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12-11-12 Clackamas Town Center Mall, Oregon, Jacob Tyler Roberts, 22 3 dead, 1 wounded


On Tuesday, December 11 at about 3:30pm, one Jacob Tyler Roberts, 22, allegedly ran into the shopping center in Clackamas Oregon(near Portland) and opened fire near the food court with a stolen AR-15 -type semiautomatic rifle, firing as many as 60 shots, killing two people and seriously wounding a third person before committing suicide.
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Old 10-24-2021, 02:30 AM
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ive never even heard of this shooting.

thank you for sharing.
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I was there at the mall that day when it happened!!
I stopped by after work and just happened to be there that day....

Though there were immediate indications that this was no 'lone gunman.'

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread906813/pg1
"3 shooters, one has a hockey mask was the last transmission."

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread906813/pg5
"Reports from a Medford, OR news station saying that they have word from several Portland News sources that there are at least 2 suspects."

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread906813/pg12
"...there's been two different descriptions of the shooter - one in cammo & one in all black, both wearing hockey masks."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... three-dead
"Witnesses said the man wearing camouflage and what looked like a hockey mask fired rounds..."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... TE=DEFAULT
Macy's employees Pam Moore and Austin Patty told the AP the shooter was short, with dark hair, dressed in camouflage. He had body armor and a rifle and was wearing a white mask, they said.

http://gma.yahoo.com/oregon-mall-shooti ... d-05022447
Mall shopper Daniel Martinez told KATU that he had just sat down at a Jamba Juice inside the mall when he heard rapid gunfire. He turned and saw the masked gunman, dressed in all black, about 10 feet away from him.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 7195.story
A shopper in Macy’s who identified herself as Nina told TV station KATU that “the shooter jogged by, he was wearing all black, a white hockey mask, and he was holding an assault rifle up against his chest in plain view.”

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread906910/pg9
"My girlfriend and I were in the mall when the shooting happend. ... We spoke to a lady who said she was on the same bus he was on. She could describe him, in detail, as wearing all black and wearing some kind of mask with a skull pattern on it. I read today that investigators found his vehicle in the mall parking lot. However, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for the lady I talked to to imagine seeing this guy on the bus and tell a blatant lie in her panicked state. Maybe his car was already at the mall with the weapons, prior to him arriving; who knows.
I talked to another group of people that stated they saw him walking into the mall with two other people. One in standard army camouflage, and two wearing all black. ...."


Certainly the shooter did not fit any profile:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-sh ... d=17946938
"Jake was never the violent type. He didn't go out of his way to try to hurt people or upset people. His main goal was to make you laugh, smile, make you feel comfortable.
--Officials from the Oregon City School District, where Roberts graduated from Oregon City High School, were also surprised at the news. "This news is very shocking to those who knew Jacob while at OCHS. He was known as a soft spoken and polite young man who was often eager to be helpful.


Though the shooting did fit the profile of the manipulated event in a number of familiar ways:


Lack of motive:

While the investigation won't be finished until January, the media seems to be prepping us for the usual failure to find any motive:

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Jacob-Ro ... 61272.html
"While we may never know exactly why a young man opened fire at the Clackamas Town Center ....."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-sh ... d=17946938
"The motive for such a horrific act is likely to remain a mystery to us all," the (school)district said in a statement."
(Now how in the world would the school district know that? Are they the detectives now? )

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Sudden personality changes:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-sh ... d=17946938
In the days before ... Jacob Roberts quit his job, sold his belongings and began to seem "numb" to those closest to him.
Roberts' ex-girlfriend, Hannah Patricia Sansburn, 20, told ABC News today that (Roberts) was typically happy and liked to joke around, but abrubtly changed in the week before the shooting.

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Unexplained gaps in the timeline:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... TE=DEFAULT
Samantha Bennett, a neighbor to Roberts at an apartment complex in summer 2011: He dropped out of sight earlier this year, and his phone was disconnected, she said.

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Possible contact with a military recruiter:

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascoun ... ng_21.html
He had planned to go into the U.S. Navy when he graduated in 2008 from Oregon City High School, but hurt his leg and wasn't eligible...
(other sources said it was the Marines he wanted to join)

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Super quick response time:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread906910/pg9
"The response time of local law enforcement was incredibly fast. We managed to exit the building in under 5 minutes and as we were leaving multiple armed law enforcement officers were already arriving and securing the scene."

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Feds:

http://gma.yahoo.com/oregon-mall-shooti ... -050224472
Roberts said more than 100 law enforcement officers responded to the shooting, and at least four local agencies were working on the investigation, including the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms...

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Blank Expression:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/11/re ... egon-mall/
One witness told KPTV that the gunman ran past her and her boyfriend and "had the look of death in his eyes."

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Incriminating evidence left in domicile:

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascoun ... rober.html
(Roommate Christopher)Dahrens told police he recently had found a box of 5.56mm ammunition for the AR-15 in they house they shared... and then learned it belonged to Roberts.

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The recent drll:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2Ermg6bdf
The sheriff said the gunman was also hindered in his efforts to kill more people by a fast police response, quick thinking from shoppers and a recently-rehearsed mall lockdown.


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Aftermath:

Along with the usual calls for more gun control, an ugly racial agenda reared its head:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-sh ... d=17943361
--From the costume to his age and ethnicity, Roberts fit the mold of who FBI profilers expected the shooter to be."Its clear the majority [of shooters] are white males..." (Dr. Mary Ellen O'Toole, a retired FBI profiler) said....
...she acknowledged the preponderance of whites among the list of mass killers.
"I think it's a question that needs to be put out there," O'Toole said




“People were screaming and pointing and running,” she(an employee of a mall store) said, “it was just like your typical American nightmare.”[/QUOTE]
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I was at the mall that day.. I stopped in there after work and this shit was about to happen..I will never forget that day!!
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I was at the mall that day.. I stopped in there after work and this shit was about to happen..I will never forget that day!!
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Is not surprising that some witnesses said dressed in all black and others said camo with white mask. It's proven that eye witness accounts are notoriously inaccurate, especially during a traumatic event. Our brain will fill in holes or gaps in the story or easily be influenced by others.
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