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07-10-2023, 03:07 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...on-2023-07-10/ Putin held post-mutiny talks with Wagner leader Prigozhin and his fighters - Kremlin MOSCOW, July 10 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin has held Kremlin talks with Wagner mercenary group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin and his commanders to discuss the armed mutiny Wagner attempted to mount against the army's top brass, Putin's spokesman said on Monday. The meeting was first reported by French newspaper Liberation, which said Prigozhin had met Putin and the head of the National Guard, Viktor Zolotov, and SVR Foreign Intelligence boss Sergei Naryshkin. The meeting, according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, was held on June 29, five days after the aborted mutiny, which is widely regarded to have posed the most serious challenge to Putin since he came to power on the last day of 1999. Peskov told reporters that Putin had invited 35 people to the meeting, including Prigozhin and Wagner unit commanders, and that the meeting had lasted three hours. "The only thing we can say is that the president gave his assessment of the company's (Wagner's) actions at the front during the Special Military Operation (in Ukraine) and also gave his assessment of the events of 24 June (the day of the mutiny)," Peskov told reporters. He said Putin had listened to the commanders' own explanations of what had happened and had offered them further options for employment and combat. "The commanders outlined their version of what happened (on June 24). They emphasised that they are staunch supporters and soldiers of the head of state and the supreme commander-in-chief. They also said that they are ready to continue fighting for the Motherland," said Peskov. The brief mutiny led by Prigozhin, in which Wagner fighters took control of the southern city of Rostov-on-Don and a military headquarters building, was defused in a deal brokered by Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko. Putin, who likened the events to the turmoil which engulfed Russia in the run-up to the 1917 Russian Revolution, has since thanked his army and security services for averting chaos and civil war. Prigozhin has said the mutiny was not aimed at overthrowing the government but at "bringing to justice" the army and defence chiefs for what he called their blunders and unprofessional actions in Ukraine. Putin has so far kept Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov in place, judging by appearances by both men on state TV - rejecting Prigozhin's appeals to sack them. Prigozhin was meant to leave for Belarus under the terms of the deal that ended the mutiny. But Lukashenko said last week that Prigozhin was back in Russia and that Wagner fighters had not yet taken up an offer to relocate to Belarus, raising questions about the implementation of the agreement. |
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07-14-2023, 05:28 AM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
It is interesting(and retarded) how Pro-Communist & Pro-Socialist ppl, of any kind, label anyone they disagree with, about anything, as a “Neo-Nazi”. liberals & Dims do the same thing. smh |
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07-14-2023, 10:38 PM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...us-camp-2023-7 A newly surfaced image of Prigozhin hints at where the Wagner boss may have finally ended up after his failed mutiny The whereabouts of Yevgeny Prigozhin have been largely shrouded in mystery since he mobilized the Wagner Group to carry out a short-lived mutiny against Russia's military leadership last month. But a newly surfaced image of the mercenary organization's leader, which was widely circulated across social media on Friday, hints that he may now be living in a makeshift tent at a Belarus military camp alongside Wagner fighters who have started training Belarusian soldiers. The tent where he was photographed matches those photographed a week before during an official tour of the disused installation led by Belarussian officials. As part of the negotiations to end the Wagner Group's armed rebellion on June 24 before it could reach Moscow, the mercenary fighters were given the option to seek exile in Belarus alongside Prigozhin, sign contracts with Russia's military, or just go home to avoid prosecution. Belarus has since offered to host Wagner Group fighters at an abandoned military camp near Tsel in the country's central Asipovichy district. Satellite imagery captured on June 29 and obtained by Insider shows and aerial view of the camp, where dozens of new tents were reportedly constructed in the two weeks prior. A Skyfi satellite image of the training base at Tsel outside Osipovichi in Belarus where Wagner forces are training Belarusian troops. Photographs taken at the camp by international media last week showed rows of empty tents that are capable of accommodating a few thousand troops. Still, it remained unclear how many Wagner fighters actually planned to head to the camp. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters on Tuesday that the military alliance had not seen "any deployment or movement of any Wagner forces into Belarus." On Friday, however, Belarus' defense ministry said Wagner fighters at begun training Belarusian territorial defense units near Asipovichy, according to state-run media site Belta. "According to the ministry, the units are drilling the skills of tactical shooting and movement on a battlefield. In addition, reservists are acquiring engineering and tactical medicine skills," Belta reported. "Instructors in some military disciplines are PMC Wagner fighters." Wagner's reported training of Belarusian soldiers comes after the country's president, Alexander Lukashenko, boasted that Minsk has troops who are "roughly as good as Wagner personnel, or they may be even better," in comments earlier this month. That said, he also said he would welcome their training. Where is Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin? Over the past three weeks since his failed mutiny, Prigozhin's whereabouts have been a mystery. He was supposedly cast into exile in Belarus as part of negotiations to call off the mutiny, but the Kremlin claimed earlier this week