[Zerodark]

fuck that Part of me does not think he is bluffing with the threat of nukes now I mean least it will be a quick death

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Zerodark ↗

ok so tell me how you know? and how do you know 100% that these weren't civs that were cold and found them coats? how do you know they were not spy's for Ukraine? how do you know the age the list goes on fact is whisky you don't the only thing you like to do is clam you know and that all you footage is perfect and all others must be fake!

Putting my response in here.

I don't know 100% but I do believe the story you cited for that photo is not true. Why you ask. Because aside from the story, look at the photo. Russian soldiers, probably LNR/DNR guys as everyone knows their gear and clothing is inconsistent. I'm not trashing you but it looks like you read the Russian TG story and formulated the picture around the story and not the other way around. TG channels regardless of what side they are on can be very intentionally deceptive. Some more than others. When I find Ukranian stuff like that with a questionable story that's too convenient for propaganda, I don't post it.

Is it possible these guys are civilians? Yes. Is that likely? No. Is it possible it will snow tomorrow morning where I live? Yes. Is that likely? No. So I won't be going to bed tonight thinking I'll need to scrape my windshield before work in the morning. I didn't mean to give you the impression I was 100% positive, because I'm not, just going with my experienced gut because the most simple explanation is usually the correct one. One of the concepts of "Occam's razor". I've been on Russian channels for a while, I know how they like to bullshit, and certain Ukranian ones do it too.

Second, the footage I post isn't mine. And you haven't participated on here enough to know that when I'm wrong about something, I own up to it like a man and admit it, unlike some people (the late silver bullet for example, was completely incapable of conceding anything, no matter how small, the man was nuts and probably a complete narcissist).

I have also at times posted debunks of Ukranian bullshit. One of them today, another last week when a few channels were claiming a battalions were rushing towards Yampil/Zarichne.

