[luc21]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Turns out she didn’t lose the baby!! The western/Ukrainian media lied about it, so I guess she made this video in protest:

(I hope this doesn’t put her or her baby on a kill list)

Russian propaganda has always worked and will work on Russian audiences and useful idiots in the West.

[Guns N' Coffee]

https://english.nv.ua/nation/two-vet...-50323496.html

Two ‘veterans’ sitting next to Putin at May 9 parade were not WWII fighters – media reports



Neither of the two supposed veterans who were sitting next to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin during a military parade in Moscow on May 9 fought in any Second World War battles, Russian news outlet Agentstvo reported on May 9.

According to journalists, 98-year-old Yuriy Dvoikin, who signed up for the army as a volunteer in 1942, but never got to the front, was sitting to Putin’s right. After graduating from sniper school in 1944, he was sent to Lviv Oblast to fight against Ukrainian nationalists as part of the NKVD (the People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs).

Gennady Zaitsev, who was born in 1934 and did not take part in the war, was sitting on Putin’s left. He was called up for military service in 1953, after which he remained in the army and began serving in the KGB (the Soviet Committee for State Security) in 1959.

Zaitsev took part in the deployment of Soviet troops to Czechoslovakia to suppress anti-Soviet protests. He also led the KGB Directorate’s 7th group in the “Operation Danube.” The Interior Ministry’s building in Prague was captured under his leadership.

NKVD and KGB Veterans, Putie's People

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

How is it trolling to point out that you posted a deceiving video depicting a Pulitzer prize winning photo of a pregnant woman on a stretcher in Mariupol as the same woman calling the reporter?

The woman on the stretcher depicted in your video did die, as did her baby, and is not the same women confronting the reporter on the phone. Your video insinuates they are one in the same.

Also, she was living in Mariupol before Russia occupied the city... bombed BY RUSSIA... and is happy its returned to Russia?

That video is pure propaganda in every way and you posting it is more of an example of trolling than anything I have said.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I guess you are trolling (which does not affect me), but for anybody reading

You can't accuse others of not reading, you have an established reputation for not reading the very things you post for whatever convoluted point you're trying to make.

Plus WM has a good point with that and you just responded poorly to it, that's all that's going on here. You're really not good at this

Perfect timing on coming back by the way. I've got popcorn

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Most probably the Pentagon as the leaked documents show similar kill-ratios?

I understand the general sentiment on this forum (and in the ‘global community’) is in direct contradiction to the leaks, wether you choose to believe the pentagon, or the twitter of the Ukrainian government; the fact remains that Kenny protests the current narrative.

Maybe one day people look at his Ukraine statements the same way they look at his COVID statements; when he said that the vaccines could not stop the transmission of the virus (direct contradiction to Biden his statements at the time); people said he was a conspiracist, but now everybody is like: “we knew from the beginning that it could not stop transmission, the manufacturers never claimed this lol”.
Who knows right?

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Most probably the Pentagon as the leaked documents show similar kill-ratios?

I understand the general sentiment on this forum (and in the ‘global community’) is in direct contradiction to the leaks, wether you choose to believe the pentagon, or the twitter of the Ukrainian government; the fact remains that Kenny protests the current narrative.

Maybe one day people look at his Ukraine statements the same way they look at his COVID statements; when he said that the vaccines could not stop the transmission of the virus (direct contradiction to Biden his statements at the time); people said he was a conspiracist, but now everybody is like: “we knew from the beginning that it could not stop transmission, the manufacturers never claimed this lol”.
Who knows right?

The number of dead on both sides is mostly irrelevant, you're just regurgitating bullshit from the Kremlin about leaks that are touted as more significant than they are. Deathrates in Vietnam strongly favored the US but we lost the hell of that war of our choosing.

Whatever the death rates are, Russia is losing their war. That is more evident now than it was when you got banned from here. A constant loss of territory, inability to form any more large, broad, effective assaults, political goals over military ones, disunity in command, poor quality soldiers, logistics issues (which are harder to resolve for an invading force) and the strong possibility of ceding to Ukraine territory Russia controlled from 2014 including Crimea.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

How is it trolling to point out that you posted a deceiving video depicting a Pulitzer prize winning photo of a pregnant woman on a stretcher in Mariupol as the same woman calling the reporter?

