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03-01-2014, 03:55 PM
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lol Well, I don't think rational will have a role in your decision process should it be a loved one. That's why capital punishment is such a glorious thing. But, I am not here to debate that. It's just my opinion.
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03-01-2014, 04:08 PM
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Describing something as glorious is subjective, capital punishment having a positive effect on reducing pain and suffering to others is not. Is rape a glorious thing when you're feeling horny? Just because we feel like something is justified or right, doesn't make it so. That's how people who commit those awful crimes in the first place think. Us being, or having others there to be rational and use logic and reason can save us from the painful outcomes of such actions. |
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03-01-2014, 04:46 PM
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Those *people* don't think. They don't rationalize. They don't care. They are sociopaths. They have no remorse. They get great sick pleasure out of the vile acts they perform on the innocent. They will do it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. Don't put these vile human monsters in the same category as *normal* people.... The piece of garbage who raped and then beat to death an infant of 8 months should not die? Oh yes he should. Right now, in fact. |
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03-01-2014, 10:31 PM
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I see you've taken the time to really research this rather than acting on impulse and emotion. Whether you like it or not, they think. They justify the actions, just like you, or they act out of emotion, substance abuse, or impulse, just like you. Someone so disturbed and sick as to commit a crime of that magnitude doesn't simply appear in society over night. Simply killing someone removes the chance of study to possibly save any future victims from similar circumstances. Labeling them monsters in an effort to dehumanise them so you can enact whatever punishment you feel is reasonable IS to think like them. |
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03-03-2014, 11:28 AM
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This is an age old debate. One that will never be resolved. I have my opinion and I stick by that. Matti touched on it a little. Sociopath: A closer fit...draw your own conclusions folks Antisocial Personality Disorder is also known as psychopathy or sociopathy. Individuals with this disorder have little regard for the feeling and welfare of others. As a clinical diagnosis it is usually limited to those over age 18. It can be diagnosed in younger people if the they commit isolated antisocial acts and do not show signs of another mental disorder. Antisocial Personality Disorder is chronic, beginning in adolescence and continuing throughout adulthood. There are ten general symptoms: not learning from experience no sense of responsibility inability to form meaningful relationships inability to control impulses lack of moral sense chronically antisocial behavior no change in behavior after punishment emotional immaturity lack of guilt self-centeredness People with this disorder may exhibit criminal behavior. They may not work. If they do work, they are frequently absent or may quit suddenly. They do not consider other people's wishes, welfare or rights. They can be manipulative and may lie to gain personal pleasure or profit. They may default on loans, fail to provide child support, or fail to care for their dependents adequately. High risk sexual behavior and substance abuse are common. Impulsiveness, failure to plan ahead, aggressiveness, irritability, irresponsibility, and a reckless disregard for their own safety and the safety of others are traits of the antisocial personality. Socioeconomic status, gender, and genetic factors play a role. Males are more likely to be antisocial than females. Those from lower socioeconomic groups are more susceptible. A family history of the disorder puts one at higher risk. There are many theories about the cause of Antisocial Personality Disorder including experiencing neglectful parenting as a child, low levels of certain neurotransmitters in the brain, and belief that antisocial behavior is justified because of difficult circumstances. Psychotherapy, group therapy, and family therapy are common treatments. The effects of medical treatment are inconclusive. Unfortunately, most people with Antisocial Personality Disorder reject treatment. Therefore, RECOVERY RATES ARE LOW! PUT THEM DOWN. |
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03-03-2014, 11:59 AM
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"Socioeconomic status, gender, and genetic factors play a role." A study by Farrington of a sample of London males followed between age 8 and 48 included studying which factors scored 10 or more on the PCL:SV at age 48. The strongest factors included having a convicted parent, being physically neglected, low involvement of the father with the boy, low family income, and coming from a disrupted family. Other significant factors included poor supervision, harsh discipline, large family size, delinquent sibling, young mother, depressed mother, low social class, and poor housing. There has also been association between psychopaths and detrimental treatment by peers. For example, Henry Lee Lucas, a serial killer and diagnosed psychopath, was bullied as a child and later said that his hatred for everyone spawned from mass social rejection. Researchers have also linked head injuries with psychopathy and violence. Since the 1980s, scientists have associated traumatic brain injury, such as damage to the prefrontal cortex, including the orbitofrontal cortex, with psychopathic behavior and an inability to make morally and socially acceptable decisions. Children with early damage in the prefrontal cortex may never fully develop social or moral reasoning and become "psychopathic individuals ... characterized by high levels of aggression and antisocial behavior performed without guilt or empathy for their victims."Additionally, damage to the amygdala may impair the ability of the prefrontal cortex to interpret feedback from the limbic system, which could result in uninhibited signals that manifest in violent and aggressive behavior. Proponents of the triarchic model see psychopathy as due to the interaction of an adverse environment and genetic predispositions. What is adverse may differ depending on the underlying predisposition. Thus, persons having high boldness may respond poorly to punishment but may respond better to rewards and secure attachments. Rather than simply killing everyone you believe to be a psychopath, which I would imagine lead to you labeling another group of people to be put to death, maybe work on finding a way to prevent the situations and influences that allow pain and suffering from taking place to begin with. |
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09-22-2014, 03:17 AM
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I'm going to update this thread for 2013 executions and start a new 2014 thread. 
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