[BabyJo84]

Originally Posted by PTSD Is My Life ↗

I remember the boom as the plane either blew up or hit the ground and I was in Penrith at the time a good few miles away and actually rang it in as I thought another RAF plane had banged in somewhere in the Lake District. My house was right at the town limits up (Beacon) Hill so had a panoramic view and sound travelled a long way up there.

My (now ex) wifes uncle was driving down the road and travelling south from Glasgow back to Penrith and was about 1/2 (or so) mile from Lockerbie and the impact site and said the fireball was almost unreal he slammed on the brakes and jumped out and said even at that distance the heat was phenominal.

Also on the yellow Lada situation Carlisle used to awash with them as there was a taxi company who insisted you owned a Yellow Lada when you worked for them (the vast majority of the cars where privately owned but they insisted on them being painted and serviced at their garages in the arches under the railway station behind the swimming baths/Metal Box Factory.

I lived in Denton Holme and then moved out to one of the outlying villages before moving to Penrith after attending Newton Rigg Agriculture collage to train in Horticulture/Landscape Gardening

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We were driving outside of lockerbie when this happened too. We lived in the scottish borders town, Hawick and we were taking the scenic route up to edinburgh to visit family for christmas.

My dad always took that route during the holidays because he loved the countryside around there so much.

We also heard the boom, and our car (a white rover) was hit with a few bits of debris. I only remember my dad shouting a lot of profanities and my mum screaming. I was told to get down and stay lying down in the back seat, the only thing I remember seeing was a white shirt hanging over the passenger seat window and a lot of sound like really heavy hail. My dad didn't know if it was safer to keep driving or stop, so we just kept crawling along real slow in case he had to emergency stop for large pieces of debris. I will never ever forget that day.

I don't think enough time will pass for jokes about this tragedy not to rile me a little.

[belalugosiisdead]

I remember listening to an interview with an eyewitness on radio who described chunks of melted flesh dripping from trees

[jtonkfan]

I read Kim Cattrall was due to board the flight but canceled last minute.

[deanmine]

Originally Posted by jtonkfan ↗

I read Kim Cattrall was due to board the flight but canceled last minute.

There were several people who were supposed to board Pan Am Flight 103, but arrived too late to do so.

Celebrities

The R&B singing group The Four Tops had been scheduled to board Pan Am Flight 103 to return to the United States for Christmas after completing their European tour, but were late getting out of a recording session and overslept.
Punk rock musician John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) of the Sex Pistols and Public Image Ltd. and his wife, Nora, were also booked on Pan Am Flight 103, but missed it due to delays.
The No. 1 world tennis player in 1988, Mats Wilander, had made a reservation but did not take a seat on the flight.
The actress Kim Cattrall was also booked on the flight but changed her reservation shortly beforehand in order to complete some last-minute gift shopping in London

[a175]

Originally Posted by woodsetton ↗

They released the fucker who planted the bomb as he was said to be near death from cancer. Guess what? He's still alive and got a hero's welcome in Libya when he got home.

He was likely going to be released anyway. There was an appeal in process that many claimed would prove his innocence. The appeal was dropped in order for the transfer to be made... a transfer that may well have been linked to weapons systems contracts between Libya and the UK.

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by a175 ↗

He was likely going to be released anyway. There was an appeal in process that many claimed would prove his innocence. The appeal was dropped in order for the transfer to be made... a transfer that may well have been linked to weapons systems contracts between Libya and the UK.

More BULLSHIT from the self-hating, anti-American, anti-UK, anti-white-European Muslim convert.

Innocent my ass. Go fuck yourself.

[a175]

Originally Posted by facing_reality ↗

More BULLSHIT from the self-hating, anti-American, anti-UK, anti-white-European Muslim convert.

Innocent my ass. Go fuck yourself.

