[durt]

Stall/spin & T-tail reminds me of this:

CL600 flight test

"On the morning of April 3, 1980, C-GCGR-X, took on a test flight from Mojave Airport in California. The routine test flight was slated to evaluate the craft's reactions to stalls in various configurations.

According to statements from the surviving co-pilot and flight test engineer, the flight crew was troubleshooting a noise associated with stalls conducted during previous flight test activities. A non-scheduled stall was conducted after the scheduled testing and the plane's angle of attack, the difference between the plane's flight path and its wing's chord line, increased past the maximum allowance of 34 degrees.

The flight crew lost control of the Challenger. Following the recovery procedures set in place, they were unable to regain control, going so far as to, in a last ditch effort, deploy the plane's emergency spin recovery parachute. Control was temporarily regained, but now the deployed chute fouled the flight characteristics. Unable to release the chute, with with the plane's starboard engine failing, the flight crew was forced to bail out of the doomed aircraft.

The plane impacted the desert floor near the village of Cantil at 9:10 in the morning. Unfortunately, the pilot, Eric Norman Ronaasen, was killed when his chute failed to deploy, and the copilot, Dave Gollings, received minor injuries. The flight test engineer, Bill Scott, was not injured"

[Azimuth]

It was a medvac air ambulance, repositioning, no patients. So along with the pilots, a flight paramedic and an RN were killed.

Informative posts in here, thank you!

that atc recording is nasty.

[Azimuth]

Forgot this: an excellent in-depth analysis of the crash

HERE

[Hogmann]

Some good early analysis here.
Probably the biggest takeaway is that circling to that Runway at night is not authorized under IFR. So the pilot canceled his IFR plan and went VFR in marginal conditions to get around the restrictions. It was legal but just because something's legal doesn't mean it's safe or a good idea.

[Azimuth]

Yeah, it was around a 20 minute flight, what a stupid thing to do. Complacency at best, just my opinion of course.

[Hogmann]

Seems like there alot of pilots here...

[REVZZYBAN]

I jumped once. This was a thrill and it was a duo jump. I took a 15 minute course and off we went into the wild blue yonder.

[William May]

Originally Posted by REVZZYBAN ↗

I jumped once. This was a thrill and it was a duo jump. I took a 15 minute course and off we went into the wild blue yonder.

GREAT! But I notice you DIDN'T post video of your body whapping into the ground!

Now, go back and do it again until you get some REAL MAN'S video!!

[HiBypass]

that beechcraft skyding video is the best example i've every seen to show what a stall spin is like. absolutely crazy.

[HiBypass]

Originally Posted by Otimebomb ↗

Damn. Poor guy knew it was over.

they always do. when you listen to the CVR from crashes its pretty scary and chills your blood to hear a grown man scream when he knows whats happening.

however, in the case of american airlines flight the captain simply said, "well, this is it mom. damn."

surprising he sounded so calm.