[PatriceIs60]

Originally Posted by Steve ↗

Hamas doesn't distinguish between Israeli soldiers and civilians either.

They purposely killed 1200 civilians, they did it on purpose. There can be no excuses for that.

I understand that and no there is no excuse. I'm speaking of the innocent men, women, and children murdered by Israel and Hamas. My support for the people in Gaza is for them, not for terrorists who use innocents as human shields, and calling them collateral damage. Hamas is a terrorist organization who doesn't give AF about human lives

[Steve]

Originally Posted by PatriceIs60 ↗

I understand that and no there is no excuse. I'm speaking of the innocent men, women, and children murdered by Israel and Hamas. My support for the people in Gaza is for them, not for terrorists who use innocents as human shields, and calling them collateral damage. Hamas is a terrorist organization who doesn't give AF about human lives

I know they don't care, they murdered those people to provoke the Israeli government into a response, they did it to promote their ideologies.

They knew Israel would hit Gaza hard and, therefore, become the bad guys.

Innocent Gazans are being killed, starved and made homeless, which is what Hamas wants.

It's always civilians who pay the harshest price in war.

[Rikbikboo]

[QUOTE=goatstroker;8490574]Over your opinion? Yes.[/QUOT


Over my opinion lol. I am not a reporter. I read the news and thats it but i make my opinion based on the evidence put forward by the numerous reports online and on the tv. And its quite funny because we have already seen how Israel tells untruthes to fit their own narrative and then backtrack when they realise that after thorough investigation that they have been caught out.

So why would i believe that when time and again it is shown they are lying.

I have seen israeli soldiers shoot an unarmed child standing outside his home doing nothing.

Two soldiers whilst laughing throw grenades into tents housing refugees.

Reports and footags of ambulances being blown up and then buried and the subsequent lies produced to cover it up.

I have also witnessed the same as many other millions across the world the indiscriminate bombing and destruction of over 95% of gaza

The numbers of women and children and elderly killed also show evidence of it.

We now have reports that almost every child is suffering from malnutrition because there is simply not enough food or water being allowed in.

There comes a point when even the coldest of us have to say what the fuck is going on and this needs to end.

I would think arrest warrants against world leaders are not issued without the issuer being sure of why they are issuing them. The fact its not in our town or our country is what makes it so easy to just not really worry about it.

God forbid none of us have to go through what those people are going through and any reasonable person would think that what we are seeing is not acceptable.

Do I believe everything the israeli leader says?. Not for a second. He should be ashamed of what he is ordering his forces to do. I guess its another example of people who will just say "i was only following orders"

But once this is over some will have to answer.

But youre right dont trust my opinion but also question the explanations given by Israel, because as it keeps being shown again and again the opinion and truths and excuses they keep giving are at times not even worthy of using the paper to wipe your arse on.

[goatstroker]

[QUOTE=Rikbikboo;8492645]

Originally Posted by goatstroker ↗

Over your opinion? Yes.[/QUOT


Over my opinion lol. I am not a reporter. I read the news and thats it but i make my opinion based on the evidence put forward by the numerous reports online and on the tv. And its quite funny because we have already seen how Israel tells untruthes to fit their own narrative and then backtrack when they realise that after thorough investigation that they have been caught out.

So why would i believe that when time and again it is shown they are lying.

I have seen israeli soldiers shoot an unarmed child standing outside his home doing nothing.

Two soldiers whilst laughing throw grenades into tents housing refugees.

Reports and footags of ambulances being blown up and then buried and the subsequent lies produced to cover it up.

I have also witnessed the same as many other millions across the world the indiscriminate bombing and destruction of over 95% of gaza

The numbers of women and children and elderly killed also show evidence of it.

We now have reports that almost every child is suffering from malnutrition because there is simply not enough food or water being allowed in.

There comes a point when even the coldest of us have to say what the fuck is going on and this needs to end.

I would think arrest warrants against world leaders are not issued without the issuer being sure of why they are issuing them. The fact its not in our town or our country is what makes it so easy to just not really worry about it.

God forbid none of us have to go through what those people are going through and any reasonable person would think that what we are seeing is not acceptable.

Do I believe everything the israeli leader says?. Not for a second. He should be ashamed of what he is ordering his forces to do. I guess its another example of people who will just say "i was only following orders"

But once this is over some will have to answer.

