Race and Intelligence

[rrrr_reubs]

^Agreed.
tannersmith, I don't know if you are stupid or just blindly racist. There is no empirical evidence suggesting a causal connection between a person's biological race and their intelligence. Environmental factors such as discrimination and prejudice against minorities (which you are clearly doing) and the fact that most IQ tests are designed by the white middle-class for the white middle class can account for such variations.

[Vorgrus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_E...,_and_Behavior

Something similar...

[RedneckR0nin]

Originally Posted by kasapin

I've been working in Africa for some time... man people there are plain simple . I don't want to call them stupid... but ..... what can I tell you.. if it was up to them they will be still in the stone age.... I don't think that the lack of education is a factor or a reason for them being like that.
I came to the conclusion that they just haven't got the inside spark that makes us want to learn new interesting stuff , solve mysteries and so on.
My observations about the Africans is that they like to do their work slow, not trouble themselves with anything besides what to eat.... so therefore it is kinda in their nature to lazy physically and mentally.
Don't get me wrong .. I met some of the most sincere and wonderful people there. People not burdened by the greed for money and power. People who don't judge you upon what you have or wear... but other than that.. they are just simple.

I have guys in the same industry working in Oman, South Africa and Madagascar who all say the same thing.

ah-phhht! what a load of shit!!

[Arkoquisa]

Originally Posted by viljoencp

What a load of BS

go READ jeesus, prove its wrong! well lets look at things for a moment, who has the highest and lowest levels of social development, concepts of society and right vs wrong, technology, history, etc etc etc, as a historian who studies indigenous populations of the americas and european exploration, well you need t go look into things, sorry the truth is very plain for us to see and if you can't come to see that others are smarter than others... well than you are not grown up enough to handle hitroy and science... maybe school isn't for you, don't get your panties wet over it though because every race has shown that their people (except for one group) that they have these standards and abilities to make great empires and citystates, and then form a advanced and sophisticated system to which it used to make itself great enough for us to talk about today, GROW UP KIDS time to face the truth again its only history and science, you can't lie about things its intellectual injustice... go read a book you libtards and except what you can not, the bell curve, go read it and if that doesn't work go look at the level of indigenous social development for the worlds people, it is exactly the same as the IQ chart, you silly kids with no college degrees can kiss my blonde genius IQ ass as i go study native American social structure and development and work on my thesis and book

[curvature]

Whats your IQ tannersmith?

[curvature]

Originally Posted by Arkoquisa

go READ jeesus, prove its wrong! well lets look at things for a moment, who has the highest and lowest levels of social development, concepts of society and right vs wrong, technology, history, etc etc etc, as a historian who studies indigenous populations of the americas and european exploration, well you need t go look into things, sorry the truth is very plain for us to see and if you can't come to see that others are smarter than others... well than you are not grown up enough to handle hitroy and science... maybe school isn't for you, don't get your panties wet over it though because every race has shown that their people (except for one group) that they have these standards and abilities to make great empires and citystates, and then form a advanced and sophisticated system to which it used to make itself great enough for us to talk about today, GROW UP KIDS time to face the truth again its only history and science, you can't lie about things its intellectual injustice... go read a book you libtards and except what you can not, the bell curve, go read it and if that doesn't work go look at the level of indigenous social development for the worlds people, it is exactly the same as the IQ chart, you silly kids with no college degrees can kiss my blonde genius IQ ass as i go study native American social structure and development and work on my thesis and book

What a puddle of douche bag leakage.

[RangaRang]

This isn't taking into account 2 important factors. Internal economic drive and brain drain.

1. Take China for example. With its huge population and push to become a mature economic power, its focusing its academics in areas of technologies and science to boost its industrial capability. This internal economic planning coupled with a huge population which mitigates brain drain results in outperformance.

2. Brain drain- notice how the entire third world is significantly lower than the first world? When a home country has no economic mobility options, people with money, education, or drive to succeed leave for countries with better living standards. India's population is also very large but a majority of it is in abject poverty and much of its economy relies on outsourcing manpower and remittances. Hence, Indians all over the world are in the sciences and technical fields, while at home many can barely make a decent living. Take Iran for example, listed in the 80's IQ range. Look at Iranians living in the US, Europe, Japan or Oceania. They are among the most successful minorities abroad, most of them becoming engineers, professors, physicians, scientists, and entrepreneurs. This is because living conditions in Iran are so dismal compared to the education system there- the Iranian education system is actually very good, better than the American system in many areas. However, once people leave education in Iran, there's very few options job-wise. So they apply for visas ahead of time, or marry abroad, etc. to move into the US, Canada, or Europe. This is the process of "brain drain" and it affects every third world country.

Countries in Africa, for instance, have the problem of having little resources for academics and poor educational systems and facilities on top of scarce job prospects. This encourages emigrants to thrive in the first world much less successfully than their counterparts from countries with better systems. It often takes a couple generations for them to move up. Whereas the best brains are coming from China, India, Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and the like.

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, and fully to do with economics, geopolitics, and sociology.

[RangaRang]

The reason why people in Africa and other countries (like the Philippines- no offense to Pinoys or Africans here!) is because these countries have a host of mitigating factors that lead up to the migrant pools arriving in the West with little or no resources, connections, or drive to succeed in the best money making fields.

Filipinos live in abject poverty just like Africans (though not as bad). Both groups have poor education systems and widespread social and government corruption in their respective countries. There is almost ZERO upward mobility there and people are resigned to getting by or doing with less and turning to religion (both regions are highly religious by the way). And the people who do leave often pool their entire families' income and send a few out, who settle into lower occupations such as nursing, health technicians, call center aides, clerks, teachers, and social work. They leave their countries and struggle to make it into the lower middle class of the new country, whereas people from countries with more educational, systemic, geopolitical, or social advantages often arrive in the lower middle or middle class and work their way up, often becoming well off in the 1st or 2nd generations. People aren't inherently "simple". Lack of drive, settling for the bare minimum, lack of resources, economic and social disadvantage- these are what make people "simple" and happy in their poverty/ignorance.

Look at the difference between suburban and urban populations here in the U.S.- the "welfare addiction" for example, why people in lower income neighborhoods lack the ambition to move up. These are social and economic reasons, not because their noses are wide or their skin is dark. This is about as intelligent a claim as saying that Black people have an extra muscle in their legs, making them better at sports. Politics shape economics. Economics shape social dynamics. Social dynamics interplay with human psychology. And that is the framework.

The best example I can throw is (for those who were around at that time) the difference between West Germans and East Germans. West Germans were psychologically optimistic, driven, industrious, smart and calculated people. East Germans were depressed, "simple", hopeless, unmotivated. The impact of resource accessibility and economic factors are huge on human psychology, because economics is nothing more than the organized human attempt to ensure species survival.

[DannyDrama]

Originally Posted by weeb

This is about as intelligent a claim as saying that Black people have an extra muscle in their legs, making them better at sports.

Well shit, you just blew my best theory up.