[ente17]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Here it is guys, I already told you that those nazi bitches were using human shields:

Mariupol: Half truth in the mirror
Hamburg. On Monday, Spiegel put a three-minute video about the evacuation of civilians from the "Asowstal" steelworks in Mariupol online. Natalia Usmanova, who was employed in the plant before the Ukrainian War and had sought protection there with her children and husband, had his say. The "Azoov" regiment prevented her evacuation several times in two gruesome months, she explained in the Spiegel video: "We tried to escape, knew about the humanitarian corridors, about the evacuation, but were not let out." On Wednesday, there was also a longer video on YouTube, from which the interview excerpts were taken. "They held us in the bunker," Usmanova becomes even clearer. "They hid behind the fact that they are supposedly concerned about our safety." Again and again they were yelled at: "Go back to the bunker!" After the evacuation, the family decided not to return to Ukraine: "Ukraine died as a state for me."

In the meantime, Spiegel has temporarily removed the video from the side because of subsequently detected content discrepancies. He refers to having obtained the video material from the Reuters news agency. (jW)

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/425...m-spiegel.html


Reuters and der spiegel accidentally posted the truth LOL

Not sure what the azowstal is, or the azoov battallion..?

You even claimed to be a university student in a previous post ^^?

[Faust]

Originally Posted by ente17 ↗

Not sure what the azowstal is, or the azoov battallion..?

You even claimed to be a university student in a previous post ^^?

I can see why you would not understand what that is. So the concept of machine translation is probably even more beyond your level of comprehension

[Evi]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Europe mostly

let me guess germany?

[WhiskeyOutpost]

• The Ukrainian counteroffensive along a broad arc north and east of Kharkiv city took further terrain and will likely push Russian forces out of tube artillery range of the city in the coming days. The ability—and willingness—of the Ukrainian military to concentrate the forces in Kharkiv necessary to conduct this operation indicates Ukrainian confidence in repelling ongoing Russian attacks with their existing forces in the region.

• Russian forces did not make any progress on the Izyum axis. Ukrainian forces continued to repel Russian attacks on the Izyum axis in the last 24 hours, with Kharkiv Oblast civilian leadership reporting that Ukrainian forces inflicted heavy casualties on Russian forces on the outskirts of Barinkove. Russian forces around Izyum remain stalled and additional scattered reinforcements are unlikely to enable renewed advances.

• Russian forces likely secured small gains on the outskirts of Severodonetsk in the last 24 hours but are unlikely to successfully surround the town.

• Russian forces continued assaults on the Azovstal plant, but ISW cannot confirm any specific advances. Likely widespread civilian resistance to the Russian occupation may additionally be disrupting previously announced Russian plans to conduct a Victory Day exhibition in Mariupol.

• There were no significant changes on the southern axis in the last 24 hours.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

• The Ukrainian counteroffensive along a broad arc north and east of Kharkiv city took further terrain and will likely push Russian forces out of tube artillery range of the city in the coming days. The ability—and willingness—of the Ukrainian military to concentrate the forces in Kharkiv necessary to conduct this operation indicates Ukrainian confidence in repelling ongoing Russian attacks with their existing forces in the region.

• Russian forces did not make any progress on the Izyum axis. Ukrainian forces continued to repel Russian attacks on the Izyum axis in the last 24 hours, with Kharkiv Oblast civilian leadership reporting that Ukrainian forces inflicted heavy casualties on Russian forces on the outskirts of Barinkove. Russian forces around Izyum remain stalled and additional scattered reinforcements are unlikely to enable renewed advances.

• Russian forces likely secured small gains on the outskirts of Severodonetsk in the last 24 hours but are unlikely to successfully surround the town.

• Russian forces continued assaults on the Azovstal plant, but ISW cannot confirm any specific advances. Likely widespread civilian resistance to the Russian occupation may additionally be disrupting previously announced Russian plans to conduct a Victory Day exhibition in Mariupol.

• There were no significant changes on the southern axis in the last 24 hours.

“ The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) is a United States–based think tank founded in 2007 by Kimberly Kagan

…


In 2013, Kagan called for arms and equipment to be supplied to "moderate" rebels, with the hope that a state "friendly to the United States [would emerge] in the wake of Assad."


