[amervet]

Protect your family people. Get yourself a gun if you don't have one. Why be that guy who is helpless when the other guy is empowered by his gun? I served my country and loss a limb doing so, aint nobody telling me to get rid of my gun after I've seen what people are capable of when they have firepower and others don't. I am a licensed carrier and have never used it to get a point across other than, don't fuck with me, my property or my family. This guy was just activated by a lack morality.

[cannonreload]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Why should racist kill themselves? And who'd be the judge on who's racist ? You?

Maybe one day your head will emerge from your anal cavity.

Isn't being racist mean you judge someone by the color of their skin? That you think "they're this color so they are probably like this, or they're that".

And it should be 100% equal, nobody gets special treatment or gets a pass because of their race.

I would bet anything by definition, you are racist.

Black people are every bit as racist as white people, Mexicans and Asians too.

Your view of racism is a politically driven view that meant to create more racism. And I guarantee you don't call out racist every time you see it. Just white people? Just on the internet?

Now, who's racist?

My entire point would command you open your mind and forget your political indoctrination. As if you are an alien visiting earth for the first time.

You wouldn't see white people as "the racist" because of slavery. They would see everyone as equals being equally responsible.

Because that's the way it really is. Man throughout history has done horrible things to eachother, which includes all races, not just white people.

And if you're a student of history, you'd know trying to hold people responsible, or blaming people today for the past has been done many times. And it never has accomplished anything good. Ever.

lmao...yeah it's pretty easy to tell what's racist to anyone with a tiny bit of rationality... you think I'm trying to change the world, windbag? you're a joke and so is the dbag you're defending... if they have every right to get on here like keyboard warriors and act all tough and talk shit because they are pathetic pieces of shit, then I have every right to get on here and call them out for it... and I don't even do that... I make a blanket statement in response to an obviously racist comment... if someone chooses to respond in a negative way, well then that's on them, isn't it? "ooh ooh look at the libtard calling us racist for making racist comments"... that level of hypocrisy should embarrass you, but it seems that you may be the one with your head so far up your own ass that you're already eating tomorrow's lunch

[niknik]

Originally Posted by cannonreload ↗

lmao...yeah it's pretty easy to tell what's racist to anyone with a tiny bit of rationality... you think I'm trying to change the world, windbag? you're a joke and so is the dbag you're defending... if they have every right to get on here like keyboard warriors and act all tough and talk shit because they are pathetic pieces of shit, then I have every right to get on here and call them out for it... and I don't even do that... I make a blanket statement in response to an obviously racist comment... if someone chooses to respond in a negative way, well then that's on them, isn't it? "ooh ooh look at the libtard calling us racist for making racist comments"... that level of hypocrisy should embarrass you, but it seems that you may be the one with your head so far up your own ass that you're already eating tomorrow's lunch

Yet you've already have shown calling someone racist is your go to move. You think it makes you "good vs evil".

But you're just plain full of shit. You still haven't shown where I defended this mass shooter. Because you can't. As I said, there's no logic or legitimacy behind you crying racism.

You're just the boy who called racism. And like the the boy who called wolf, nobody takes you seriously.

I mean you called the mass shooter a joke. How is someone who ruthlessly kills 22 people a joke to you?

Oh, I know, because this whole crying racism constantly is just a big game to you.

[niknik]

You're welcome to have the last word, this isn't the debate section so I'm won't be responding to this "conversation " again. Not too mention, you haven't really said anything thought provoking or even useful.
I get it, the only thing you know about racism is how to call people racist.

[cannonreload]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

You're welcome to have the last word, this isn't the debate section so I'm won't be responding to this "conversation " again. Not too mention, you haven't really said anything thought provoking or even useful.
I get it, the only thing you know about racism is how to call people racist.

it's tiring to defend the conscious decision of being a piece of shit, I guess... bye now

[justben]

Maybe if Mexicans and Central Americans would stay in their own fucking countries, we wouldn’t have people who felt compelled to do this.

Hail St Bowers
Hail st roof
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Hail st Breivik
Hail st mcveigh
Hail st earnest
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Praise the saints

[justben]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Why should racist kill themselves? And who'd be the judge on who's racist ? You?

Maybe one day your head will emerge from your anal cavity.

Isn't being racist mean you judge someone by the color of their skin? That you think "they're this color so they are probably like this, or they're that".

And it should be 100% equal, nobody gets special treatment or gets a pass because of their race.

I would bet anything by definition, you are racist.

Black people are every bit as racist as white people, Mexicans and Asians too.

Your view of racism is a politically driven view that meant to create more racism. And I guarantee you don't call out racist every time you see it. Just white people? Just on the internet?

Now, who's racist?

My entire point would command you open your mind and forget your political indoctrination. As if you are an alien visiting earth for the first time.

You wouldn't see white people as "the racist" because of slavery. They would see everyone as equals being equally responsible.

Because that's the way it really is. Man throughout history has done horrible things to eachother, which includes all races, not just white people.

And if you're a student of history, you'd know trying to hold people responsible, or blaming people today for the past has been done many times. And it never has accomplished anything good. Ever.