Edit: Sorry about the essay

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Stefan Korshak

Day 203 - Some light relief, Looking at Lyman, Feeding the cannon
Hi FB!
It’s been a pretty intense week and a half, so it was almost inevitable as the Kharkiv offensive started winding down that the wits and cheap shot artists got their turn to take a swing at the Russian Army.
Image number one is a (far from flattering) image of General Valery Zaluzhny, and a question and answer joke:
Q: Valery, in your opinion, what does the Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) have to do, in order to defeat the Russian Army?
A: Well, the first thing you have to do is catch them!
Lead image number two is pulled from the “Real War” Telegram channel, which devotes itself to Ukrainian military information and at times doings in Russia. The channel’s writers dredged up recent statement by Chechnya strongman Razman Kadyrov on panic-mongering and the Russian military.
Kadyrov said: “I shall calm down the most antic and sceptical comments. In the course of the prosecution of the Special Military Operation. We have fallen back at no time, and nowhere. This (reports of RF withdrawals) is all inventions and western provocations. Don’t let yourself be fooled. There are such things as tactics and strategy.Our troops have the most subtle (tactics and strategy of any army).
To which Rear War ripostes: The Russians have such a subtle military strategy, you can’t even see it!
The Kharkiv offensive:
It looks like the pursuit of the Russian forces from the Izium pocket via the Oskil’ gap is over. The clearest proof that there were no more RF troops left in the vicinity came today when President Zelensky showed up in Izium, met some troops, handed out medals, viewed the damage, spoke with civilians, and generally showed the world that the UAF is back for good. Image attached.
In the far north-east of Kharkiv province, it appears the Russians have left and the Ukrainians are following up, carefully, very much the same way that they returned to the border and cleared formerly occupied villages in Kyiv and Chernihiv regions in April. More video is cropping up of numerous RF prisoners of war, but overall it appears that the Ukrainians gathered in not thousands of RF fighters, but hundreds, my WAG estimate between 200-500.
The price the RF paid to get its troops mostly out of the trap was by abandoning any vehicle that couldn’t move, mountains (seriously) of ammunition and supplies, and a lot of other vehicles that maybe were runners but there just wasn’t people to drive them. The numbers are still climbing, and it’s hard to tell how much of it is serviceable, and of course the RF makes about six types of tanks and probably three times that armor personnel carriers.
But the bottom line is that as a result of the Kharkiv offensive the UAF certainly and very conservatively captured a full mechanized infantry brigade’s worth of heavy weapons, and once broken vehicles easily fixed are factored in, probably two, and possibly three. That’s something like 40-120 tanks, 120-360 armored personnel carriers, and normal complements of artillery, trucks, anti-aircraft, and the rest of it.
Morale impact on Russia aside, the Kharkiv offensive had two real effects on the war: it liberated (so far) about 5,000 square km. of territory, and it gave the UAF a heavy weapons injection unmatched by any nation, not even the United States. We should start seeing the effects of this plus-up in about two months. Image of about a half-company of freshly-captured RF tanks, attached
The fighting
As noted, most sources are saying that in the north-east of Kharkiv region the Russians have skedaddled and it’s now a question of how much time it will take the UAF patrols to reach the border. I have information more than one of the special operations units is being pulled of the line, and the main combat units in sector are, by and large, rearming, refitting, holding positions and getting ready for future missions. Meanwhile, there are some indicators the UAF is gearing up for a push of some sort into Donbass, and particularly northern Luhansk region. Map attached.
There are chronic reports from the RF media side that Russian units are still holding out in some part of Kupiansk and some part of Oskil, and that the sides are still trading fire. This appears to be surrounded RF units or maybe just individuals who have, for reasons best known to themselves, decided to keep fighting even though routes back to Russia are absolutely cut.
The heaviest ground combat at the moment, reportedly, was reported on the south flank of the UAF offensive in the Donetsk region town Lyman. According to information sources from on both sides, a full-on infantry battle was in progress with RF defenses stiffened by men from the BARS military police unit. The BARS policemen were under heavy UAF artillery fire but holding out “bravely” and RF artillery units under “devilish counter-battery fire”, the pro-Russia Typychny Donetsk reported.
Lyman’s importance as a road nexus controlling traffic into and out of the thickly-forested Sviati Hory National Park, and a place the UAF might pass troops north and east into Donbass without having to worry about getting force across the Siviersky Donets River, is fairly obvious. Serhiy Haidai, head of the Luhansk regional defense command, confirmed in a statement neither side has full control in Lyman and that the town“ is key for our region, we need to fight more here.”
He said RF forces had abandoned the nearby towns Kreminna and Starobilsk and that UAF partisans had taken over there. He offered no evidence to support the claim and RF sources like Denis Pushilin, head of the unrecognized “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”), said that actually all RF forces were standing fast. Reports appeared that actually the residents of Kreminna had liberated themselves, but then the Russians came and again they were occupied.
Another wave of reports in the RF media alleged the Ukrainians were preparing a counter-offensive operation in the central Donbas, targeting the towns Severodonetsk, Marynka, Lysychansk and Piski. There also were reports of UAF ground attacks against Marynka and Belohorivka, with unclear results.
In the southern sector, running from the Zaporizhia region to the Kherson region, as elsewhere, saw mostly artillery exchanges and relatively few ground battles. Ground fighting appeared to be taking place at crossing sites on the Inhulets River, particularly at the riverside town Davydiv Brod. Video and an eyewitness account to Kyiv Post said that UAF units were using military bridging to cross the river but RF defenses further south were still organized and holding their positions. Two maps attached to show the probable fron line trace at the moment.
A second (or third) push was still in progress straight along the Mykolaiv-Kherson road, and according to JCS the town Kisilevka came under Ukrainian control on Wednesday.
See map for that.
On Monday a spokeswoman for Ukraine’s Joint Forces Command South (JFCS) claimed talks were in progress for a mass surrender of RF troops across the southern sector, and that RF troops were heading back into Crimea from Melitopol. On Wednesday, RF units appeared still to be in their positions opposite UAF forces in the southern sector, and if there were reports of large numbers of RF POWs reaching UAF lines in the south, I didn’t see them. Twitter map of southern sector front tract attached, the black crosses are not pirate treasure but where the UAF has taken down bridges.
Bam Bam
The Joint Forces South (JFS) today announced that, thanks to recent advances, the “entire Kherson region is now under UAF fires”. This is a little disingenuous because we know well the UAF has some kind of missile system, or just possible re-engineered drones but missiles are by far more likely - that don’t just appear able to hit Crimea and Russian Taganrog and Belgorod, they have done it, repeatedly. I think the message here is, “HIMARS range”.
There was over the last two days the traditional drumbeat of HIMARS launches, but I’ll draw your attention rather to a graphic published by an Interior Ministry official named Anton Geraschenko, who is one of the most prolific sources of reports from the UAF side, and yesterday put out a map of UAF strikes over the last week, taking place out of the range of known UAF weapons. Other sources confirmed most of it - this bombardment campaign of Ukraine’s is systematic and it reaches at least twice the range of HIMARS.
This means that if Ukraine is asking the US for American long-range missiles, it’s not because Ukraine can’t hit those targets itself. It means, Ukraine wants to hit more targets, harder.
On the RF side the Russians shifted away from the Kharkiv power grid and hit Krivoi Rih today, seemingly breaking a dam on the Inhulets River. This may have downstream effects the RF military geniuses haven’t thought through, as the Inhulets is a major barrier between the UAF and a big ground attack in the south. Video attached of the flooding and Krivoi Rih citizens buying water. Late reports said the strike was carried out by a T-95MS bomber firing a top-of-the-line X-101 cruise missile.
Partisans
On Monday partisans attempted to murder the rector of Kherson State University Tatyana Tomilina (image). Three people were injured including her (slightly), one man died. The bomb was set near the entrance to her house. RF media called it a terror attack against an innocent educator.
Also on the subject of education, in Kharkiv region, Ukrainian police and volunteers following up behind advancing troops have been going through school records, and found that some administrators, while under occupation, in some schools agreed/followed orders to ban Ukrainian language education and Ukrainian literature. This, said, Irina Vereshchuk, Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine, was possibly treasonous behavior punishable by up to a twelve year jail term. Pro-Russia commentators like Anatoly Shary (writing from outside Ukraine) said this is exactly the kind of Nazi repressions Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent.
Stuff for Ukraine
France, a lower-profile but nonetheless solid source of military equipment to Ukraine, annonced that it would send more of its excellent (ACS) CAESAR howitzer systems to Ukraine. The word is there will 6-12, which if maxed out would eventually put 24 CAESARS in Ukrainian hands. Unlike some wealthy European countries (see below) the French are not screwing around with obsolete equipment: this is France’s premier artillery piece and every one sent to Ukraine is one taken from a front-line French unit. French Minister of Foreign Affairs Catherine Colonna made the announcement during a Kyiv visit.
Similarly, Slovakia announced it will send 8 self-propelled guns Zuzana 2 to Ukraine. Source of the news was Yaroslav Nay, Minister of Defense of Slovakia, during HIS visit to Kyiv. This weapon is effectively the Slovakian version of the CAESAR, close to but not quite as efficient, and expensive, as the French weapon. It wasn’t clear whether these guns were from Slovakian stocks or were being built, but, the report said the gun is one of the few modern arms actively manufactured by the Slovak military-industrial complex.
No “Stuff for Ukraine” section would really be complete without an item about the Germans and foot-dragging, and certainly Berlin has delivered. Yesterday news came out that the German company Rheinmetall has not only prepped 16 Marder infantry combat vehicles for Ukraine, they are sitting at the factory, ready to go, Berlin has been told the infantry fighting vehicles need only to be shipped, but the Scholz government isn’t issuing the export documents. All this from the ARD television channel. Yet another Marder image attached.
Looking for cannon fodder
Speaking of hanging on to bodies, attached is an order from the Crimean local government, effective immediately, no military-aged man is allowed to leave Crimea by the Kerch bridge, unless the local draft board OKs it and he promises in writing to return at a specific date. The word is this is to prevent a mass exodus of young men when the UAF gets close enough to Crimea to provoke local authorities to start conscripting people in the streets, as has been the situation for at least three months in Luhansk and Donetsk regions. Image of the order attached.
A possible precursor may already be in progress in Melitopol where, according to reports from both RF and Ukrainian sources, men are leaving the town because of rumors that anyone holding a Russian passport, will soon be subject to the draft. See video of nice government lady explaining it's time to defend Russia.
Finally, the assumption that Russia has unlimited ammunition notwithstanding, news reports surfaced yesterday that Kremlin arms buyers are calling all across Central Asia looking to find, particularly, 203mm shells for the heavy Pion gun, engines for BMP armored personnel carriers. In Tajikistan, besides hardware, Russian recruiters are reportedly trying to find people to join the Russian army on contract.
If you've read to the end here are two feel-good videos, first a bunch of UAF guys using the mark one human muscle system to recover an abandoned RF vehicle, and second, a horse very happy at being liberated by the UAF.

