[Billthegravedigger]

There was a lot of bad shit to see that day. Some people made it down the stairs from areas that had caught fire, and the only way to describe it is the skin melted, and had come off like a glove. They were in agony, yet they still stayed focused enough to tell first responders where they had come from, and if anyone else was up there or not.

Some people that had been outside, quite aways from the North Tower where hit by glass and metal and were bloody from head to toe. They were walking around as if they were in a daze. I guess they were in shock.

Glass continuously fell from the upper floors of both towers, from people breaking them for air, and glass in the frames of windows above and around the impact got hot and shattered. You could see it and hear it hit the ground around the towers.

A man said his friend had a piece of glass fall on him, and it was still hot enough to leave a 3rd degree burn on the back part of his neck. I don't doubt that either, there was shit all over the plaza burning, plane seats, clothes, all kinds of debris. It looked like a body or two was burning as well.

I remember looking towards the Northeast corner in the North Tower, just outside the windows on the concrete. There was what was left of tan colored kakis, and a light blue long sleeved dress shirt. After you looked at it for a second, you could see that there was part of someone still in them. The clothes were tattered and ripped up, but you could still tell what they were.

You could see a shoe every now and then that still had a foot inside of it. One sight that was strange to see, and took a minute to realize what it was, was an upside down jawbone that had a couple of teeth still in it. It had some of the skin still covering it, but was upside down. You could tell it was human by looking at it, but then it set in what it was. The thing was, there were so many parts scattered out all over the place, you could not tell what belonged to who. Even if the towers had not collapsed, it would have taken a long time to gather the parts and try to figure out what went where, and with whom it belonged to.

[Codemonkey3]

I'll post some more content since I don't think it's very interesting to come here and post without an audience or feedback or anything.

First here is a picture of a bunch of shoes. I don't know if they were ejected from the impact zones or if people running ditched them (womens heels can really fuck up someones feet) but judging from the blood, plane wreckage and the fact one of the cops has a woman's purse I'll have to imagine they're from the impacts.


These pictures were taken by a Japanese man who lived near the base of the WTC. He only took a few pictures (I have three) but the things in the pictures extend else where.

You can see chunks of people ejected from the impact zones in the backround.



This guy according to him worked at a hotel or something and ran out with a bundle of sheets and started to cover some of the bigger body parts.


That's all he posted though, most of the other pictures were mundane burning tower pictures.

Although someone else took a picture of the hotel guy's handy work.

[Billthegravedigger]

Tell me your opinion on this here. I put 4 rectangles, 2 blue, 2 red. What is your opinion of what is inside the smallest red rectangle ?

[Codemonkey3]

I can't really tell. Could be anything, too much distance and the camera isn't focused on it. I'm pretty sure those rectangles are infront of the Marriot, so it could very well be a Jumper, or a piece of debris.

You can see that glass overhang where the rectangles are, the pedestrian bridge and the Park Fast sign or whatever above that bridge so it'll help give us a better idea of where to look.

The first picture of the Japanese guy's set he is facing directly toward the rectangles but there is too much in the way to see anything.


If the camera man in that picture we are inspecting had looked to the right a little more we'd have a pretty damn clear shot of that body in the middle of the parking lot.
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And because it's interesting here is another picture taken in almost the exact same spot after the collapse. The sign for Liberty Street is still there but the Marriot is gone.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Codemonkey3 ↗

I can't really tell. Could be anything, too much distance and the camera isn't focused on it. I'm pretty sure those rectangles are infront of the Marriot, so it could very well be a Jumper, or a piece of debris.

Call me crazy, but I saw the same colored clothes there, and they had to be after this picture. They were destroyed and had the same "hamburger looking meat" around them. I talked to another fellow, and he said he thought is was a jumper the man caught a picture of just as he was hitting the ground. Not sure about it, but it is possible I suppose.

[Codemonkey3]

He thinks the object in question in this picture is a Jumper taken just as he was hitting the ground?



Or did I misunderstand? I'm pretty sure though if that's the case the object would be blurry (due to how fast he's falling) or in the process of blowing apart and misting or something. I think more peoples gaze would be in that direction as well.

[Billthegravedigger]

I put a dark red rectangle around the flags on the Marriot Hotel, and bright red around what looks likr the same person, debris, or whatever it is. I am not really sure to be honest.

And the other picture with the blue and red rectangles as well. You can compare them somewhat, but not sure either way.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Codemonkey3 ↗

He thinks the object in question in this picture is a Jumper taken just as he was hitting the ground?



Or did I misunderstand? I'm pretty sure though if that's the case the object would be blurry (due to how fast he's falling) or in the process of blowing apart and misting or something. I think more peoples gaze would be in that direction as well.

Yeah, it kind of threw me off as well. I honestly looked at him like he was crazy when he said it.

[Codemonkey3]

I'd rather not speculate too hard without a solid visual. If you think that's what you saw than you're better than the picture which is just further confirmation but going on the picture alone I have no idea.

I saw a video of guys at the base of the WTC when WTC 2 started collapsing and as the camera guy began to run I could've sworn I saw a partially intact body laying on the sidewalk and I spent thirty minutes pausing the video before I found a high quality one and it turned out to just be a pile of fireman's tanks.

[Billthegravedigger]

However, draw your attention to this. Looks familiar doesn't it ?