Jews, who are NOT white, were at the heart of the slave trade. They still are.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by justben ↗

Jews, who are NOT white, were at the heart of the slave trade. They still are.

Every race is at the heart of the slave trade. For obvious reasons (tiny cocks) (pedophilia frustration) certain people concentrate solely on the America slave trade with white people.

Egyptians own white slaves. Many Arab and African regimes owned white slaves. Native American Indians own slaves.

As long as there's been large groups of people fighting with other large groups, there has been slaves.

America is the only nation in the history of the world to fight a civil war to end slavery. I'd say that's pretty cool, and payment enough for the wrongs done. Isn't more than a half million dead white Americans enough to say, that's over with, no need to push it on to generation after generation.

[Missjulia92]

Originally Posted by beantown ↗

Just goes to show “A good guy with a gun” is useless in most circumstances.

I wouldn't even say "most." I'd say just in circumstances like these, for a few reasons:

1.) It's pretty much like a Pitbull vs. a Chihuahua. The Pit Bull is going to win based on its size and power. The weapons people carry do not have nearly as much power as the weapons these mass shooters are carrying.

2.) People have ZERO clue how they will react in a mass casualty situation. Someone might think "I'm a fighter. If something bad happens, I'm going to ward of the threat" and then they react by running away or freezing.

It's also every man for himself in threatening situations. Your brain pretty much goes into autopilot to guide you to do what's fit to survive. If your brain tells you "Hey, we gotta run out of this place," you're going to run out of the place. You're not going to be too concerned about what's happening to others around you, unless its a threat to someone you care or love about. Your brain may tell them to protect them first.

3.) Even if the person's brain instinctively tells them to fight, most people's aim fucking sucks. This includes your ordinary law enforcement. There's a reason snipers have to go through highly specialized training to get the precision they do. It's a learned skill that takes constant refinement.

The average cop goes to the shooting range pretty damn frequently and most of the time, they cannot even mow down a suspect shooting at them.

Add this into the adrenaline of a high-powered situation. You're likely going to be shaky and you might not be able to even operate your gun properly let alone aim.

I'm not saying I'm pro or anti-gun or carry, but I think people have to be realistic about their abilities. Especially in high-threat situations. I'm sure carrying a gun would be more realistic in a small-scale incident, like a robbery or an attack against a person or two, but in an active shooter situation, it's pretty damn useless.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Missjulia92 ↗

I wouldn't even say "most." I'd say just in circumstances like these, for a few reasons:

1.) It's pretty much like a Pitbull vs. a Chihuahua. The Pit Bull is going to win based on its size and power. The weapons people carry do not have nearly as much power as the weapons these mass shooters are carrying.

2.) People have ZERO clue how they will react in a mass casualty situation. Someone might think "I'm a fighter. If something bad happens, I'm going to ward of the threat" and then they react by running away or freezing.

It's also every man for himself in threatening situations. Your brain pretty much goes into autopilot to guide you to do what's fit to survive. If your brain tells you "Hey, we gotta run out of this place," you're going to run out of the place. You're not going to be too concerned about what's happening to others around you, unless its a threat to someone you care or love about. Your brain may tell them to protect them first.

3.) Even if the person's brain instinctively tells them to fight, most people's aim fucking sucks. This includes your ordinary law enforcement. There's a reason snipers have to go through highly specialized training to get the precision they do. It's a learned skill that takes constant refinement.

The average cop goes to the shooting range pretty damn frequently and most of the time, they cannot even mow down a suspect shooting at them.

Add this into the adrenaline of a high-powered situation. You're likely going to be shaky and you might not be able to even operate your gun properly let alone aim.

I'm not saying I'm pro or anti-gun or carry, but I think people have to be realistic about their abilities. Especially in high-threat situations. I'm sure carrying a gun would be more realistic in a small-scale incident, like a robbery or an attack against a person or two, but in an active shooter situation, it's pretty damn useless.

I disagree with a small concealed weapon being useless in a situation like this.

But I totally agree that most people who think they'd confront the gunman are fooling themselves.

But if you did decide to fight back. A place like a Walmart would be a perfect place to do it. Better than if you were in a small room with just a couple people. Where you have no element of surprise or ambush.

A mass shooter may have the bigger weapon, but they also are 1 person (usually) in a terrible defensive position.

Most of the time they have tunnel vision, they usually move forward towards wherever they see more targets. So if you can get behind them, or even in front of them behind cover where they don't see you until it's too late. I think you have an excellent chance of being successful.

But as you said and I agree, not many will put themselves in that situation. Because there's no guarantees.

Look at the mass shooter in Ohio I believe. He ran right towards the cops and never even saw them. they took him out before he knew what hit him. Probably because there's people all over the place, so the shooter concentrates on those easiest to kill.

I feel like I would confront a mass shooter. If the circumstances were in my favor. But then again, I don't want to die either. Hopefully I never find out.

It would be horrible to witness. And it would be horrible to live with. Being armed, but running away while people are being killed behind you.