[Vincentsdream]

It's been a while, so it may just be me forgetting what has been done in the past, but it seems worse. Children burnt to a crisp. The targetting of obvious civilian structures. It's horrendous.

[goatstroker]

Originally Posted by Vincentsdream ↗

It's been a while, so it may just be me forgetting what has been done in the past, but it seems worse. Children burnt to a crisp. The targetting of obvious civilian structures. It's horrendous.

This is what war is. Don't forget who fired on who first... also, when civilians stay in an area of known leaders of hamas (who rocketed israel) they are putting themselves in harms way. War is fucking ugly. Unfortunately, it happens and innocent people get to decide where they reside. If they choose to hang out around hamas, they die like hamas. It saddens me that the world can't just figure it the fuck out and quit the killing. However, inside of every country there's gangs and what not killing each other. Hopefully humanity will become more humane and stop killing their fellow humans.

[Vincentsdream]

Most places hot today we're refugee camps. Tents where families are just trying to survive. Also, keep in mind Israel created so called designated safe areas during the majority of the conflict btw and still bombed them.

Palestinians don't really have anywhere to go where they won't be senselessly I slaughtered. This goes beyond normal collateral damage. 100 kids died today, so they could what....maybe kill 20 enemey combatants?

[akyan]

Realistically, at this point, just leave. From what I see, it's trending towards absolute impunity for the powerful (Israel backed by USA). So stay and die or leave and live.

People can scream all day, march with flags, release videos of home made sniper rifles. It came down to the same conclusion I had at the start of these threads anyways. The world belong to those who have the power to project sovereignty.

But then again I maybe wrong, maybe pigs can fly and hell freezes over and the Palestinians will get from the river to the sea.

[Vincentsdream]

Leave and go where? Who is taking palestinian refugees? And how would they get there? No where is safe. They are bombed on sight. They are quite literally just waiting to die ar this point.

[spycosis]

Originally Posted by Vincentsdream ↗

Leave and go where? Who is taking palestinian refugees? And how would they get there? No where is safe. They are bombed on sight. They are quite literally just waiting to die ar this point.

There are over 3 million Palestinians living in Jordan alone and several million others living in the region and also around the world.
Every country in Europe except for Poland and Hungary takes Palestinians in as refugees. Even Israel takes them in.

Just some information as requested.

[Vincentsdream]

Jordan, which is already packed and has no room has stated "No more refugees." Just some info for you. Europe, where they have no guarantee of a place to live let alone how to get there without money, or being bombed en route. You guys have a great way of oversimplfying something that isn't simple.

[houseoftechno]

Another factor is that Hamas compels resident Arabs to stay in their slums and ignore IDF evacuation notices with an iron fist of mafia tactics: Public executions, street shootings, crippling, maiming, limb amputation, public beatings, torture rooms, rapes, personal threats, threats to harm relatives left behind. The survivor testimony everywhere. The Hamas/Hez/Islamic Brotherhood violence toward resident Arabs is regularly posted on balanced media channels, and has been a key MO of those organizations for decades since they formed.

[houseoftechno]

Easy to push buttons on this angry, foul mouthed Arab street vendor in DC.

[spycosis]

Originally Posted by houseoftechno ↗

Another factor is that Hamas compels resident Arabs to stay in their slums and ignore IDF evacuation notices with an iron fist of mafia tactics: Public executions, street shootings, crippling, maiming, limb amputation, public beatings, torture rooms, rapes, personal threats, threats to harm relatives left behind. The survivor testimony everywhere. The Hamas/Hez/Islamic Brotherhood violence toward resident Arabs is regularly posted on balanced media channels, and has been a key MO of those organizations for decades since they formed.

Back in the VHS days there was a tape going around called Executions and one that stuck with me was a young lad having his jaw blown to pieces with an AK while he lay down tied up. That was a Hamas execution done without a trial. It is a myth that all Palestinians like them. A lot of them hate Hamas and hate violence, I wish more people could see them for what they are.