But youre right dont trust my opinion but also question the explanations given by Israel, because as it keeps being shown again and again the opinion and truths and excuses they keep giving are at times not even worthy of using the paper to wipe your arse on.

If you'd like to send me a private message on here, I'd be happy to discuss this matter, your position and my position... however, this isn't a discussion thread and if you read the rules of this thread you'd see that. You messaging me on here trying to argue your point is just baiting me in to break the rules, just so I can prove you wrong.

[Rikbikboo]

It says "ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VIII" which is exactly what I am doing, discussing.

Goatstroker mate, if you can prove me wrong then im happy to stand corrected.

As far as I am concerned the continual Bombing and killing of elderly,sick,women& children is wrong and tantamount to warcrimes. I am sure the arrest warrent wasnt issued in error.

I am only stating my view from what I have seen and read from various places. I dont support hamas what they did was abhorrent.

I write what I think, It is very clear to anyone that the course of action actioned upon by the Israelie government amounts to a war crime. Withholding food and water and basic medical supplies from a civilian population who are guilty of nothing but living in the area should no be acceptable to any civilised being.

I did not imagine two IDF soldiers filming themselves laughing as they through a grenade into tents, I didnt imagine a young boy being shot in the back for merely standing on his doorstep doing nothing. He isnt a terrorist hes a young child.

The doctors dragged out of hospital, beaten and tortured were not terrorists. has every hospital thats been razed been home to tunnels?.

Were the ambulances going out on call to find their collegues terrorists? No they were not. and yet they were still all killed and buried and it was almost covered up until some one questions it.

when you have all the latest weapons and tech it should not be hard to minimise civilian casualties.

This exercise isnt just to put an end to hamas its a controlled effort to wipe gaza off the map and remove those people once and for all from the the final piece land they that was palestine. When you look back at how the population has been treated years prior to this you can almost understand why.

My belief coming from what I have seen and read with my own eyes and ears makes me of the opinion that its a step too far. Its likely always been the intention of the IDF to wipe gaza and its people off the map for good.

The fact that the world has sat back and allowed it to happen is shameless and horrific to say the least.

The numbers when looked at clearly show a massive amount of elderly, women and children being killed and children starving.

By all means blow the place up. but have the decently to set aside a corner with food and aid so that all of those non combatents are safe and not living with the fear that a jdam is going to land outside at any moment. I believe it wouldnt be hard to do. but the IDF just dont want to. They are happy with the numbers they are killing.

The fact that world leaders are still standing by and allowing it to happen is dispicable. They should cease all weapons shipments and do more than simply protesting at the killing.

I hope that when its over should netty ever come to the uk that he is arrested ont he spot. It will never heppen thoguh because he is liekly never to leave the country again due to not wanting to be arrested and jailed for the disgusting things he has sanctioned.

No need for a private message although thankyou for the invitation.

I look forward to being enlightened and educated as to why I am wrong and will happily read any data or information you have to help change my position if its wrong.

This isnt about the why, its about the lies behind some of the attacks and killings that the idf puts out which it sticks with until there can be no avoiding the lies it tells and then it admits and gives that poor shitty rebuttal of. we will investigate and punish anyone resposible. Its complete and utter bollocks.

Treat people like humans there can be no excuse for the current treatment of the civilian population is gaza right now. none at all.

[goatstroker]

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

It says "ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VIII" which is exactly what I am doing, discussing.

Goatstroker mate, if you can prove me wrong then im happy to stand corrected.

I do believe this was moved to the discussion thread, per my statement... but thanks for playing.

As far as I am concerned the continual Bombing and killing of elderly,sick,women& children is wrong and tantamount to warcrimes. I am sure the arrest warrent wasnt issued in error.

I am only stating my view from what I have seen and read from various places. I dont support hamas what they did was abhorrent.

I write what I think, It is very clear to anyone that the course of action actioned upon by the Israelie government amounts to a war crime. Withholding food and water and basic medical supplies from a civilian population who are guilty of nothing but living in the area should no be acceptable to any civilised being.

I did not imagine two IDF soldiers filming themselves laughing as they through a grenade into tents, I didnt imagine a young boy being shot in the back for merely standing on his doorstep doing nothing. He isnt a terrorist hes a young child.

The doctors dragged out of hospital, beaten and tortured were not terrorists. has every hospital thats been razed been home to tunnels?.

Were the ambulances going out on call to find their collegues terrorists? No they were not. and yet they were still all killed and buried and it was almost covered up until some one questions it.

when you have all the latest weapons and tech it should not be hard to minimise civilian casualties.

