[WonderMomma]

"A very rare MI-8 MTPR was shot down by a "mother's anti-aircraft gun" during yesterday's raid of "Wagner" convoys across Russia."

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I learned of all this when it was basically done (i was at a wedding), but I realised that Russia needs Wagner as we are basically in the endgame now. I don’t expect another big counteroffensive, at least not with western funding. Any potential ceasefire will be met with Zelensky replaced/executed by former Azov guys. Then it would get real ugly, and Wagner should be the ones to fight the new Kiev government as Russia can semi-distance themselves from them.

So my guess was Russia would reach some sort of agreement; promise that Wagner would get to rule parts of Ukraine which they conquer. Now I read that Wagner will be stationed 100KM from Kiev, don’t know if true, but yeah that does make some sense.

And now the world knows that Wagner does not listen to Putin and is not under Russian control, so I guess they are the perfect tool for the job to finish off Kiev once their civil war has started.

As of right now everything depends on this counteroffensive.

AZOV could replace Zelenskiy before Russian invasion as his popularity was Claiming down everyday. Now Putin brought his popularity higher than the stars.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

1️⃣"Complete disappointment in Prigozhin:

Yesterday, convicts from Russian Storm Z unit publicly supported Prigozhin's march on Moscow.

One day later, they recorded another video. This time, Storm Z accused Prigozhin of turning around and halting his march."

2️⃣"This subtitled video is Prigozhin's story by CurrentTimeTv. I think it'll be an interesting watch for you.

Prigozhin's press office said that he is not yet available.

"He sends his regards to everyone and will answer questions when he has a normal connection," RTVI reporter was told in response to an inquiry.

Prigozhin was last seen when he left Rostov, but his current location is unknown."

“TsIPSO uses Russian prisoners of war for staged videos.

Everyone saw the video where the fighters, representing themselves as Storm Z, first supported Prigogine, and then began to insult him when he did not go to Moscow.

One of the people in the video (on the far left) turned out to be a missing soldier from Buryatia, Zhamsaranov Ochir, whom the Bandera channels had already laid out, having taken him prisoner.
Accordingly, the other men in the video are also most likely prisoners of war, but possibly actors as well.”

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

As of right now everything depends on this counteroffensive.

AZOV could replace Zelenskiy before Russian invasion as his popularity was Claiming down everyday. Now Putin brought his popularity higher than the stars.

According to western media, sure. Nato is something that Ukrainians are proud to die for. Ukrainians rather die than have an eastern part of their country which was warn torn anyway be removed from Ukraine. Ukrainians rather have 100% of their nation destroyed instead of losing that 20%. And so on.

Ukrainians who believe in the above will stand behind Zelensky. But I certainly don’t believe those are all Ukrainians. Come next year once the US might limit funding, Ukrainians will ask themselves: what was it really for? Who promised us that we would win, who promised us that our dead sons would receive statues and streets in their names?

I read somewhere that 4.5 billion people 6.8 billion people on this earth live in countries that didn’t sanction Russia. From the countries that did sanction russia, not all citizens are behind such decisions, nor are they in support of Zelensky or Nato expansion.

So in the end it just boils down to which media you follow.

[Faust]

This actually makes a lot of sense:

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

This actually makes a lot of sense:

To take Kyev they would need way much more people and resources than 25K. 250000 might do it, if city surrounded

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

According to western media, sure. Nato is something that Ukrainians are proud to die for. Ukrainians rather die than have an eastern part of their country which was warn torn anyway be removed from Ukraine. Ukrainians rather have 100% of their nation destroyed instead of losing that 20%. And so on.

Ukrainians who believe in the above will stand behind Zelensky. But I certainly don’t believe those are all Ukrainians. Come next year once the US might limit funding, Ukrainians will ask themselves: what was it really for? Who promised us that we would win, who promised us that our dead sons would receive statues and streets in their names?

I read somewhere that 4.5 billion people on this earth live in countries that didn’t sanction Russia. From the countries that did sanction russia, not all citizens are behind such decisions, nor are they in support of Zelensky or Nato expansion.

So in the end it just boils down to which media you follow.

A lot of people don’t want to fight. People that I know on Ukr side are saying that army taking guys by force on the streets during the day or night, don’t matter. But I guess it’s still working, because once they get to the front line, they don’t really have a choice

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

A lot of people don’t want to fight. People that I know on Ukr side are saying that army taking guys by force on the streets during the day or night, don’t matter. But I guess it’s still working, because once they get to the front line, they don’t really have a chance.

Yeah I am reading reports of close to 1000 UKR casualties daily and I think it is so disrespectful that their media and twitter army is like “lol we are just probing, wait for the real offensive this ain’t shit we not even trying russia so weak lol” a large percentage of their casualties are indeed people pulled of the streets, people forced to fight for a regime which decisions they don’t even stand behind. So while looking at the supposed actual numbers I have an understanding that the counteroffensive is failing to the point of them halting it and their unsustainable losses, it does not make me happy in the slightest, no matter the goal. So RIP to all those soldiers

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

To take Kyev they would need way much more people and resources than 25K. 250000 might do it, if city surrounded

I’m afraid Wagner would not be fighting using Russian rules

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

This actually makes a lot of sense:

From the briefing thread you don't have access to.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

From the briefing thread you don't have access to.
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Attachment 1191153

“ Serhiy Nayev, assures that there is no build-up of equipment or manpower in the north of Ukraine, and if the enemy tries to
cross the border from the north, it will be suicide for him.”

Lol, I initially read that as Serhiy would kill himself if the enemy tries to invade after Serhiy assured everybody that there was no build-up But I understand he means the Russians, and thanks for sharing it this is valuable information