[Faust]

It is easy to make such claims. Anyway if you Google search and limit results to any period BEFORE 1-1-2020 for example, you will find all western en Jewish media has 1000s of articles regarding Ukraine being the most corrupt country and having holocaust deniers and SS sympathisers, and nazis in important positions like army or mayor.

Your own government sanctioned media claimed this in any period before 2020

[pervM]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

1. Who from opposition ran away and been chased down by government?

Aleksei Navalnyi, Roman Anin, Vladimir Kara-Murza to name a few. Theres not a single neutral media left in Russia. Russia's Press Freedom index is on the bottom 20 of the world:

https://rsf.org/en/index

Yellow Vest riots were demonstrations of the working class against rising cost of living. And they actually worked, changes were made in many countries. Its not comparable to Russia openly attacking political parties not supporting Putin.

2. Homosexuals is just a bad example. You have to look at the culture in general. If It didn’t get ban I’m pretty sure Russia would have another demonstration against it. There is no need for this propaganda on TV or in schools.

Terrible argument. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, that includes speech and things people don't like. Your mentality is a perfect example of why EU put those sanctions on Russia in the first place. You guys are simply not civilized enough yet.

4. Russia did, so did Ukraine.

Whataboutism does not work here, you claimed Russia has freedom of speech, I proved you wrong. Ukraine is not a very democratic country either, which is why it hasn't been allowed to join EU. Just because countries like China are even worse about freedom of speech doesn't mean Russia gets off the hook.

When I said free speech I meant regular citizens and not some big political games. US was on a hunt for citizen of Australia even, why? What’s going on with project Veritas?.

Freedom of speech is all-encompassing. You can talk with your buddies about pretty much anything because you're too insignificant for the police to care about you. But go ahead and try to publicly state that Ukraine war is a mistake and you'll be in jail in no time. With the new law in place you can get 15 years just for disagreeing with the government.

The chinese think the same, they laugh at people saying they don't have freedom to say what they want, until they say something the government doesn't like, then they stop laughing:

What about project Veritas

What about them? They just released a bombshell leak of Twitter CEO openly boasting how they don't believe in freedom of speech either. If O'Keefe would try to have a Project Veritas in Russia, he would already be exiled, or have a mysterious accident on the balcony.

[pervM]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Freedom convoy anyone?
There is no freedom of speech in America, similar to China. If you claim otherwise, either you do not know what the term actually means, or you are just straight up lying.

Freedom Convoy was Canada. I suggest you take your time to do some proper research before opening your mouth again about a topic you don't understand.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

Freedom Convoy was Canada. I suggest you take your time to do some proper research before opening your mouth again about a topic you don't understand.

If you gave your (positive) opinion on the freedom convoy, lesbians would be on the phone with your boss having you fired in less than an hour.

Is that freedom of speech?

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

Freedom Convoy was Canada. I suggest you take your time to do some proper research before opening your mouth again about a topic you don't understand.

He knows not what he says - purely reactionary and just countering because he doesn't like it. He literally just said there's no freedom of speech in America. I can go outside, start saying all sorts of obsceneties to a crowd, about Biden, or anyone else I want and I guarantee you no one is going to arrest me or charge me with any crime. At worst I'd get into an argument with someone who disagrees with me. I can go on any social media platform and call Biden a creepy old man who sniffs children. Nothing will happen (I've done it more than once). I've literally protested in front of the capitol building in my hometown against the passage of a liberal law, under a democrat governor and guess what nothing happened to any of us.

Try doing any of this in Russia. Not. Going. To happen. Just be quiet already you're being silly the both of you, you're just countering and living in a fantasyland where Russia is awesome and the west is Satan. If you can't admit a cold obvious fact like the absence of speech rights in Russia then you're going to be dishonest about everything else.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Suddenly Russia cares about Africa. I'm sure these are honorable intentions and not just about money to pay for war

[Rfneimad]

Ameritard here, I have the freedom to actually be what you guys call Nazis here. I just can't cross the line and start actually killing jews, I mean I kinda helped kill one once but it wasn't cause she was Jewish. That is freedom of speech. So if retarded Ukraines wanna play Nazi, as long as they don't seize power and misbehave it is ok.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

- More batshit insane Kremlin propaganda. The LNR/DNR is "fighting for their land" but the Ukranians fight for completely mysterious reasons, it's not even their land! You can't make this trash up

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Suddenly Russia cares about Africa. I'm sure these are honorable intentions and not just about money to pay for war

Yes, they have for awhile now. Anyone here heard of the Wagner Group? Kremlin-backed, private military "training" in central African countries.

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

- More batshit insane Kremlin propaganda. The LNR/DNR is "fighting for their land" but the Ukranians fight for completely mysterious reasons, it's not even their land! You can't make this trash up

I really like her, my news lady fetish is slowly going Slavic after 25 years of mexican channels.