This exercise isnt just to put an end to hamas its a controlled effort to wipe gaza off the map and remove those people once and for all from the the final piece land they that was palestine. When you look back at how the population has been treated years prior to this you can almost understand why.

My belief coming from what I have seen and read with my own eyes and ears makes me of the opinion that its a step too far. Its likely always been the intention of the IDF to wipe gaza and its people off the map for good.

The fact that the world has sat back and allowed it to happen is shameless and horrific to say the least.

The numbers when looked at clearly show a massive amount of elderly, women and children being killed and children starving.

By all means blow the place up. but have the decently to set aside a corner with food and aid so that all of those non combatents are safe and not living with the fear that a jdam is going to land outside at any moment. I believe it wouldnt be hard to do. but the IDF just dont want to. They are happy with the numbers they are killing.

The fact that world leaders are still standing by and allowing it to happen is dispicable. They should cease all weapons shipments and do more than simply protesting at the killing.

I hope that when its over should netty ever come to the uk that he is arrested ont he spot. It will never heppen thoguh because he is liekly never to leave the country again due to not wanting to be arrested and jailed for the disgusting things he has sanctioned.

No need for a private message although thankyou for the invitation.

I look forward to being enlightened and educated as to why I am wrong and will happily read any data or information you have to help change my position if its wrong.

This isnt about the why, its about the lies behind some of the attacks and killings that the idf puts out which it sticks with until there can be no avoiding the lies it tells and then it admits and gives that poor shitty rebuttal of. we will investigate and punish anyone resposible. Its complete and utter bollocks.

Treat people like humans there can be no excuse for the current treatment of the civilian population is gaza right now. none at all.

[AcademicG]

Originally Posted by SDI ↗

Some follow up infos about the terror shooting attack on Route 446 near Bruchin.

The newborn, which was retrieved via emergency c-section, is reported to be in serious, but stable condition. He will survive, while his mother was laid to rest at a cemetary near Jerusalem. (These burials are sometimes just too basic, looks almost like a body bag, rather than a burial shroud. But what do I know...)
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The car, riddled with bullets.
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First reported KIA Terrorist in connection to this murder: Nai Samara (?) from Palestinian village Burqin tried to approach IDF soldiers wearing a suicide vest. He failed and was taken out. The soldiers were sweeping the area to find the terror shooter.
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Vid1: Thermal CCTV footage of the perpetrator who shot 9 month pregnant Tzeela Gez. Unfortnately the cam operator spotted the terrorist rather late, as he already opened fire on passing by cars. The operator immeadetly inserted troops to get this guy. Unfortnately cam coverage was obviously limited and he managed to get away. He also seems to have a cape or tarp on his back. Spectral camoflage to block IR emissions?

Vid2: IDF release. Route 446, you see the part of the highway where it happened. Next to it earthworks to remove potential cover and vegetation. To make it harder for future perpetrators.
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https://www.documentingreality.com/f...ml#post8467396

You likely remember the 'Beit Hanoun Ambush' back in April. Al Qassam terrorists used a tunnel style approach to ambush an IDF vehicle on a logistic route near the border fence. The terror squad hit an unamored 'Storm' IDF jeep and wounded 2 female soldiers. With gunfire and an RPG shot.
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Arab channels quickly claimed IDF soldiers were seriously wounded and even lost limbs. Recently I stumbled over a lengthy article in an Israeli newspaper. It seems to be true, one of the two wounded ones, Sgt Linor definetly lost her left leg. No family name published.
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She also tells about her service on Oct 7th, a veteran obviously. It turns out she and her squad were fighting at Urim IDF base. One of the two bases where Hamas Al Qassam brigades managed to break in to mass murder IDF office staff. You likely remember the gopro scenes where Hamas killed several girls who tried to hide below their work desks. Their horrible yelping sounds, hard to forget.
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That must be medical Sgt Linor, from a TV doc about the fight on that base. Turns out her squad also suffered two casualties during Oct 7th. One KIA and and one wounded. Now Linor as well. Leg shot off by RPG rocket... Must be one of the most seriously wounded female IDF soldiers.
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Why do you go to such lengths to make a story of one person, but not of the story of someone on the other side. One side is humanized, the other dehumanized, because of western media rhetoric and messages like yours.

[AcademicG]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

I prefer the Chinese expression of "when eradicating grass kill the roots" to wasps and larvas.