That tells you everything, warmongers with no regard for civilian life, wanting a decade long civil war.

You could not see propaganda from reality even if your life depended on it Whiskey. Guess your name is a reference to you being drunk all the time

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

“ The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) is a United States–based think tank founded in 2007 by Kimberly Kagan
…
In 2013, Kagan called for arms and equipment to be supplied to "moderate" rebels, with the hope that a state "friendly to the United States [would emerge] in the wake of Assad."

That tells you everything, warmongers with no regard for civilian life, wanting a decade long civil war.

The pure irony. You say of these reports "Warmongers with no regard for civilian life", did you forget Putin clearly planted civil war seeds with the Russia puppet Yanukovich 12 years ago? And now Russia invades a nation who didn't deserve to be attacked, by an established dictatorship led by a lying, former KGB psychopath. You haven't done much reading on Putin. If 1% of the things about him are true, he's an absolute monster. Not even going to start that list here.

I'm sorry this legitimate report made you sad. Would you prefer the time tested gold standard of misinformation, the Kremlin for your news? The pro-Russian Telegrams, whose recent media are either low quality, dated reposts, or Ukrainian footage they take credit for. RIA Novosti. Interfax. The latter two renowned international jokes. One of the few things the world agrees upon.

If this was a different universe and I posted something positive about how Russians are making great progress, with their amazingly intelligent and modern military, you wouldn't have questioned it at all. "That states everything".

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

You could not see propaganda from reality even if your life depended on it Whiskey. Guess your name is a reference to you being drunk all the time

If you can't figure out my username and its reference to a movie which started out as a book by Robert Heinlein, that's not my problem. You disagreed with a respected organization known for their accuracy. "That states everything". The ISW is still a thing because current policy makers and military leaders (not just American) know it's accurate non-bullshit with a great track record.

By the way nice move omitting Kagan's criticism of Obama and Trump policy. Which is well known in military circles. It's almost as if, the ISW has.... non-partisan roots. I can understand why you didn't want to post that part. Quote mining.

Be prepared for more bad news in the near future, it won't stop and I'll be here to remind you.

[pastinho]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ine-war-latest

The Great Neo-Soviet Encyclopedia for Katsaps only

[Faust]

They had every reason to destroy Ukraine. You will kill your neighbour if your worst enemy who tried to fuck with your money for years, is arming that neighbour for years, training him, and making friends with all your other neighbours, having them point guns at your door and windows.

I am pretty sure there is a law in America that gives you the right to kill your neighbour if the above situation applies

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

They had every reason to destroy Ukraine. You will kill your neighbour if your worst enemy who tried to fuck your money for years, is arming that neighbour for years, training him, and making friends with all your other neighbours, having them point guns at your door and windows.

Russia's isolationism is self-inflicted and you know it. And a government trying to fuck another government doesn't mean mass amounts of civilians need to die. Stop saying stupid things to justify an untenable position, you're not doing yourself a favor. Literally days ago you were advocating for use of a tactical nuke. Disgusting.

The reason why NATO countries are anxious about Russia isn't because we want to invade them. That's absurd. It's because Putin and his like are fucking insane. And he clearly wishes to be remembered and make his mark on Russian society.

Fuck Russia and the horse they rode in on. Even if your ridiculous claims were true, that means invading Ukraine is justifiable? Perfectly good to go? False and you know it. Here you are whining about "propaganda" and you're literally conveying line-for-line Putin propaganda. Do you even realize this.

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I am pretty sure there is a law in America that gives you the right to kill your neighbour if the above situation applies

The "castle law" is state applicable and not sure what you're on about killing neighbors. It depends on where you live. In my state, if someone invades my house with the intent to commit a felony, they can be shot and killed. I have a wife and young son in my house, how would you react?

In several months/couple years when all this crap is fully realized, you're going to be denying you believed any of this shit. Right down the memory hole. And considering where in Europe you are, I certainly wouldn't be advertising anything pro-Russian.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

When a country bans all independent media, that's a sign that what they're about to do is fucking evil. Go ahead and say otherwise. How you can't see this is absolutely remarkable. You know better.