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If that guy survives the war he might not last terribly long.
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“-Let’s film the torture of a POW
-Let’s film the execution of a POW
-Let’s publish this video on the internet”

I am 95% sure nobody is going to run his squad through facial recognition. Especially not the ones wearing blue bands on this fucking dating profile lol
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Again so much anger over this. Ukrainians did this and continue to do this countless times to young Russian soldiers who then commit suicide after they return home without genitalia and missing fingers. I have seen interviews with Russian nurses crying and explaining what they deal with after prison exchanges where Russian soldiers are returned mutilated. The difference is Ukrainians don’t film it!

So spare me the witch hunt bullshit. That is of course if any of this information can be verified in the first instance.
Silver just accept that other people think different about this, it's part of what makes us human, different perspectives, if others' emotions piss you off/trigger you so much you're probably going to have a hard time in life
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If that guy survives the war he might not last terribly long.
A video of mockery of a prisoner of war in Ukrainian camouflage appeared in one of the Russian Telegram channels. Two other Russian-speaking soldiers castrated the prisoner with a clerical knife.

The Russians have several Telegram channels where they publish photos and videos of killed or captured Ukrainian soldiers. On July 28, the specified video appeared on one of them.

It is difficult to identify the scene. It shows two soldiers, speaking to each other in unaccented Russian, abusing a prisoner of war in Ukrainian camouflage with yellow and blue patches and tied hands.

Also nearby is a car with a capital letter Z on the hood — a symbol of Russian equipment in the occupied territories.

One of those who taunted the captive had what looked like a cowboy hat. Twitter users found a Russian soldier wearing the exact same hat. He was spotted on some videos of propagandists from occupied Severodonetsk.

In addition, the Russian soldier from Severodonetsk has the same bracelet as the one who mocked the Ukrainian prisoner.

"Babel" transferred the video to the Department of Supervision in Criminal Proceedings Regarding Crimes Committed in the Conditions of Armed Conflict, the Office of the Prosecutor General.

Human rights activists emphasize that cutting off organs is the most obvious example of torture, which is always condemned by the world community and prohibited by the Geneva Convention. Therefore, in this case it is obvious that it is a war crime.

"There are no excuses for torture. It is forbidden to use them as repression, for the sake of revenge, obtaining information, etc.

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court calls torture a war crime, clarifying that the purpose of inflicting pain or suffering on the victim is also important for this crime," explained Dmytro Koval, an expert in international law from the NGO Truth Hounds.

He emphasizes that almost all countries of the world have undertaken to investigate such crimes. Therefore, it can be considered that torture is such a crime that it is almost impossible to hide from punishment.

"The video, which was circulated on the Internet, indisputably documents a case of torture. The perpetrator faces punishment for committing a war crime. As well as his commanders, if they do not take appropriate measures to bring the executor to justice," added Koval.
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“hi mom, you know how I always call you letting you know how the army is losing and ukraine is winning right? Well apparently all phonecalls are intercepted and have often been viewed as “evidence” by the ‘international community’ for years now, so allow me to verbally demonstrate several of the war crimes I have been witness to, i know you like that shit mom so I will tell it to you in full detail!”

Also russian general:
“Nobody gets to have or use mobile phones, unless you want to report war crimes to your family members”
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“hi mom, you know how I always call you letting you know how the army is losing and ukraine is winning right? Well apparently all phonecalls are intercepted and have often been viewed as “evidence” by the ‘international community’ for years now, so allow me to verbally demonstrate several of the war crimes I have been witness to, i know you like that shit mom so I will tell it to you in full detail!”

Also russian general:
“Nobody gets to have or use mobile phones, unless you want to report war crimes to your family members”
No one said anything about ALL phonecalls being intercepted.

Also that link is from 3 months ago so things maybe have been improved from Russian side but:
How are the Ukrainians intercepting these calls?

This is probably happening in several ways. But at the most basic level, some Russian troops have apparently been far too casual in their communications.

The Russians brought their own cellphones into Ukraine. When the Ukrainians figured this out, they cut off Russian phone numbers from the Ukrainian network — so the Russian phones stopped working.

Russian troops then began seizing cellphones from Ukrainian civilians, according to Ukraine's State Service of Special Communications and Information Protection.

"We call on Ukrainians whose mobile phones were taken away by representatives of enemy troops to inform the operator as soon as possible," the Ukrainian agency said in a statement last month.

Ukrainian civilians have complied, and this let the Ukrainian government know which phones were stolen by the Russians — and effectively became listening devices for the Ukrainians.

Dmitri Alperovitch, a cyber expert who heads the Silverado Policy Accelerator, says this is just one way the Ukrainians are tapping into Russian communications. The overall result, he said, has been a huge Ukrainian advantage in intelligence.

"The intercepted phone calls are just invaluable in getting a sense into what the Russians are thinking, the state of their morale," said Alperovitch. "There was an intercepted phone call where the Russian officer was saying how half of his troops have frostbite on their feet, how they don't have any hot stoves for food. They're sleeping in trenches."

The Ukrainians are getting significant intelligence help from the United States and other NATO countries, according to U.S. officials.

Most of this assistance remains secret, but some is easily visible on social media.

"If you look at the flight radar right now, almost constantly, you see U.S. Air Force planes that are flying near the Ukrainian border, collecting intelligence," said Alperovitch.

The U.S. planes are not entering Ukrainian airspace but are nearby over the skies of Poland, Romania and elsewhere in the region.

"I'm sure that they're collecting radio communications and other forms of intelligence that they then pass on to the Ukrainians that is invaluable in their prosecution of this fight," said Alperovitch.

Q. Is this intelligence sharing new, or has this happened before?

There's history here, and it's dripping with irony.

Russia waged a major cyberattack in Ukraine in 2015, taking down parts of the electricity grid, and then Moscow interfered in the U.S. presidential election in 2016.

These Russian actions prompted the U.S. and Ukraine to work together to counter Russian cyber measures.

NSA Director Gen. Paul Nakasone doesn't say much in public. But he testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee about U.S. cooperation with Ukraine on March 10, just a couple of weeks after the war started.

"The intelligence that we're sharing is accurate. It's relevant and it's actionable," Nakasone told the committee.

CIA Director William Burns offered a similar assessment in a rare public speech earlier this month.

"We have been equally committed to rapid and effective intelligence sharing with our Ukrainian partners throughout the fighting and for months beforehand," Burns said.

Putin probably doesn't appreciate this irony, but his cyber actions against the U.S. and Ukraine several years ago helped forge a partnership that's now being used very aggressively to undermine his war in Ukraine.
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No one said anything about ALL phonecalls being intercepted.

Also that link is from 3 months ago so things maybe have been improved from Russian side but:
That is amazing, so the soldier steal Ukrainian phones and use them to self report war crimes. It sounds simple but it probably means it is true.

Still it is pretty convenient but okay, thanks for sharing, always
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Yikes.
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That is amazing, so the soldier steal Ukrainian phones and use them to self report war crimes. It sounds simple but it probably means it is true.

Still it is pretty convenient but okay, thanks for sharing, always
There's a Telegram site out there, can't remember which one, which publishes the phone #'s of Russian servicemen in Ukraine. They pretty much all have Ukranian country codes.
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