[kellyhound]

The Moskva had a single main air defence radar, a 3P41 Volna phased array to guide S300 missiles. Problem is, it only has a 180 degree field of vision.

360 degree coverage is provided by MR-800 Voshkod/Top Pair 3-D long range air search radars for shorter-range SA-8 missiles. But it's likely that in the storm, they couldn't distinguish the sea-skimming Neptunes from the wavetops.

The Ukrainians purposefully got the Moskva to point its best radar in the wrong direction by distracting it using a Bayraktar TB-2 drone while the Neptunes sneaked under the coverage of the other radars.

Sounds plausible.

Originally Posted by houseoftechno ↗

They are also claiming about 400 dead from crew and additional naval marines billeted on the ship for special operations. So about 100 to 150 survivors.

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Nikolai Evmenov and the command of the Black Sea Fleet held a meeting with the crew of the guards missile cruiser Moskva in Sevastopol.

[mileslong]

i've got my own tin foil hat theories.

aside from that.. this video was relevant to the topic.

[houseoftechno]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Nikolai Evmenov and the command of the Black Sea Fleet held a meeting with the crew of the guards missile cruiser Moskva in Sevastopol.

Ah, so that meeting took place 04-16-2022 with the surviving crew.

“Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Admiral Nikolai Evmenov and the command of the Black Sea Fleet held a meeting with the crew of the Moskva missile cruiser in Sevastopol,” the agency said in a Telegram message.

Evmenov said that the officers, midshipmen and sailors of the cruiser would continue to serve in the Navy.

On April 14, the cruiser Moskva sank while being towed in a storm.
Source: russiart2022-04-16

I was wondering if Evmenov was the Admiral who went down with the ship!

[CockGobbler]

First known photo of the ship while damaged (according to twitter)

[duntez]

Originally Posted by CockGobbler ↗

First known photo of the ship while damaged (according to twitter)

It’s not it lol

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by CockGobbler ↗

First known photo of the ship while damaged (according to twitter)

I was under the impression that it was hit and sank at night. Did the Twitter post give a source?

[CockGobbler]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

I was under the impression that it was hit and sank at night. Did the Twitter post give a source?

Here's where I got it. There's a few various tweets under the main one that discuss identifiers and have secondary shots of the damage.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...22991707447302

<edit> Jack Poso was a military intel officer in the Navy, so I don't think he would 'guesstimate' on this.

[houseoftechno]

Adding pics more from that Twitter thread and a few others.

Two are file pics posted by Jack Posobiec for comparison. He points out the characteristic red deck and I noticed the aft deck is cut down the same.

[houseoftechno]

[mileslong]

It's pretty much confirmed at this point that those pics are the ship in question. multiple SME's agree. I figure that more footage/pics will trickle out as the days pass.

It is astonishing to me though.. during this propaganda war.. that there hasn't been ANY footage of this. It's a major blow to the russian ego... i find it very hard to believe that footage doesn't exist.