[MrBlue]

Originally Posted by ShaunoftheDead ↗

Feb 24-March 6 2022

You’re doing God’s work friend.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by deadhorsey ↗

I just press pause and whack until I’m shooting dust.

LOL. My Anti-Communist Latvian ancestors might laugh at this

[soyadude]

Originally Posted by nzcelt ↗

You really don’t have a clue. If the Russians encircled a city and actually did it properly by destroying all critical infrastructure , then there would be a lot more pressure on the Ukrainian president to surrender. At the moment the Russians are going very easy on Ukraine.

Yes, look at Grozny after the Russians were done with it. Not all the Russian troops have the same mind as Putin.

[HonsoNb78]

Originally Posted by nzcelt ↗

You really don’t have a clue. If the Russians encircled a city and actually did it properly by destroying all critical infrastructure , then there would be a lot more pressure on the Ukrainian president to surrender. At the moment the Russians are going very easy on Ukraine.

All jokes aside, I've been following this conflict very closely. Russia is losing. Have you asked yourself why Putin has shown "restraint"? Because he's realized there's no controlling Ukraine. He doesn't have the people of his own country in his bidding let alone Ukraine. On top of the lack of morality, his armory has taken way too big of a hit. He is not mobilized effectively at the moment. His original plan didn't cost billions of dollars in metal, sanctions, and livelihood. War in Ukraine is not a solution for anyone and definitely not the solution for the Russian frontline against NATO.

[tootsieflowrslave]

Originally Posted by HonsoNb78 ↗

All jokes aside, I've been following this conflict very closely. Russia is losing. Have you asked yourself why Putin has shown "restraint"? Because he's realized there's no controlling Ukraine. He doesn't have the people of his own country in his bidding let alone Ukraine. On top of the lack of morality, his armory has taken way too big of a hit. He is not mobilized effectively at the moment. His original plan didn't cost billions of dollars in metal, sanctions, and livelihood. War in Ukraine is not a solution for anyone and definitely not the solution for the Russian frontline against NATO.

I think there are a number of factors but I agree with one thing...Russia is not winning this war. Even the very best case scenario for Putin will come at such a tremendous price to such a degree that I don't even think it is possible for him to win. Assuming Putin's campaign results in the toppling of Kiev and the neutralization of the UA, any Russian occupation would be continually harassed by unrelenting insurgencies, which would stymie Moscow's attempts to solidify Ukraine into a puppet state like Belarus. On top of that, how in the hell are the Russians going to be able to do that anyways in a country that is larger than the state of Texas with 190,000 troops minus the 4,500 to 11,000 already killed?

I attribute what is happening to deplorable planning, deplorable intelligence, deplorable logistics, and deplorable command/control systems. It's not that the Russians lack the capability, it is because of their military and civilian leadership is just awful and won't take no for an answer from the lower echelons of their rank and file.

Conversely, you have a battle hardened, well trained, fairly well armed, highly motivated, highly determined UA with a highly respected leader who did not stand in the way of his military planners and brass. Moreover, the UA is being financed, armed, and even trained by the U.S. and NATO (covertly). The UA, or at least the upper echelons of Ukranian leadership is also being fed NATO intelligence. But, above all, I think the fighting spirit of the Ukranians and their ligistical preparations vs. a clumsily executed plan of the most extreme terms has effectively negated the lopsided imbalance of firepower and technology from the other side.

Russia could indeed unleash much more firepower and certainly has the capacity to do so. But, if Putin wants to turn Ukraine into a parking lot, then one has to wonder why he expended so many resources for a few more places to park his limousines and Italian sports cars with no means to keep his newly attained prize under control?

Maybe I am completely wrong, IDK. I am interested to read any replies, agree or disagree.

