[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Looks like an event where the police+press outnumber the actual protesters.
I remember with thousands of people protesting nato in Europe our collective dr.com narrative was that we should really keep in mind all the people that didn’t protest it.
So do we apply that logic in this case as well or?

This reminds me of an event in Estonia, i think it was before we joined NATO, when there was a "massive pro russian protest", and in reality, only like 6 russian news channels showed up, and they ended up showing some random stock footage as the "massive pro russian" protest.

[WonderMomma]

1. Russians were asked whether they agree with absolutely all Putin's decisions.

2. Passers-by in Russia were asked what is more important for them: safety and stability or freedom, rights and opportunities.

[WonderMomma]

A power plant is on fire in Voronezh, Russia

[WonderMomma]

"On the night of May 3, Bryansk partisans, specializing in drone bombing, struck with 17 strike drones at the Seshcha military airfield, located in the Bryansk region at a distance of more than 180 km from the border with Ukraine.

As a result of the raid, 1 An-124 "Ruslan" aircraft was completely destroyed, and at least 5 more suffered serious shrapnel damage.

The cost of 1 Ruslan aircraft today is about 300 million dollars. Russia will not be able to restore them.

The Russians used these planes to transfer missile systems to Belarus and to deliver Iranian mopeds.

The enemy admitted the fact of the attack and the defeat of the targets, underestimating the number of attacking drones and the damage caused.

Attack drones with a maximum radius of 300 km were used to attack the Seshcha military airfield. These are light, small-sized devices with a wingspan of up to 3 meters, weighing up to 15 kg. The drones are equipped with a gasoline engine and carry a high-explosive warhead weighing up to 3 kg."

[Roosta]

[QUOTE=WonderMomma;7937537]"On the night of May 3, Bryansk partisans, specializing in drone bombing, struck with 17 strike drones at the Seshcha military airfield, located in the Bryansk region at a distance of more than 180 km from the border with Ukraine.

As a result of the raid, 1 An-124 "Ruslan" aircraft was completely destroyed, and at least 5 more suffered serious shrapnel damage.

The cost of 1 Ruslan aircraft today is about 300 million dollars. Russia will not be able to restore them.

The Russians used these planes to transfer missile systems to Belarus and to deliver Iranian mopeds.

The enemy admitted the fact of the attack and the defeat of the targets, underestimating the number of attacking drones and the damage caused.

Attack drones with a maximum radius of 300 km were used to attack the Seshcha military airfield. These are light, small-sized devices with a wingspan of up to 3 meters, weighing up to 15 kg. The drones are equipped with a gasoline engine and carry a high-explosive warhead weighing up to 3 kg."

[luc21]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Russian soldiers didn’t want to keep killing the Ukrainian soldiers in a certain region (they were pulled off the streets probably) so instead of killing them outright with artillery, in protest they made a plan to send them money and instructions on how to surrender. When the Russian leaders found out, instead of punishing the soldiers, they asked how many money they need and they helped them print the instructions even.

There are no numbers on the effectiveness, but at least they tried!

(I don’t know if this still counts as protest as it is now approved by the Russian MOD, but feel free to move it to another thread if needed!)

Seriously?

Do you really believe that?

[Faust]

Originally Posted by luc21 ↗

Seriously?

Do you really believe that?

While I admit that it has a strong Zelensky/Ghost of Kiev-vibe to it, it seems legit as I looked it up.
Israel does something similar before they bomb Palestinian civilian buildings (for housing terrorists); but there it is so that civilian people can get out in time, while the bad guys have no time to move their equipment.

So non-lethal shelling to prevent loss of life, even to your enemy, has happened so I’d rate it as probably true.

[luc21]

If you have elementary knowledge about the Russian regime, Russians, Russian culture, Russian media...etc About the connection between the regime, the army and the population...

You would very strictly doubt the truth of the report and that stupid theatrical video.

The video is addressed for Russian residents and a useful idiot. Ukrainians and others know it's propaganda.

BTW...Do you really believe that someone from the Kremlin gave the order to bring beautiful new banknotes from the bank, to throw them to Ukrainians just out of pure love and respect for life?

Russians deliberately kill, rape, bomb and exterminate civilians and you believe that I want to protect the soldiers? just look at how the prisoner exchange is going.
Russian prisoners are well treated and fed. Ukrainians are tortured, sick and starved. Why?

[Faust]

Actually with your displayed logic and level of knowledge; you should believe it 100% ;
A dead Ukrainian soldier is already dead and cannot be “tortured, sick and starved”. So the more living Ukrainian soldiers Russia can capture unharmed, the more they can do what you accuse them of.

Also with your logic, the Russians WANT to give the surrendering Ukrainians money, because it initially creates trust and false hope and then they can still take it away from hem before they make the Ukrainians “ tortured, sick and starved”.

I agree with the “ beautiful new banknotes ” part, as the soldiers would rather believe ‘old money’, so while there are certainly levels for improvement, if torture is the goal of the Russian regime then it makes sense that they need healthy surrendered Ukrainians because if they torture a person that is in a coma then it does not really make the evil Russians happy, probably.
I mean, from your logic, I am not saying I endorse any of it

[luc21]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Actually with your displayed logic and level of knowledge; you should believe it 100% ;
A dead Ukrainian soldier is already dead and cannot be “tortured, sick and starved”. So the more living Ukrainian soldiers Russia can capture unharmed, the more they can do what you accuse them of.

Also with your logic, the Russians WANT to give the surrendering Ukrainians money, because it initially creates trust and false hope and then they can still take it away from hem before they make the Ukrainians “ tortured, sick and starved”.

I agree with the “ beautiful new banknotes ” part, as the soldiers would rather believe ‘old money’, so while there are certainly levels for improvement, if torture is the goal of the Russian regime then it makes sense that they need healthy surrendered Ukrainians because if they torture a person that is in a coma then it does not really make the evil Russians happy, probably.
I mean, from your logic, I am not saying I endorse any of it

Just simly.

You claim or believe
/whatever/ that the Russians are throwing money at the Ukrainian soldiers to get them captured by the Russians because they care about the lives of the Ukrainian soldiers and the video is supposed to prove it.

Can you find any other records, evidence, video...just anything?