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10-20-2017, 03:36 AM
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Re: Pictures & Videos From The Mass Shooting at Las Vegas Concert
its my opinion based on what ive seen in videos and what i heard from the two of the 4 people i knew that were there. one them got shot in the hip. they said they heard some shots that sounded far and weak like firecrackers and then some that were real loud and sounded almost like they were right there. they didnt realize exactly what was going on at first because they were in the front(if you notice any video the only people who run right away are all in the back)until people around them started dropping.
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10-20-2017, 08:09 AM
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ocrage not to dismiss your perspective or the reports from your acquaintances, but unless they had a background in or familiarity with ballistics i just wouldn't rely on their observations. I only say that because even in smaller events like car accidents the variances between reports are mind boggling. As for the videos, by my ear I can't authoritatively whether there were multiple shooters or no, but I'm still leaning toward a single shooter. side note...Anyone got a theory as to why he had so many guns as opposed to the 3 or so he'd need? |
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10-20-2017, 09:14 AM
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I agree. It took long enough for the cops to work out where the shots were coming from so I’d imagine a terrified member of the crowd would have no idea. As he was spraying a wide section of the crowd the bullets would have been near and far depending on where he was firing. He fired from two separate windows too, plus echoes from buildings around would have distorted sound. I think the arsenal of weapons is something to do with his bigger plan that was somehow thwarted. He had explosives he didn’t use etc. He was drilling when he was discovered by the guard so I don’t think he was ready for whatever he was planning. |
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10-20-2017, 05:09 PM
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I agree with Dandroid and Meridian, you really can't rely on inexperienced peoples perceptions. Not at all knocking your friends recollections, but you'd be surprised how notoriously unreliable "eyewitness testimony" is. I worked a robbery one time where one witness said the guy was wearing a blue shirt, a lady said the guy was wearing a white shirt, but once we found video of the incident, he was wearing a black shirt with a blue and white emblem on it. The witnesses had hyper focused on the emblem and their brains told them the whole shirt was an entire color when it was really a minute emblem color. I am familiar with gunfire in a urban setting and what you describe ("heard some shots that sounded far and weak like firecrackers") sounds to me like textbook cracking of the sound barrier that bullets break. When you shoot a gun, a rifle especially, the bullet breaks the sound barrier and causes a distinct crack that sounds away from where the gunfire actually is because that cracking sound comes from the bullet which breaks the sound a good distance from the gun itself and further, it echos off of other objects (windows, asphalt, buildings). I've watched all the videos on this thread and I can assure you, it was just one shooter. |
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10-20-2017, 10:07 PM
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Netherlands has a very high density still a very low crime rate. I believe the Netherlands, small as it may be, is the country with the highest density. |
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10-21-2017, 12:51 PM
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Did not see this video posted yet.
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10-21-2017, 12:58 PM
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Re: Pictures & Videos From The Mass Shooting at Las Vegas Concert
Updated October 19, 2017 - 5:08 pm The giant jet fuel tank struck by rifle fire during the deadly Strip mass shooting has been drained and McCarran International Airport officials are close to hiring a safety expert to inspect it. Airport officials hope to hire the consultant by the end of the month, spokesman Chris Jones said Thursday. “We believe we are already fulfilling industry best practices in terms of the security and safety of the tanks, but whenever something happens, its prudent to assess and reevaluate,” Jones said. The fueling system, which supplies small aircraft users nearby, has “remained functional,” Jones said. But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal last week that the 43,000-barrel tank and an adjacent twin tank, “need another layer of protection” in the wake of the Oct. 1 mass shooting across the street from the Mandalay Bay. The Review-Journal reported earlier this month that the shooter had fired at the tanks from his 32nd -floor Mandalay Bay room, striking and penetrating one of the tanks but causing no fire or explosion. Experts have said it is virtually impossible for rifle fire to ignite jet fuel. Richard Brenner, the Clark County Fire Department’s expert on hazardous materials, said Thursday the tanks present a “low potential for a problem” and are designed to withstand “extreme forces.” Undergound pipelines from the tanks carry the fuel to nearby pumps, he said. Two bullet holes on what is known as Tank 202, along with black powder burns and markings from investigators, were still visible Thursday near the top of the tank, which airport officials said was partially filled at the time of the shooting. Only one bullet made its way inside the tank, officials said. Lombardo said the gunman may have tried to create an explosion or diversion by firing at the tanks before he sprayed the crowd of 22,000 at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 were injured, and the shooter later killed himself. County Commissioner Chris Giunchigliani, who announced a Democratic bid for governor this week, was the first to call for a security review of the jet fuel tanks, which are about 1,100 feet from the Las Vegas Village venue where the festival was held. The tanks, which are surrounded by a chain-link fence with barbed wire, sit on airport property and are operated by Swissport Fueling, which has declined to comment. “We have to minimize the risk as much as we possibly can,” Giunchigliani said Thursday. “Who would have thought that a massacre like this would have occurred, let alone the individual had cased everything up to the point of knowing where our fuel tanks are located?” Several airplane hangars belonging to prominent corporations are near the tanks.  ·  ·  · |