[tootsieflowrslave]

Originally Posted by HonsoNb78 ↗

All jokes aside, I've been following this conflict very closely. Russia is losing. Have you asked yourself why Putin has shown "restraint"? Because he's realized there's no controlling Ukraine. He doesn't have the people of his own country in his bidding let alone Ukraine. On top of the lack of morality, his armory has taken way too big of a hit. He is not mobilized effectively at the moment. His original plan didn't cost billions of dollars in metal, sanctions, and livelihood. War in Ukraine is not a solution for anyone and definitely not the solution for the Russian frontline against NATO.

All jokes aside from me as well, I hope Vladimof Putler is removed, dead or alive and not a minute too soon either.

[LucasCarr]

I don't buy this "Russia is taking it easy" BS. Russia bit off more than they could chew, They expected both the government and the armed forces of Ukraine to crumble and for Russians to be hailed as heros by Ukrainians. Short of Nukes Russia is giving all they got, they just miscalculated the entire situation and now they have no idea what to do. We have built up images of these so called super powers of the world in our heads but when push comes to shove these so called super powers are not as great as we think, their power lays solely in the ability of having nukes at their disposal. examples being USA Vs Vietnam, USSR Vs Afhganistan, USA Vs Iraq, USA Vs Afhganistan and now Russia Vs Ukraine. Moral of the story... Don't try to occupy a state that does not want you there, you're fighting for a pay check, they are fighting for freedom.

[splice77]

I didn't see Putin?

[HonsoNb78]

Originally Posted by tootsieflowrslave ↗

I think there are a number of factors but I agree with one thing...Russia is not winning this war. Even the very best case scenario for Putin will come at such a tremendous price to such a degree that I don't even think it is possible for him to win. Assuming Putin's campaign results in the toppling of Kiev and the neutralization of the UA, any Russian occupation would be continually harassed by unrelenting insurgencies, which would stymie Moscow's attempts to solidify Ukraine into a puppet state like Belarus. On top of that, how in the hell are the Russians going to be able to do that anyways in a country that is larger than the state of Texas with 190,000 troops minus the 4,500 to 11,000 already killed?

I attribute what is happening to deplorable planning, deplorable intelligence, deplorable logistics, and deplorable command/control systems. It's not that the Russians lack the capability, it is because of their military and civilian leadership is just awful and won't take no for an answer from the lower echelons of their rank and file.

Conversely, you have a battle hardened, well trained, fairly well armed, highly motivated, highly determined UA with a highly respected leader who did not stand in the way of his military planners and brass. Moreover, the UA is being financed, armed, and even trained by the U.S. and NATO (covertly). The UA, or at least the upper echelons of Ukranian leadership is also being fed NATO intelligence. But, above all, I think the fighting spirit of the Ukranians and their ligistical preparations vs. a clumsily executed plan of the most extreme terms has effectively negated the lopsided imbalance of firepower and technology from the other side.

Russia could indeed unleash much more firepower and certainly has the capacity to do so. But, if Putin wants to turn Ukraine into a parking lot, then one has to wonder why he expended so many resources for a few more places to park his limousines and Italian sports cars with no means to keep his newly attained prize under control?

Maybe I am completely wrong, IDK. I am interested to read any replies, agree or disagree.

On point about the fighting spirit. Morality plays a HUGE factor in war. Why do you think Jihadists and those alike go so hard for their beliefs? Bc as bat shit crazy as it sounds, they think god himself put that rifle in their hands. They believe they're righteous in their deaths.
That's why the US couldn't occupy
afg. and this is why Russia will fail to occupy Ukraine.

[mileslong]

Russia is def not winning. Their initial objective was to deliver shock and awe in the hopes UA would rollover and surrender immediately. Obviously it didn't happen that way.

There are so many reasons why they aren't winning. But.. I can tell you IMO what the most damning one is, and it was created by Russia itself more than once.

They came in and took out cellular service 3G/4G.. and it just happens to be that their encrypted comms need that to work. So they have been using public freq's for comms. But wait... it gets better.. they didn't allow troops to bring their cell phones... so they couldn't dial them up if they wanted to. So what did the smart Ruskies do? Bought local phones with SIM cards that are constantly monitored.

Shoot, move, and communicate.