The woman on the stretcher depicted in your video did die, as did her baby, and is not the same women confronting the reporter on the phone. Your video insinuates they are one in the same.

- woman 1 in the stretcher is in most of the western articles claiming an active maternity hospital was bombed
- woman 2 is also in some of those western articles claiming an active maternity hospital was bombed
- woman 2 speaking in the video is being interviewed in most of the western published videos claiming an active maternity hospital was bombed

Those are 2 separate women, depicting the same supposed event.

- woman 2 during the interview at the time and location of the supposed bombing of the active maternity hospital, said that the hospital was not bombed with them in it contradicting the western articles and videos regarding the subject, those videos and articles edited their videos to hide that fact/statement. As they all wanted to claim that an active maternity hospital was bombed while there were people in it, something which is not mentioned during any recorded interview of the people supposedly in it. In the video I posted woman 2 confronts the person who conducted the interview, but this person says he only took pictures.

And correct, the woman that did die, is woman 1, who was paraded around the cameras while (internally) bleeding out.
(As for civilians being used as human shields by the Ukrainian army, the western funded NGO Amnesty International reported on this)

Your only contribution to this thread is stating woman 1 and woman 2 are not the same person.. so again, if you are not trolling, then.. thanks

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Also, she was living in Mariupol before Russia occupied the city... bombed BY RUSSIA... and is happy its returned to Russia?

You can read western articles on how many ethnic Russians were/are living in Mariupol, even if only 25% (I didn’t look this up) there is a 1 in 4 chance the woman is ethnic Russian, in which case she could be related to people in Eastern Ukraine who experienced bombing of maternal hospitals for years? I don’t know, note that I am merely responding to your posts

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

The number of dead on both sides is mostly irrelevant, you're just regurgitating bullshit from the Kremlin about leaks that are touted as more significant than they are. Deathrates in Vietnam strongly favored the US but we lost the hell of that war of our choosing.

Whatever the death rates are, Russia is losing their war. That is more evident now than it was when you got banned from here. A constant loss of territory, inability to form any more large, broad, effective assaults, political goals over military ones, disunity in command, poor quality soldiers, logistics issues (which are harder to resolve for an invading force) and the strong possibility of ceding to Ukraine territory Russia controlled from 2014 including Crimea.

Again, merely responding to kellyhound on how Kennedy might have gotten his numbers.
I know you created a little echo chamber in the discussion thread where you all reinforce pro-Ukraine narratives, which is fine, but what you are doing now is bringing the discussion to other threads.
You know you are so right on any of this, whereas I am too stupid to understand anything, like the numbers claimed by the pentagon (which to me you appear to be doing some form of damage control over with your Vietnam statements) so why bother?

Maybe it is a good idea to have an anti war protest thread as well so that you don’t have to see videos of people protesting the continuation/ escalation of the war? That way you can ban me from this current thread and have an echo chamber here as well.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

https://english.nv.ua/nation/two-vet...-50323496.html

It’s even worse; the ‘veterans’ sitting behind putin weren’t even born yet.. what an epic fail right

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Again, merely responding to kellyhound on how Kennedy might have gotten his numbers.
I know you created a little echo chamber in the discussion thread where you all reinforce pro-Ukraine narratives, which is fine, but what you are doing now is bringing the discussion to other threads.
You know you are so right on any of this, whereas I am too stupid to understand anything, like the numbers claimed by the pentagon (which to me you appear to be doing some form of damage control over with your Vietnam statements) so why bother?

Maybe it is a good idea to have an anti war protest thread as well so that you don’t have to see videos of people protesting the continuation/ escalation of the war? That way you can ban me from this current thread and have an echo chamber here as well.

I don't think you're stupid, I just think you're willfully dishonest, lazy, delusional and seek an unhealthy amount of attention through edgy minority opinions and what you think people would see as "clever". You feed on it and it's cringe as hell

The anti war protests - some of those protests weren't even protesting the war, something entirely different somewhere in Europe and you were believing bottom shelf Russian propaganda and did zero homework before you posted stuff. You can only blame yourself for that, don't get mad at us you often got called out by multiple people

I'm happy you came back, it's right on time! Thanks Vixxen. I didn't create any echo chamber, anyone sensible here knows your alternate reality is ridiculous and fortunately people realize that so we end up having common perspectives. But no, according to you if more than a few people disagree with you then that's an "echo chamber". How amazingly arrogant