[Mkx240]

Never forget the victims and the brave men and women who helped save so many lives on 9/11

[oscarxp25]

Bill, where you at, buddy?

I have a crazy story about that day. I work with a woman whose husband was down there doing construction near the site. When the initial explosion happened he went to check it out. As he proceeded closer, he saw many people falling and jumping out. He was pretty close to the trade centers when he felt a hand grasp his shoulder. At first, he thought it was a police officer telling him to get away from the buildings. but then the hand slid off his shoulder and fell to the ground. It was a jumper's hand and lower arm that had landed on him.

[Billthegravedigger]

Damn, that would be fucked up. Firefighter Danny Suhr was hit by the ankle area of a jumper and it split his head open and broke his neck.

[Billthegravedigger]

There were people on the plaza in between the North face of the North Tower and the customs house that had similar shit happen.
When the plane hit, as you already know, it cut large sections out of the North face, and people stumbled out from smoke and fire blinding them.

Some hit the concrete, but some hit the roof of the Custom's Building, and as youcan imagine, they still exploded on impact. Some body parts still continued to the concrete and got a few covered in blood and skin and muscle tissue.

Not a pretty sight, and damn sure fucked up to have human organs and body parts rain down on you. Something I fortunately did not have to experience.


You ever watched World Trade Center ? In the extras section, there is a deleted scene called " fireman Johnny ". Check it out if you get the chance. According to Oliver Stone, he was intended to represent a firefighter that was next to Danny Suhr, who was killed by a jumper on the South side of the South Tower, one of a very few from the South Tower.

[mantara32]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

Some hit the concrete, but some hit the roof of the Custom's Building, and as youcan imagine, they still exploded on impact. Some body parts still continued to the concrete and got a few covered in blood and skin and muscle tissue.

I was always under the impression that the image of the shredded leg lying on the roadside was one of a few body parts that managed to make it's way through the south tower relatively intact. The reason this seems to stick in my mind is because the evidence of trauma on the leg, as well as the way the pant leg and shoe have been shredded and torn towards the rear of the leg, is very similar to what is seen in the aftermath of high speed jet crashes, such as private/commercial jets and large passenger jets. Often through a forest of trees or jungle. The way the toes have been forced through the front of the leather shoes, the pants ripped and pulled tight around the skin in loops and strap-like shreds. Like a limb that was sliced off and thrown through a shredder of metal and glass fragments, but managed to remain relatively untouched.

All very good evidence of a high speed impact.

So I have strong doubts the leg was the result of blunt trauma, such as a person hitting solid concrete at 150mp/h. I personally believe the leg came from a passenger, possibly female, who was on Flight 175 when it hit the south tower at 500mp/h.

[Billthegravedigger]

You may be right, but have you ever seen a body after hitting concrete at 148 mph ? There were a few that actually clipped the lights on telephone poles and it looked like they had been run through a cheese grater.

Dr. Michael Baden had trouble trying to tell who was what, and what was where. He knows his shit being one of the main medical examiners in the country. Ever watched the HBO series "autopsy" ? If not, check it out sometime.

They couldn't really tell a difference between people who jumped, and those killed in the collapse. Most pieces of people on the planes were shredded worse than the leg in the picture, but it's possible.

[Billthegravedigger]

I also have been looking into what you said, and I have no explanation except to say:

I can clearly see the RCA on the satellite dish, and I can clearly see intestines on the top ledge of the Marriott Hotel next to where the man landed.

Not sure what the difference is, but I can clearly see it. That is why I added the color to the picture, so others would have an idea of what it was, not to deceive people.

Anytime I adjust a picture, I post the original with the altered version, so there is no mistaking my intentions. There is so much bullshit out there about 9/11 as it is, I don't wish to add to it.

Those people did not deserve that, and making lightly of it only adds insult to fatal injury. That's not what I'm about.

[cornelison]

It was hard to see a body on the ground. If it were me I'd want a photo so people will see the reality of that day. A lot of what happened that day was sanitized. If anyone's too sensitive then they don't have to look. The silliest idea was to have all Hollywood film erase the WTC from scenes of N.Y. out of sensitivity & sympathy. What idiot thought up that?

[DeathSmilesMurder]

Great pic.

[Billthegravedigger]

Look closely people, there are bodies and body parts all over the plaza. Some still strapped in plane seats.