I also think the Chinese version of taking all the kids and stick them in "education camps" be the more modern and more humane way of dealing with extremists.


It serves the same purpose of eliminating future generation of the wrong ideology without the death and mayhem.

Just me.

Yeah, same goes for fascist and nationalistic ethnostate ideology that induces and breeds racism through fearmongering, colonialism, and false history.

[houseoftechno]

Please comment on the subject matter and stop hurling insults at other DBers. Trolling is only allowed in the Water Cooler. See Rule 13. https://www.documentingreality.com/f...w.php?pg=rules

[goatstroker]

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

It says "ISRAEL/PALESTINE/IRAN/LEBANON Conflict Discussion Thread VIII" which is exactly what I am doing, discussing.

Goatstroker mate, if you can prove me wrong then im happy to stand corrected.


This was transferred over from war footage into discussion page by the host of the forum... that's why the quotes are fucked up idiot. You didn't message me in here originally you messaged on the conflict war footage forum and it was transferred by kellyhound or someone else. It fucked up the footage forum by doing the transfer. If you had your head out of the Palestinians asses you'd know that shit. You're sympathetic to a group that killed over 1000 people on one day, unprovoked. You're obviously some english retard that watches BBC, which just removed a story they made about tanks and shit killing over 100 gazans... they fucked up and said they had know evidence that anyone was killed. Stop sucking off terrorists and start researching whats really happening through multiple sources instead of just BBC. We all know how much you love BBC

As far as I am concerned the continual Bombing and killing of elderly,sick,women& children is wrong and tantamount to warcrimes. I am sure the arrest warrent wasnt issued in error.

I am only stating my view from what I have seen and read from various places. I dont support hamas what they did was abhorrent.

I write what I think, It is very clear to anyone that the course of action actioned upon by the Israelie government amounts to a war crime. Withholding food and water and basic medical supplies from a civilian population who are guilty of nothing but living in the area should no be acceptable to any civilised being.

I did not imagine two IDF soldiers filming themselves laughing as they through a grenade into tents, I didnt imagine a young boy being shot in the back for merely standing on his doorstep doing nothing. He isnt a terrorist hes a young child.

The doctors dragged out of hospital, beaten and tortured were not terrorists. has every hospital thats been razed been home to tunnels?.

Were the ambulances going out on call to find their collegues terrorists? No they were not. and yet they were still all killed and buried and it was almost covered up until some one questions it.

when you have all the latest weapons and tech it should not be hard to minimise civilian casualties.

This exercise isnt just to put an end to hamas its a controlled effort to wipe gaza off the map and remove those people once and for all from the the final piece land they that was palestine. When you look back at how the population has been treated years prior to this you can almost understand why.

My belief coming from what I have seen and read with my own eyes and ears makes me of the opinion that its a step too far. Its likely always been the intention of the IDF to wipe gaza and its people off the map for good.

The fact that the world has sat back and allowed it to happen is shameless and horrific to say the least.

The numbers when looked at clearly show a massive amount of elderly, women and children being killed and children starving.

By all means blow the place up. but have the decently to set aside a corner with food and aid so that all of those non combatents are safe and not living with the fear that a jdam is going to land outside at any moment. I believe it wouldnt be hard to do. but the IDF just dont want to. They are happy with the numbers they are killing.

The fact that world leaders are still standing by and allowing it to happen is dispicable. They should cease all weapons shipments and do more than simply protesting at the killing.

I hope that when its over should netty ever come to the uk that he is arrested ont he spot. It will never heppen thoguh because he is liekly never to leave the country again due to not wanting to be arrested and jailed for the disgusting things he has sanctioned.

No need for a private message although thankyou for the invitation.

I look forward to being enlightened and educated as to why I am wrong and will happily read any data or information you have to help change my position if its wrong.

If you'd stop sucking the dicks of terrorists, you'd know this comment and others were removed from conflict footage and placed here idiot. You're a terrorist sympathizer of a group that killed over 1000 people in one day unprovoked. Pull your chin off of Palestinian nutsacks and face the facts. Even your beloved BBC had to remove a story they made about 100+ gazans killed by tanks admitting they had no evidence of anyone being killed by those tanks. If you had a modicum of intellect, you'd review multiple sources before spouting your propaganda. Your country is overridden by terrorists from Iraq and Afghanistan and you still haven't figured it the fuck out.