that on June 29 — five days after the day-long mutiny ended — Prigozhin actually met with, and pledged loyalty to, Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. In early July, Prigozin — and a private jet linked to him — were reportedly in St. Petersburg. Where Prigozhin has been since then has been anyone's guess. But the new image of Prigozhin suggests that he may be at the same military camp where his Wagner mercenaries are training Belarusian soldiers. The photo, shared to Twitter by even senior Ukrainian officials, shows Prigozhin sitting upright on a small cot in a tent. Beside him are blankets, a duffle bag, and several electronics chargers. Behind him are two darkened windows. The windows in the photo appear to match those on tents at the military camp being used by Wagner and Belarusian soldiers. The floorboards also appear to be the same as ones used in the tents. The window of a tent is seen at a newly-built camp on a site previously used by the Belarusian army that could potentially accommodate up to 5,000 Wagner troops, on July 07, 2023, 90 kilometers (approximately 55 miles) southeast of Minsk, in Asipovichy District, Belarus. It's not immediately clear how many Wagner fighters are in Belarus, nor is it known if Prigozhin has any role in the training, assuming the camp in Belarus is where he is now. In the months leading up to Prigozhin's mutiny, the Wagner Group played a key role on the battlefield in eastern Ukraine while fighting alongside Russia's regular military. Although the rebellion left questions about where Wagner fighters would end up, US officials have since said that they aren't fighting in Ukraine anymore. "At this stage, we do not see Wagner forces participating in any significant capacity in support of combat operations in Ukraine," a Pentagon spokesperson told reporters at a Thursday briefing. Wagner forces pulled off the line after the battle for Bakhmut. Even as Wagner's future continues to remain uncertain, Russia's defense ministry has been making a public showing of disarming the mercenaries. Moscow published a video this week showing a massive collection of weaponry and military hardware — including advanced tanks and other high-profile systems — confiscated from the organization. "All equipment and armaments are transported to rear areas, where repair and recovery units of the Russian Armed Forces carry out maintenance and prepare them for use for their intended purpose," the defense ministry said. |
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07-15-2023, 01:27 AM
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Re: 2023 Russian Civil War Mega Thread (Wagner vs. RF)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/14/europ...ntl/index.html What we know about Andrey Troshev, the man Putin proposed as the new Wagner boss ![]() Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed to Wagner Group fighters that a senior mercenary named Andrey Troshev now command the private military group, according to comments the Russian leader made to the Kommersant newspaper. Putin appears to have created a split between senior fighters from the Wagner mercenary group and its leader Yevgeny Prigozhin since its failed uprising last month – at least in terms of the narrative emerging from his comments to the Kommersant. The paper was reporting on a meeting held by the Russian president five days after the Wagner rebellion collapsed at the end of June – a meeting attended by Prigozhin and several dozen senior Wagner combatants. According to Kommersant, Putin told dozens of Wagner mercenaries in the meeting that among the multiple employment choices he offered to them, one included them continuing to fight under their direct commander, a man who goes by the call sign, ‘Sedoy,’ meaning ‘grey hair.’ “They could have all gathered in one place and continued to serve,” Putin said, “and nothing would have changed for them. They would be led by the same person who has been their real commander all along.” “And what happened then?” the Kommersant reporter said in reply to Putin. “Many people nodded [affirmatively] when I said that,” Putin replied. Who is Andrey Troshev? Sedoy is the call sign of Andrey Troshev, a retired Russian colonel and a founding member and Executive Director of the Wagner Group, according to sanctions documents published by the European Union and France. European Union sanctions concerning the situation in Syria detail Troshev’s position as the chief of staff of the Wagner Group operations in Syria, which supported the Syrian regime. Troshev was born in April 1953 in Leningrad, in the former Soviet Union, according to the EU sanctions from December 2021. “Andrey Troshev is directly involved in the military operations of the Wagner Group in Syria. He was particularly involved in the area of Deir ez-Zor,” it added. “As such, he provides a crucial contribution to Bashar al-Assad’s war effort and therefore supports and benefits from the Syrian regime.” United Kingdom sanctions from June 2022 also say “Andrey Nikolaevich Troshev was the Chief Executive of the Wagner Group. Therefore, he has supported the Syrian regime, was a member of a militia, and has repressed the civilian population in Syria.” His associates include Wagner Group founder Dimitriy Utkin, who is also a former Russian GRU military intelligence officer, according to EU sanctions. Troshev is also associated with Wagner group commanders Aleksandr Sergeevich Kuznetsov and Andrey Bogatov. ‘Grey hair’ is also a former employee of the special rapid response detachment of the Russian Interior Ministry’s Northwestern Federal District, according to Russian online news outlet Fontanka. He is also a veteran of the wars in Chechnya and Afghanistan. For his service in Afghanistan, Troshev was awarded two Orders of the Red Star – a Soviet Union decoration for exceptional service. For service in the operation in Chechnya, he was awarded two Orders of Courage and a medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 2nd degree, according to Russian media. Troshev was among those invited to a reception at the Kremlin in December 2016. A photograph, believed to be from that 2016 reception, emerged in Russian media in 2017 and shows Putin alongside Troshev and Utkin, who are both wearing several medals. Ukraine imposed sanctions against Troshev on February 26, 2023. |