[m1324]

Originally Posted by FunkPumpkin ↗

Hey asshole, unregulated fully-automatic weapons have been illegal since 1934.

This fucktard likely ILLEGALY converted his firearms to full-automatic operation. So please, tell me, what NEW law could be passed to ensnare scofflaws such as this?

Please finish crying before you respond logically.

So basically everyone NEEDS to own guns because criminals don't obey laws and will have guns either way, but everyone is supposed to obey the law that says that an assault rifle can't be converted to be fully automatic?

Anyway, it's just stupid that regular people are allowed to own assault rifles. For what? People need an AR-15 to stop a burglar?

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by m1324 ↗

So basically everyone NEEDS to own guns because criminals don't obey laws and will have guns either way, but everyone is supposed to obey the law that says that an assault rifle can't be converted to be fully automatic?

Anyway, it's just stupid that regular people are allowed to own assault rifles. For what? People need an AR-15 to stop a burglar?

The US had a ban on assault rifles once. The murder per capita was 10.5 for that entire decade, and dropped dramatically the more lax gun laws became.

[FunkPumpkin]

Originally Posted by m1324 ↗

So basically everyone NEEDS to own guns because criminals don't obey laws and will have guns either way, but everyone is supposed to obey the law that says that an assault rifle can't be converted to be fully automatic?

Anyway, it's just stupid that regular people are allowed to own assault rifles. For what? People need an AR-15 to stop a burglar?

"Assault rifles" are restricted under the 1934 act. The AR-15 is not an assault rifle.

And yes, many burglars wear body armor, which resists common handgun rounds. Shotgun slugs will merely knock the wind out of them. Rifle calibers are all that can stop an assailant wearing body armor. Yes, they are necessary.

Full-auto is not necessarily required in the home-defense situation. But that is beyond the scope of the current discussion. Joe Six-pack with an AR-15 does not have a fully-automatic rifle (nor can it be converted to be as such.) Your point is moot.

[ferris209]

AR-15's are super fantastic for women, small guys, and teens. The reason being the design of AR-15's REALLY reduce recoil and improve accuracy over shotguns and even handguns. So, yes, I'd recommend AR-15's for some home defense.

[reaper69316]

I'm really disappointed in the group on this one where the fuck are the pics and videos instead of the common CNN comment arguing bullshit go to to Huffington Post if you want to waste a whole thread on political trash.

[Dodecahedron]

The idea that withdrawing the right to bear arms would not reduce the amount of criminal activity that was armed, baffles me.

[copkiller1997]

Originally Posted by ritthead ↗

FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS

Lol

[fruitbatz]

Was a lone gunman, good thing he shot and killed himself. Horrifying.

[Jedi`]

Originally Posted by fatter ↗

sure, but people not having an automatic weapon wont be able to kill 50 people within 4minutes from the 32nd floor...
weapons...ok...but is it really necessary to own full auto war stuff ?

It is incredibly difficult to legally obtain a fully automatic firearm.

To start with, fully automatic firearms generally start at $5,000 for something like a SMG (MAC-10 for example). A transferable (legal to own) M-16 generally runs $15,000.

Much more in depth background check.

Though you can modify firearms to become fully automatic, the penalty is huge. 10 years in federal pen + a $200,000 fine per firearm. Except for criminals and incredibly stupid people, the punishment generally makes people think twice.

From what I can tell, it sounds like the piece of shit used an AK-47 style weapon that was not fully automatic but was equipped with a crank type trigger that can somewhat simulate automatic fire.

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Not every violent act is terrorism. Motives matter. Maybe he was just mad at the world, maybe he was crazy, maybe he just wanted to die and take a bunch of people with him.

Terrorism by definition has political agenda behind the act.

So it's possible it's not terrorism. But just a violent act by a crazy mf.

A registered democrat committing a mass murder at an event where the vast majority of attendees are republicans/trump supporters.

Definitely doesn't sound polltically motivated.


Jedi`
Gunsmith by trade.

[sbcurious]

Originally Posted by Jedi` ↗

It is incredibly difficult to legally obtain a fully automatic firearm.

To start with, fully automatic firearms generally start at $5,000 for something like a SMG (MAC-10 for example). A transferable (legal to own) M-16 generally runs $15,000.

Much more in depth background check.

Though you can modify firearms to become fully automatic, the penalty is huge. 10 years in federal pen + a $200,000 fine per firearm. Except for criminals and incredibly stupid people, the punishment generally makes people think twice.

From what I can tell, it sounds like the piece of shit used an AK-47 style weapon that was not fully automatic but was equipped with a crank type trigger that can somewhat simulate automatic fire.


A registered democrat committing a mass murder at an event where the vast majority of attendees are republicans/trump supporters.

Definitely doesn't sound polltically motivated.


Jedi`
Gunsmith by trade.

He could have used a bump fire stock.