[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

The first video is a repost from yesterday that Faust already posted.

Not all the politicians are happy about the US's support to Ukraine... For the most recent support bill for Ukraine there 454 members of Congress that votes yes, 68 members who voted no, and 8 members that didn't vote at all for whatever reason.

Honestly, I don't feel right about all the money and stuff we're sending Ukraine when shit is so fucked up in our country... but Ukraine's victory in this war is important for the future of global security... No doubt Russia will not stop with Ukraine if they manage to get it... which is not looking too good right now.

So just like anything in this life... not everything that is decided upon will be supported by everyone.

I'd say that US doesn't really do anything unless it pays dividends at some point...so, they aren't really "giving" anything to Ukraine. They probably see it as an "investment" and will cash in some profits decades from now. Also...compared to the defense budget of the US....the total aid sent to Ukraine is still quite small.
I also agree that supporting Ukraine is necessary for global stability. You cant allow dictators claim new territories through wars. As long as you let them get away with it...they will keep repeating it. If Ukraine signs a peace deal now, then Russia will probably spend a few years rearming and will then attack again.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

You specifically said "I guess Zelle’s visit didn’t go as smooth as they tried to portrait it". It sounded like you were implying that the whole trip was exaggerated to make it sound better than it really was.

I was simply trying to explain that yes, overall it went fine, but like with most things in life, not everyone was happy about it.

Maybe I read too much into your statement... maybe not. But you're right... I'm going to stop responding to stuff. It no longer makes sense to do so.

I understand your good motives tho. I know majority supported it, but I ran across this guy and I thought “why not posting it?” It’s an opinion of a one guy that could potentially represent millions.

[duntez]

Meanwhile street art in Madrid ( Spain)

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Meanwhile street art in Madrid ( Spain)

Spain is a relative poor country so it is understandable that people are afraid the crisis will get worse.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Also...compared to the defense budget of the US....the total aid sent to Ukraine is still quite small.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-a...pport-tracker/
The closer to Russia/Ukraine the more % of their GDP they give as they don't want to become an even closer neighbor to Russia.

[WonderMomma]

In India, the deputy of the Vladimir region Pavel Antov was found dead in the pool

Antov was the richest civil servant according to Forbes in 2019. A few days before Pavel's death, the deputy's companion died in the same hotel. The Consulate General of the Russian Federation does not see a connection between the two deaths.

News Article (this says he fell from the hotel, perhaps he landed in the pool):

DEATH MYSTERY Wealthy Putin critic, 65, who called Ukraine invasion ‘terror’, found dead after mysterious fall during birthday trip

A RUSSIAN politician who slammed Putin’s war in Ukraine as terror has been found dead.

Multi-millionaire Pavel Antov was celebrating his upcoming 66th birthday on holiday when he mysteriously fell from a hotel in India.

Indian media reported that the sausage tycoon jumped from the roof but Russia’s consul general Alexei Idamkin insisted he fell from a window.

Married mogul Mr Antov, listed as Russia’s richest elected politician in 2019, was found in a pool of blood in Rayagada, Odisha state two days after another friend in his party died.

Vladimir Budanov, 61, is said to have died from a heart attack on Thursday.

In June Mr Antov slammed missile strikes on Ukraine, saying: "A girl has been pulled out from under the rubble, the girl’s father appears to have died.

"The mother is being pulled out with a crane — she is trapped under a slab. To tell the truth, it is extremely difficult to call this anything other than terror."

But he soon U-turned, deleting his social media post and issued a grovelling apology. He blamed the post on an "unfortunate misunderstanding" and a technical error.

In September another Putin critic was found suspiciously dead after an alleged suicide.

Pavel Pchelnikov, 52, was found shot on the balcony of his apartment in Moscow.

And in August nightclub tycoon Dan Rapoport, 52, also died in suspicious circumstances in the US.

The Putin critic apparently left a suicide note and money attached to his dog which he released into a park in Washington D.C.

It comes after Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky vowed yesterday in a hopeful Christmas message: "We will create our own miracle."

Zelensky told his war-torn nation: “We are coming for our people, we will return freedom to all Ukrainian men and women.”

He added: “Let’s endure this winter because we know what we are fighting for.

“Wherever we are, we will be together today. We will not wait for a miracle. After all, we create it ourselves.”

[WonderMomma]

The head of the plant where almost all submarines of the Black Sea Fleet were built died suddenly in St. Petersburg.

NEWS ARTICLE:

The head of a shipyard producing warships and submarines for Russia’s Defense Ministry has died suddenly at the age of 66—just the latest in a long line of powerful figures to croak mysteriously in recent months.

Alexander Buzakov was praised for overseeing some of Admiralty Shipyards’ most “complex orders” in a statement from United Shipbuilding Corporation announcing his death on Saturday.

“The United Shipbuilding Corporation, the Admiralty Shipyards and the entire national shipbuilding industry have suffered an irreparable loss, as Alexander Sergeevich Buzakov, Director General of the Admiralty Shipyards, passed away at the age of 66,” the corporation said in a statement.

Russia’s TASS news agency reported that the corporation said his “untimely” death had occurred “tragically,” but no cause of death was given, nor any details about where he died.

The corporation noted that Buzakov’s “main achievement” since taking the helm at one of Russia’s oldest and largest shipyards in 2011 was “the preservation and strengthening of positions in the market of modern non-nuclear submarines, surface ships and deep-sea equipment.”

In 2019, Buzakov told Interfax that Admiralty Shipyards was eager to begin producing diesel-powered submarines capable of launching Kalibr cruise missiles—the same ones Moscow has been using for months to indiscriminately kill civilians in Ukraine.

“We’re ready,” he said, adding that the company was “counting on” signing a contract with the Defense Ministry in 2020.

For his work, Buzakov was routinely rewarded by the Russian government with top honors, including two For the Merit of the Fatherland medals and the Order of Naval Merit.

St. Petersburg Gov. Alexander Beglov, in comments published by Kommersant, hailed Buzakov as a crucial figure for the country’s defense sector.

“His personal responsibility was great in fulfilling the most important government orders, primarily defense ones,” Beglov was quoted saying. “The fact that our country turned out to be prepared for confrontation with the West is a significant part of his work. Russia now has a powerful military and civilian fleet.”

[WonderMomma]

Kadyrov's 16-year-old son won in MMA. The two-time world champion in hand-to-hand combat played against Akhmatsila, but lost in the first round. (I thought he was in Ukraine with his brothers fighting in the war... but I only saw media on that for about a week or two so who knows)

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

How do you know it’s Russian? Lol

Just stop responding to me with such ridiculous questions.

It’s a fucking retarded commercial that some delusioned pro Russian created. Doesn’t matter which one.

Another example of the Russian side generalizing an entire group of people as being a certain way which is a common pattern, even here in these threads.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by marekparek ↗

bullshit. The comander will be fragged or shot in very first occasion even with his helper

anyway, how it has to be for russians? I mean being policed by chechens?

Idk, I usually try not to equalize everyone.

You mean by general of RF? Idk go ask those on the battle fields