I'm not really anti-anyone, bub. Of the two of us, only one follows the other around spewing hate.
Please notice the word "claim" is used rather than "prove". Proof might very well be false, but the claims were certainly there. And the release would have been likely for the appellate process.
Here's a bit of what I'm referring to. It's just wiki articles that refer to the trial, appeals, and those who claim that there might have been something shady about the process. Being wiki, YMMV:

Megrahi's 2003 application Edit
Former SCCRC member, William Taylor QC, who acted as Senior Counsel for Megrahi at the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial and at his appeal in 2002, resigned as a Commissioner on 23 September 2003. This was the same day as the SCCRC received an application from solicitors acting on Megrahi's behalf, requesting that it review his conviction. Megrahi's appeal against his 27-year minimum jail sentence was scheduled to be heard in Edinburgh before a panel of five Judges on 11 July 2006.[3] This July hearing was, however, postponed to allow the question of the venue for the appeal (Edinburgh or Camp Zeist, Netherlands) to be resolved.[4] On 1 November 2006 Megrahi was reported to have dropped his demand for the appeal against sentence – and any further appeal against conviction that the SCCRC might award – to be held at Camp Zeist.[5]

SCCRC's decision Edit
In January 2007, the SCCRC announced that it would issue its decision on Megrahi's case by the end of June 2007.[6] On 17 June 2007 The Observer confirmed that the SCCRC's decision was imminent and reported:

"Abdelbaset al-Megrahi never wavered in his denial of causing the Lockerbie disaster: now Scottish legal experts say they believe him."[7]
On 28 June 2007 the SCCRC announced[8] its decision to refer the case to the Court of Criminal Appeal for Megrahi's second appeal against conviction, having concluded:

"that there is no reasonable basis in the trial court's judgment for its conclusion that the purchase of the items [clothes that were found in the wreckage of the plane] from Mary's House [in Malta] took place on 7 December 1988."
It is anticipated that preparation for the appeal before a panel of three Judges in Edinburgh could take as long as a year.

International observer's view Edit
Professor Hans Köchler, who was appointed by UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan, to observe the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial at Camp Zeist, Netherlands was reported to be baffled by the SCCRC's four-year delay in reaching a conclusion. Köchler said:

"In my experience as observer of the Lockerbie trial, the Roman law system is superior to the common law system (practised in Scotland), particularly in matters of criminal law. It is indeed revealing that it takes the SCCRC so many years (that are apparently needed, inter alia, for secret negotiations between the governments of the involved countries) to announce its decision on whether there should be a retrial in the Lockerbie case or not."[9][10]
Following the SCCRC's decision on 28 June 2007 to refer the case back for a second appeal, Köchler expressed surprise at the focus of the Commission's review and its apparent bias in favour of the judicial establishment:

"In giving exoneration to the police, prosecutors and forensic staff, I think they show their lack of independence. No officials to be blamed: simply a Maltese shopkeeper."[11]
On 4 July 2007 Köchler wrote to Scottish First Minister, Alex Salmond, to Foreign Secretary, David Miliband, to Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, and to FCO Minister of State with responsibility for Africa, Asia and the UN, Mark Malloch Brown describing the SCCRC's decision as "long overdue" and calling for a full and independent public inquiry into the Lockerbie case.[12]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scot...iew_Commission


Doesn't prove innocence, and I didn't say he was... only that there were claims to it. The odds are that he probably was guilty, but that he wasn't alone.


You'll eventually stop yelling "prove it" when you learn how to read complete sentences.

[dwizzy22]

Originally Posted by Sharon76 ↗

Ha ha, yeah and their favourite flavour of crisps is "plane" Good old gallows humour.

Be even funnier if you were strapped in the condemned seats for the funny fucken ride.

[Kaboom]

Muslims and tinfoil parrots say they attack us because of Iraq. Well Lockerbie was done by muslims in the 80s.

[Kaboom]

Lockerbie bomber was realised with a negotiation with Prince Andrew who at the same time made some major business deals for the UK. Scotland yard and the victims families are 100% that the wrong man was locked up for it. There was some intervention from the USA in the 80s not to have it look like Iran did it. This came out after Thatcher died and the public were allowed access to her secret dealings.