[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

The Ukrainian forgot he was not on twitter and that there are consequences to our actions (same as his leader). Bitch slapping around means that the person is not injured and he lived to tell the tale and upload his little video.

To open handedley slap someone. Denote disrespect for the person being bitch slapped as they are not worthy of a man sized punch. Suggests the slap was met with little resistance and much whining

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=bitch%20slap

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

UA CIPSO 24/7

It is amazing how much of that shit is regurgitated around here and in most of the western world though! Especially because we believe we are educated and cannot be easily fooled

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

It is amazing how much of that shit is regurgitated around here and in most of the western world though! Especially because we believe we are educated and cannot be easily fooled

I mean, this guys are on governmental paycheck since 2014 at least. Can’t imagine how much money this organization gets now.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

The Ukrainian forgot he was not on twitter and that there are consequences to our actions (same as his leader). Bitch slapping around means that the person is not injured and he lived to tell the tale and upload his little video.



https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=bitch%20slap

I know what bitch slapping is you condescending hypocrite.

Putting your hands on anyone in any way is violence that in one breath you codone and in the next you condemn. You post Russian propaganda making all these whatabouting arguments, derailing the whole thread and then you turn around chastise someone else for "pro-Ukrainian circle jerking" and derailing?

You see the pattern? I think you KNOW what you're doing and that, in and of itself, is definitely trolling. I see you. I see the progression and know what consequences are coming. Keep going. lol

There are consequences to every action for every human being regardless of where they're from and who their leader is. Take for example, Russia. Who invaded a country expecting to take it in no more than two weeks but instead got its ass handed to it forcing it to retreat to smaller portions of the country it already had a presence in. Putin is definitely feeling the consequences of his actions 510 days later.

You posted this video of a Ukrainian man confronting a Russian woman whose husband immediately gets violent with him. There are multiple accounts of the same shit happening all over the world. Violence begets violence. One of their countries invaded another. Emotions are high. But this is nothing more than a useless pissing match tactic on your part.

If hypocriticism had a "pride" flag you'd be flying that bitch proudly.

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

The irony is these are actually kidnapped ukrainian children

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...n-via-belarus/

Exclusive: Belarus abducts thousands of Ukrainian children
Alexander Lukashenko implicated in alleged war crime as boys and girls as young as six are taken to camps in 'forced deportation'

Thousands of Ukrainian children have been forcibly deported to Belarus in an alleged war crime that could implicate president Alexander Lukashenko.

Some 2,150 Ukrainian children as young as six are estimated to have been taken to at least four camps in Belarus since September 2022, with the number expected to reach 3,000 by autumn this year. Some are alleged to have been given military training.

Evidence linking these crimes to Mr Lukashenko and other Belarusian officials has been submitted to the International Criminal Court (ICC), The Telegraph can reveal.

“We want to show the world that such activity [being] organised precisely by Mr Lukashenko is a war crime,” said Pavel Latushka, head of the opposition group National Anti-Crisis Management, which submitted the accusations.

“In our opinion, [he] is the main [individual] responsible for the forcible displacement of these children to Belarus … he directly gave instructions on organising the financing of these processes.”

Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, and Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights, already face an ICC arrest warrant, announced in March, for the alleged forced deportation of thousands of Ukrainian children into Russia.

The ICC’s investigation could now widen to include Mr Lukashenko and other Belarusian officials. The court said it assessed information received, and was “duty bound to protect the confidentiality” of such communications.

It comes weeks after Mr Lukashenko, described as Europe’s last dictator, cut a deal with the Russian president to host the troops from the Wagner militia that led a mutiny against the Kremlin.

Mr Lukashenko, increasingly believed to be a puppet leader of a Russian vassal state, has also this month taken delivery of Russian tactical nuclear warheads in a further threat to Europe and the West.

Moscow began systematically transporting children from Ukraine into Russia in the weeks before it invaded in late February 2022.

The practice has continued and the Ukrainian government now estimates that more than 19,500 children have been forcibly transferred by Russian authorities.

Only 361 of them have been returned to Ukraine, Darya Herasymchuk, the Ukrainian presidential commissioner for children’s rights, told The Telegraph.

More than 100 criminal cases have been filed in Ukraine regarding the illegal forced deportation of children, including to Belarus and Russia, the Ukrainian prosecutor-general’s office said.

Purported orphans are “evacuated” from eastern Ukraine by Russia into holding camps. Some of those children are then “adopted” into Russian families. Other children are sent to “holiday camps” by Russian-aligned officials, never to return.

