[rob666]

Originally Posted by PinkPanties ↗

You can call yourself atheist and you can insult where I happen to live right now, but the fact is YOU have time and time again condoned that fanatical jihadist bullshit and refuse to see that the muslim world by their silence and financial backing of terrorists are doing just as much damage as if they were terrorists themselves.....attempting to destroy Israel....which DOES have its faults.....lots of them in fact.....

It isnt their wish to preserve their homelands that is the problem....it is the terroristic acts and the aggression towards the Israeliss, americans and anybody else that does not believe...as they say.....infidels.

Financing terrorists lol, ever see how much aid the US gives Israel?
The same amount the Continents of Africa and South America get, combined lol.
Except Israel only has 7.5 million people. So it works out to around 10k per person, per year.

So who is really paying for the illegal settlements? Who is really the terrorist?

[Pink.]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

So your against the Iraq war, but you don't see how killing 500k civilians for bullshit reasons is wrong? You can't understand that maybe, just maybe, THEY will HATE you for it?
Think about it.... 9/11 = 300 dead.
Iraq war 1-500k civilians dead.

But I guess thats too complicated.

The "new alliance".... sounds interesting.

It started long before the Iraq war. The Iraq war is wrong was wrong and will be wrong as far as I am concerned,

... but 3,000+ people were killed in 9/11 not 300....terroristic acts......all of the terrorist acts that were perpetrated outside of their countries...

and why the fuck do you think it's complicated?
....I do NOT condone the killing of civillians....unless those civillians are guilty of killing us.....or supporting killing us....and when I say support I refer to their training camps and financial backing of these jihadists....

Now you make it sound like we should not support our people killing them to keep them out of our countries....They have taken over some areas of Europe....and yes, it is because our governments have traded "their souls" for oil and other natural resources...

as far as pea brained goes, it is you who is naiive enough to think that these people will not eventually take away your rights in "your own country" if they are not stopped.

[rob666]

[quote=Blewvane;372978]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

I support the Afghan war, I have friends there.
I don't support attacking a country that didn't attack you first, which YOU can't seem to understand.

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Hahahahahaha, that doesn't make any sence at all. You support the war but you don't - lay off the weed mate, it's fucking with your head.

Fucking retard, I support the Afghan war because thats relevent to stopping al quada, killing Bin Laden and preventing future attacks.

I don't support the Iraq war, because it was based on lies, served no purpose and actually made things a whole lot worse.

I know that may not make "sence" but concentrate hard now.....

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[quote=rob666;372989]

Originally Posted by Blewvane ↗

Fucking retard, I support the Afghan war because thats relevent to stopping al quada, killing Bin Laden and preventing future attacks.

I don't support the Iraq war, because it was based on lies, served no purpose and actually made things a whole lot worse.

I know that may not make "sence" but concentrate hard now.....

In Australia and some other English speaking countries and provinces, "SENCE" is a perfectly correct way of spelling.

YOU are being PETTY.....

[rob666]

Originally Posted by PinkPanties ↗

It started long before the Iraq war. The Iraq war is wrong was wrong and will be wrong as far as I am concerned,

... but 3,000+ people were killed in 9/11 not 300....terroristic acts......all of the terrorist acts that were perpetrated outside of their countries...

and why the fuck do you think it's complicated?
....I do NOT condone the killing of civillians....unless those civillians are guilty of killing us.....or supporting killing us....and when I say support I refer to their training camps and financial backing of these jihadists....

Now you make it sound like we should not support our people killing them to keep them out of our countries....They have taken over some areas of Europe....and yes, it is because our governments have traded "their souls" for oil and other natural resources...

as far as pea brained goes, it is you who is naiive enough to think that these people will not eventually take away your rights in "your own country" if they are not stopped.

Nope, Muslims have been around longer than my country or yours. They have no means to take anything over, politically or by force.

I meant to write 3000, my mistake.
Point is think of how pissed you are about 3k civialian deaths.
Iraq has had 500k.... think about it.

And as far as history before the Iraq war, I encourage you to do some research.
Who installed and supported the Shah of Iran?
Who has helped the Illegal Israeli occupation against Muslims/Arabs when every other country has shamed it? How many times has the US vetoed sanctions regarding it?

Your right, this goes way back past Iraq. Start in the 1800's when the British were still in coloniel mode.....

[Pink.]

Iraq would not have the insurgent trash if the US had left saddam and his corruption in place.....That corruption was a lesser evil than religious fanatics with guns......and Christian fanatics like that are just as bad as Muslim fanatics.

[Pink.]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Nope, Muslims have been around longer than my country or yours. They have no means to take anything over, politically or by force.

I meant to write 3000, my mistake.
Point is think of how pissed you are about 3k civialian deaths.
Iraq has had 500k.... think about it.

And as far as history before the Iraq war, I encourage you to do some research.
Who installed and supported the Shah of Iran?
Who has helped the Illegal Israeli occupation against Muslims/Arabs when every other country has shamed it? How many times has the US vetoed sanctions regarding it?

Your right, this goes way back past Iraq. Start in the 1800's when the British were still in coloniel mode.....

Colonialism has brought about most of the violence and hatred that we see today.

as for Muslims not being able to take over politically or by force, not true....They are trying to impose their laws in the UK and other countries. What do you think should happen?

If you had children (dont know...just a scenario) would you want them living under strict muslim laws?.....would you want sya your daughter killed by her husband because he THOUGHT she might have looked at another man?

I know it is not that simple, but their terrorism combined with the imposition of even some of their laws is "giving them that inch" that will eventually allow them to take that mile.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by PinkPanties ↗

Iraq would not have the insurgent trash if the US had left saddam and his corruption in place.....That corruption was a lesser evil than religious fanatics with guns......and Christian fanatics like that are just as bad as Muslim fanatics.

Yes, this is an example of the problem.
Every time you meddle with something like this, you create more problems than you solve.
This has been going on for 100 years now, and if we keep fucking around in crazy parts of the world its not gonna change.
If we stayed the fuck out, maybe they would find someone else to hate. Until then, we are partly at fault.

[Pink.]

Of course we are partly at fault....but we arent flying planes into Mecca...we arent making these threats against civillians. we have in fact killed civillians who were mistakenly killed, being used as human shields, or in some cases participating in the war...it is not as clear-cut who is civillian and who is not in some areas.

whether our governments are at fault or not, we have the right to defend ourselves.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by PinkPanties ↗

Colonialism has brought about most of the violence and hatred that we see today.

as for Muslims not being able to take over politically or by force, not true....They are trying to impose their laws in the UK and other countries. What do you think should happen?

If you had children (dont know...just a scenario) would you want them living under strict muslim laws?.....would you want sya your daughter killed by her husband because he THOUGHT she might have looked at another man?

I know it is not that simple, but their terrorism combined with the imposition of even some of their laws is "giving them that inch" that will eventually allow them to take that mile.

I don't really respect anybody that lives by religous doctrines. Especially ones that degrade anyone.
Separation of church and state is essential, no matter what church. And right now, I feel much more threatened by Christian zealots trying to teach religous doctrine in schools as a rebuttal to evolution, or any number of other things they try to get away with.
I can't speak for the UK, but I don't know how they can pass a law with no support.
Doesn't work that way in Canada.