[TwistedSisterr]

my uncle was killed in 1991...... wow

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=7037,2262268

[Bletch]

The oil belongs to the Iraqi people and as a matter of FACT it has been that way since Saddam Hussein was removed from power hasn't it?
Oh wait, we should have let Saddam remain in power and most certainly would have uprisings like in Syria and have had yet another madman use chemical weapons against civilians. Which me Hussein didn't hesitate to use before (fact)

[JustifiableHomicide]

Originally Posted by Bletch ↗

The oil belongs to the Iraqi people and as a matter of FACT it has been that way since Saddam Hussein was removed from power hasn't it?
Oh wait, we should have let Saddam remain in power and most certainly would have uprisings like in Syria and have had yet another madman use chemical weapons against civilians. Which me Hussein didn't hesitate to use before (fact)

You should actually watch the video before commenting..

The oil being pumped by foreign companies now from the ground in Iraq is owned by the companies. That was the whole point of the video.. You do know the US government has tested chemicals on the public before right?

[TwistedSisterr]

Originally Posted by JustifiableHomicide ↗

You should actually watch the video before commenting..

The oil being pumped by foreign companies now from the ground in Iraq is owned by the companies. That was the whole point of the video.. You do know the US government has tested chemicals on the public before right?

i wish you or somebody would find more like this so people stop giving the fucking govt so much "credibility".....

[oldnorseman]

We invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us, contrary to international law and human decency. The so-called "reasons" for the invasion -- WMD and other hokum -- were bullshit from the get-go. So now, from what moral high ground do we lecture Putin about his excursion into the Crimea?

[rob666]

Originally Posted by oldnorseman ↗

We invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us, contrary to international law and human decency. The so-called "reasons" for the invasion -- WMD and other hokum -- were bullshit from the get-go. So now, from what moral high ground do we lecture Putin about his excursion into the Crimea?

True. We can't ignore international law when it suits us, and then bash someone else for doing the same

[Ntwadumela]

Originally Posted by oldnorseman ↗

We invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us, contrary to international law and human decency. The so-called "reasons" for the invasion -- WMD and other hokum -- were bullshit from the get-go. So now, from what moral high ground do we lecture Putin about his excursion into the Crimea?

You do know that weapons of mass destruction was used by Saddam right?

Chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction and Saddam used them on more than one occasion, so how is the claim bullshit?

[Ntwadumela]

Originally Posted by Ntwadumela ↗

You do know that weapons of mass destruction was used by Saddam right?

Chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction and Saddam used them on more than one occasion, so how is the claim bullshit?

The use of the weapons were irrefutable evidence to support the claim of their existence within the country.

[JustifiableHomicide]

Originally Posted by Ntwadumela ↗

You do know that weapons of mass destruction was used by Saddam right?

Chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction and Saddam used them on more than one occasion, so how is the claim bullshit?

You do know that we sold Saddam those chemical weapons right?

[Kanda444]

i watched this.. i think they proved that the oil theory was the main focus but regardless of that fact, we were honestly somewhat forced into iraq anyway (or would have been).

Hitchens makes a great point when he said that we are (because of out alligences with other countries... i forget which treaty in particular...the UN mandates, i think) mandated to take action to stop countries from doing certain things. Iraq had broken this mandates and instead of the US acting on these, like they were supposed to, they sent UN weapons inspectors over to try to get them to find evidence of WMDs so the UN could act. those inspectors were repeatedly denied access and Iraq repeatedly violated UN mandates.


then 9-11 happened and the world changed...

...so, while the actual decision to invade should have been made and followed through earlier, in all honesty.

what happened after 9-11 is clear though... we were lied to about the full reasons for why we invaded iraq. the search for WMDs was real and, if you really examine the political climate of the world before 9-11, was a valid threat... but there were, for sure, other reasons and motivations on top of the WMD threat... and after the invasion started, the whole thing was handled in the worst possible manner.

so, im not saying that oil wasnt an issue... im simply saying that the WMD threat was also a real issue, one that needed to be acted on, and was a valid reason for invading when we did....

there was just obviously also more to the story that we were lied to about.