Some of the children held in Belarus are believed to have been sent on to Russia, including in the far eastern reaches of the country, nearly 4,000 miles from Ukraine.

Ukrainian children being held in Belarus typically travel through Rostov-on-Don, a Russian city two hours from the Ukrainian border – from where Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner chief, recently launched his armed rebellion.

From there, they are transferred by train to Minsk, the capital of Belarus, then taken by bus to various facilities, including at least four locations identified by researchers and human rights lawyers.

Camps of lost children
One document seen by The Telegraph is signed by Dmitry Mezentsev, chairman of a Russian-Belarusian body and former Russian ambassador to Belarus. It requests the co-operation between the Belarusian and Russian state railway operators to organise the “transportation of the children of Donbas for rehabilitation to the brotherly Belarus”.

The document has been submitted to the ICC as evidence by the National Anti-Crisis Management, run by a group of exiles who oppose the Belarusian government.

The organisation has also submitted other material, including Belarusian state media reports that explicitly state the movement of children by order of Mr Lukashenko.

Three “camps” are in the Minsk region, including the Ostroshitsky Gorodok Sanatorium, the Zubrenok national children’s educational and health centre, and Dubrava children’s camp, owned by the Belarusian state fertiliser company Belaruskali.

A fourth location is the Golden Sands Sanatorium in the Gomel region.

Families searching for missing children “may not even know their children are in Belarus”, said Kateryna Rashevska, a lawyer at the Regional Centre for Human Rights, a Ukrainian NGO.

One video submitted to the ICC as evidence shows the Gruzdev sisters, Belarusian pop singers, speaking to Ukrainian children at what is believed to be the Dubrava camp.

“So that we live in peace, so that Biden dies, God forgive me, so that Zelensky dies too, and Putin prospers and takes control of all of Ukraine,” the sisters say to dozens of children seated in the audience.

The number of children to be deported into Belarus is expected to top 3,000 this autumn, according to internal documents and Belarusian state media reports.

Russia says it is legally removing children from the threat of war. Authorities offer money to incentivise parents to “adopt” Ukrainian children.

The Telegraph has also found that children detained in holding camps in Russia are forced to undergo re-education and beaten if they refuse to comply.

Ukrainian children are often told they are Russian, forced to learn the Russian national anthem, spoken to only in Russian, and taught to denounce Ukraine before being adopted or fostered.

In rare cases, there have been instances of children undergoing training in the use of firearms and military vehicles. Mr Latushka’s group has also alleged that children held in Belarus are being taught how to use weapons.

Human rights activists have highlighted concerns regarding Ukrainian boys in their late teens – if they turn 18 after being forcibly deported to Russia, or Russian-occupied areas, they would fall in the mandatory age range for conscription.

“The situation is very dangerous for teenagers; if they are 17 years old, and boys, it is catastrophic,” said Ms Rashevska.

“After turning 18, they will be transferred as cannon fodder for this war; this is the Russian strategy.”

The Belarusian government did not respond to a request for comment. Mr Lukashenko in June said that he had offered to Mr Putin to host children in Belarus.

The Belarusian leader said he has reached out to Putin and they agreed to fund the children’s stay in Belarus from the state budget.

“This is how we started taking them here,” Mr Lukashenko said Tuesday. “We help improve their health and they leave. They actually don’t want to leave.”

"The head of the Belarusian Red Cross Society, Dmitry Shevtsov, admitted in a report by Belarus 1 TV channel that his organization was involved in the deportation of children from Ukraine.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Shevtsov."

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

I know what bitch slapping is you condescending hypocrite.

Putting your hands on anyone in any way is violence that in one breath you codone and in the next you condemn. You post Russian propaganda making all these whatabouting arguments, derailing the whole thread and then you turn around chastise someone else for "pro-Ukrainian circle jerking" and derailing?

You see the pattern? I think you KNOW what you're doing and that, in and of itself, is definitely trolling. I see you. I see the progression and know what consequences are coming. Keep going. lol

There are consequences to every action for every human being regardless of where they're from and who their leader is. Take for example, Russia. Who invaded a country expecting to take it in no more than two weeks but instead got its ass handed to it forcing it to retreat to smaller portions of the country it already had a presence in. Putin is definitely feeling the consequences of his actions 510 days later.

You posted this video of a Ukrainian man confronting a Russian woman whose husband immediately gets violent with him. There are multiple accounts of the same shit happening all over the world. Violence begets violence. One of their countries invaded another. Emotions are high. But this is nothing more than a useless pissing match tactic on your part.

