[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

No offence but all this “confirmation” basically means he will be in a briefing on camera in a few days unharmed

Russian sources are reporting it too.

[WonderMomma]

And official Russian sources are saying NO COMMENT.

"Peskov refused to answer where Surovikin or Prigozhin are.

Below is the text version of his conversation with a Russian journalist:

Q: There is a lot of speculation about General Surovikin and his resignation, could you clarify what is going on with him, has he been suspended?

A: No, unfortunately no, and I recommend you to contact the Ministry of Defense, this is the Ministry's prerogative

Q: The thing is, we contacted the Ministry of Defense and received no comments.
But do we know where General Surovikin is now and is it really reported that he has been arrested?

A: I have nothing to add here, because I have already said everything on the subject."

[WonderMomma]

Commentary from Anton Gerashchenko:

"The Kremlin power felt its power is becoming less secure, and rushed to restore and strengthen its positions:

1. Putin intensified his presence in media space, started handing out awards and privileges, meet with key allies;

He gave out hundreds of awards for "suppressing the rebellion" to people who did nothing.

2. In parallel, the process of searching and finding "guilty parties" has launched. These won't be the true instigators - "guilty ones" will be appointed to bear responsibility for what happened.

Putin and Shoigu, who went into hiding in the first hours of the mutiny, need to wash away their shame with public arrests or something similar.

At the risk of prosecution and being arrested are:

1. Government officials from the cities along which the PMC convoy moved;
2. Lower-rank military and those who tried to enlist into Wagner as volunteers;
3. All commanders of military units in Voronezh and Rostov regions. It doesn't matter that they didn't receive any orders;
4. Military correspondents and bloggers who supported the mutiny and who supported Wagner before;
5. Heads of prisons who allowed Prigozhin to enlist prisoners - especially those prisons where rebellions started during the mutiny;
6. Syrian grouping of Russian military - they cooperated with Prigozhin at some point;
7. Complaints: thousands of denunciations are being written already, to point out "Prigozhin's supporters in hiding" - people want to use the social lifts available to them, and send their bosses under arrest. This might be especially harmful to officials.

To conclude:

Earlier those who were against Wagner, risked to be imprisoned. Now it's time for those who supported it to go to jail.

And the most paradoxical thing of all: no one calls Prigozhin's name in relation to all this. At least publicly.

Will Surovikin be appointed the scapegoat? Or will he be able to set himself free? (Which is probable). Will they find others to blame?"

[WonderMomma]

Plot twist.

"Surovikin's daughter claims her father is at work and everything is all right with him, he is at work. She told so to Russian media Baza. Below is the text of their conversation.

Yesterday several Russian Telegram channels reported that Surovikin was allegedly arrested.

"A: Honestly, no. Nothing happened to him, he's at his workplace.

Q: You're in touch with him, right?

A: Yeah, he's fine.

Q: He hasn't disappeared anywhere? Nobody arrested him?

A: No, of course not. Well, when does he show up in the media every day? He's never made an appearance.

Q: And you're in touch with him, and you're in touch with security, and none of this is true, am I right?

A: My understanding is that things are kind of flowing the way they usually do. Everybody's at their workplaces, everything's fine.""

[kellyhound]

Two sources close to Russia's General Staff and Federal Security Service (FSB) cited by independent investigative outlet Important Stories (IStories) later denied Surovikin's arrest and detention. However, they did confirm that he was interrogated for his possible involvement in the Wagner group's recent rebellion.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Plot twist.

"Surovikin's daughter claims her father is at work and everything is all right with him, he is at work. She told so to Russian media Baza. Below is the text of their conversation.

Yesterday several Russian Telegram channels reported that Surovikin was allegedly arrested.

"A: Honestly, no. Nothing happened to him, he's at his workplace.

Q: You're in touch with him, right?

A: Yeah, he's fine.

Q: He hasn't disappeared anywhere? Nobody arrested him?

A: No, of course not. Well, when does he show up in the media every day? He's never made an appearance.

Q: And you're in touch with him, and you're in touch with security, and none of this is true, am I right?

A: My understanding is that things are kind of flowing the way they usually do. Everybody's at their workplaces, everything's fine.""

Yeah this was what I expected but it could still mean they tortured him or say they are going to kill him family or something

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

No offence but all this “confirmation” basically means he will be in a briefing on camera in a few days unharmed

*visually unharmed

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[kellyhound]

Wagner’s aborted weekend rebellion wound up without attaining its stated goal: the removal of Prigozhin’s archenemy Sergei Shoigu, the seemingly untouchable defence minister who has overseen Russia’s grindingly slow invasion of Ukraine.

To dispel any notion that Putin might have bowed to Prigozhin’s demands, Russian authorities on Monday released video footage of Shoigu flying in an army helicopter, examining military maps and holding talks with officers.

The undated video led some observers to speculate that Moscow may have recycled old footage to give the impression that the minister was out on the front line. Either way, the timing of its release sent out a clear message after the extraordinary drama that unfolded at the weekend.

“It showed to everyone that Putin is behind Shoigu – and still firmly in control,” said Jenny Mathers, a Russia specialist at the University of Aberystwyth in Wales.

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Window on the horizon.