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Sorry for the term paper, but you know he don't seem to make up shit and is a pretty good writer...

[AnonX93]

Originally Posted by Zerodark ↗

ah the one I'm in needed a spoofed number I mean let's see what happens I just want this shit over tbh I do want to visit russia to see my partners mum and dad but I worry if I go I might go missing coz I am a Brit

The fact you might go missing in Russia should be enough to hate them…no?

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Finally! I wish I could go sit in his classes. German version up too for all you nazis.

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[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Strong probability that stance will age like milk in a hot car on Venus

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

I realize we disagree about this It's fine

Translation: Bucha will be seen as a accepted example of Russian war crimes and disbelief in it may become extremely, extremely unpopular.

Not advisable you advertise that in public..

Might be equivalent to denying the holocaust ever happened?

Regardless if Russia will ever admit it or be held accountable for it...

Regardless of whether those Ukrainian citizens bound, blindfolded and tortured each other and shot each other in the streets leaving themselves out to rot for weeks...

Regardless if all of those dead people buried in mass graves and rotting in the streets were all the best actors that ever existed...

Regardless if Russia frolicked up on the scene finding all those dead bodies and chose to leave them there for weeks without reporting it and carry on with their invasion...

Regardless if those dead bodies in advanced stages of decomposition were placed there after Russia left and the satellite imagery proving they'd been there for weeks was wrong...

Regardless if someone else planted some of those dead bodies with Russian booby traps...

Russia should not be in Ukraine.