If hypocriticism had a "pride" flag you'd be flying that bitch proudly.

Yep, That's Faust to the Core !

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

"The head of the Belarusian Red Cross Society, Dmitry Shevtsov, admitted in a report by Belarus 1 TV channel that his organization was involved in the deportation of children from Ukraine.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Shevtsov."

Wonder how our pro ruskies feel about all the child steeling going on, first the ruskies & now these Belarusians doing it, dead set fucken low life scum.

[Guns N' Coffee]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

UA CIPSO 24/7

I don't think they are involved in this

https://news.italy24.press/world/697872.html

Destroyed to see my daughter used like this

Australian photographer Helen Whittle to Fanpage.it: “I’m the author of that shot of my daughter, no one has asked me for permission to reproduce it, I’m asking my lawyers about what to do”. The shot is covered by copyright.

Jorit’s mural in Mariupol

The little girl portrayed by Ciro Cerullo, in art Joriton a bombed-out building in Mariupol is not “a little girl from Donbass who lived her first years immersed in the war” – as claimed by the artist – but an Australian girl: Jorit copied the shot taken a few years ago by her mother exactly of the little one — the lady is an award-winning photographer — and protected by copyright.

A circumstance which, in addition to undermining the credibility of the Neapolitan artist and of those who have given him credit as a hero of international pacifism in recent days, opens many doubts about the whole operation and who organized it. And that could cost Jorit a lot of money.

“It was distressing and painful for me to see my image copied and used in this way”, Helen Whittle tells Fanpage.it, the author of the artistic photo that Jorit used for his mural. “Jorit did not ask my permission to reproduce the image or compensate me in any way,” she explains in an email. “I have not given any permission to reproduce and I’m asking my lawyers for advice on what to do.”

Above all, Whittle unequivocally dissociates himself from the messages that Jorit says he wanted to send by painting the mural: “My ideas and opinions are in no way in line with those of this artist”.

On social media and in interviews with so-called newspapers such as DonBassItalia, Jorit had expressed his belief that our country should help not Ukraine but Donbass, understood as Russia, in this war. Indicating as reasons the alleged aggression of Kyiv against the civilians of the separatist republics and “the imperialism of the United States, which has controlled Ukraine since 2014 like a puppet”. No mention that Russia invaded Ukraine.

In an interview with GiornaleRadio, Jorit added: “I chose to paint a little girl from Donbass who remained alive and who lived her first years in the war in Mariupol. I hope this little girl will soon be able to see her live portrait”.

The girl in the mural is identical to Whittle’s shot even in the folds of the turtleneck he wears. “She is not a child from Donbass and is obviously a copy of my photograph, the subject of which is my daughter,” comments the photographer.

The only obvious difference with the Australian portrait, in Jorit’s work, is the NATO-registered missile painted over the girl’s right shoulder. The only contribution of the artist, in addition to the iconic tribal signs on the cheeks, characteristic of the murals of the Neapolitan painter.

“I am an artist who enters reality to tell it”, Jorit told GiornaleRadio. “I wanted to tell with my mural (sic!) the other side of the coin, a forgotten little girl. I want to reach peace, I want to make a contribution with my story”.

The street artist wanted to underline that he had “everything to lose by creating a work like this, becoming a target, being covered in insults”. Adding, again in the interview with GiornaleRadio: “I could stay at home, mind my own business, make money and sell paintings. But I’m an artist and I have to follow my inspiration”.

“It seems that you find inspiration by copying images found on the internet”, replies from a distance, with bitterness, Helen Whittle. “I am sad and angry that an artist feels the need to copy someone else’s work without asking permission. And I am very saddened by the way my image, my daughter’s portrait, has been used.”

We will soon know what the possible legal developments of this affair will be, in which Jorit at least makes a very bad impression. Meanwhile, we have to ask ourselves who invited Ciro Cerullo to Mariupol and why.

On social media, the artist explained that he was in the city tormented first in 2015 and then – definitively – in 2022 by Russian bombing for an unidentified “festival” and that he had found in the organizers of the same people, “very interested in international things and to Italy”. Wars are also made like this: an invitation to a demonstration, a hasty artistic work and a lot of propaganda. Free? Jorit says yes. But he will have to answer many questions. Which so far no one has done to him.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

I don't think they are involved in this

https://news.italy24.press/world/697872.html

Destroyed to see my daughter used like this

Australian photographer Helen Whittle to Fanpage.it: “I’m the author of that shot of my daughter, no one has asked me for permission to reproduce it, I’m asking my lawyers about what to do”. The shot is covered by copyright.

Jorit’s mural in Mariupol

The little girl portrayed by Ciro Cerullo, in art Joriton a bombed-out building in Mariupol is not “a little girl from Donbass who lived her first years immersed in the war” – as claimed by the artist – but an Australian girl: Jorit copied the shot taken a few years ago by her mother exactly of the little one — the lady is an award-winning photographer — and protected by copyright.

A circumstance which, in addition to undermining the credibility of the Neapolitan artist and of those who have given him credit as a hero of international pacifism in recent days, opens many doubts about the whole operation and who organized it. And that could cost Jorit a lot of money.

“It was distressing and painful for me to see my image copied and used in this way”, Helen Whittle tells Fanpage.it, the author of the artistic photo that Jorit used for his mural. “Jorit did not ask my permission to reproduce the image or compensate me in any way,” she explains in an email. “I have not given any permission to reproduce and I’m asking my lawyers for advice on what to do.”

Above all, Whittle unequivocally dissociates himself from the messages that Jorit says he wanted to send by painting the mural: “My ideas and opinions are in no way in line with those of this artist”.

On social media and in interviews with so-called newspapers such as DonBassItalia, Jorit had expressed his belief that our country should help not Ukraine but Donbass, understood as Russia, in this war. Indicating as reasons the alleged aggression of Kyiv against the civilians of the separatist republics and “the imperialism of the United States, which has controlled Ukraine since 2014 like a puppet”. No mention that Russia invaded Ukraine.

In an interview with GiornaleRadio, Jorit added: “I chose to paint a little girl from Donbass who remained alive and who lived her first years in the war in Mariupol. I hope this little girl will soon be able to see her live portrait”.

The girl in the mural is identical to Whittle’s shot even in the folds of the turtleneck he wears. “She is not a child from Donbass and is obviously a copy of my photograph, the subject of which is my daughter,” comments the photographer.

The only obvious difference with the Australian portrait, in Jorit’s work, is the NATO-registered missile painted over the girl’s right shoulder. The only contribution of the artist, in addition to the iconic tribal signs on the cheeks, characteristic of the murals of the Neapolitan painter.

“I am an artist who enters reality to tell it”, Jorit told GiornaleRadio. “I wanted to tell with my mural (sic!) the other side of the coin, a forgotten little girl. I want to reach peace, I want to make a contribution with my story”.

The street artist wanted to underline that he had “everything to lose by creating a work like this, becoming a target, being covered in insults”. Adding, again in the interview with GiornaleRadio: “I could stay at home, mind my own business, make money and sell paintings. But I’m an artist and I have to follow my inspiration”.

“It seems that you find inspiration by copying images found on the internet”, replies from a distance, with bitterness, Helen Whittle. “I am sad and angry that an artist feels the need to copy someone else’s work without asking permission. And I am very saddened by the way my image, my daughter’s portrait, has been used.”

We will soon know what the possible legal developments of this affair will be, in which Jorit at least makes a very bad impression. Meanwhile, we have to ask ourselves who invited Ciro Cerullo to Mariupol and why.

On social media, the artist explained that he was in the city tormented first in 2015 and then – definitively – in 2022 by Russian bombing for an unidentified “festival” and that he had found in the organizers of the same people, “very interested in international things and to Italy”. Wars are also made like this: an invitation to a demonstration, a hasty artistic work and a lot of propaganda. Free? Jorit says yes. But he will have to answer many questions. Which so far no one has done to him.

I wasn’t talking about who and why painted this. More about that WM posted “ according to Rus media etc” and Faust said “BS.. this is what they actually said (TASS)”.
Meaning that CIPSO could take Rus news and change it a little here, a little there

[Faust]

Yep, and we have the actual artist, linked here, on Instagram, his actual page and the actual message and artwork, without the Ukraine added backstory and the Ukraine added ‘nato missiles’. Also it is not the portrait of the daughter but an AI created composite images consisting of 2 photos and directed by 1 sketch

Edit for clarity, he explains this on his own page when he revealed the artwork, so to think that

In an interview with GiornaleRadio, Jorit added: “I chose to paint a little girl from Donbass who remained alive and who lived her first years in the war in Mariupol. I hope this little girl will soon be able to see her live portrait”.

Is anything other than Ukraine added bullshit would be extremely misguided