[spudigitti]

We as D R members should start raising money and form an international brigade of members here to go overseas to Iraq or Syria and take all of our anger and frustration with us and fight these cowards in situ


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[kustom80]

Originally Posted by vmk ↗

Quran 5:32. Whoever kills a soul it is as if he had slain mankind entirely.

This fragment of verse 5:32 is what the apologists want non-Muslims to believe is in the Qur’an, as opposed to the dozens of other open-ended passages that command warfare, beheadings and torture. But even what they usually quote from 5:32 isn’t quite how it appears. Remember all those ellipses? There's something being left out.

Here’s the full text of the verse:

“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
First, notice the gaping loophole. Killing is allowed in cases of murder or “for spreading mischief in the land.” Murder is pretty straightforward, but “spreading mischief?” If anything begged for a careful and precise explanation, this phrase certainly would. But generations of Muslims are left to apply their own interpretation of what “mischief” means - with varying standards. Violating Sharia law or sharing a different religious faith appears to qualify. Verse 7:103 of the Quran even indicates that merely rejecting Muhammad and the Quran counts as "mischief".

Secondly, note the broader context of this verse. It turns out that this isn’t a divine command to Muslims after all. It’s a recounting of a rule that was given to the Jews. It isn’t an admonition against killing. It’s an indictment against the Jews for violating the law given to them. “Any one” doesn’t mean “anyone,” but rather “any one” of the Jews.

Any application to Muslims would have to apply only to Muslims - as in Muslim on Muslim murder within the brotherhood of believers. In fact, the context of the verse is the murder of Abel by Cain. Historically, this verse has never been interpreted by Islamic scholars to mean that Allah places equal value on the lives of non-Muslims. The Quran says that restitution for murder is bound by the law of equality (2:178) and that non-believers are not equal to Muslims (39:09). Muhammad affirmed that while a Muslim may be punished with death for killing a fellow Muslim, they should never be slain for killing a non-believer.

Rather than encouraging tolerance, Sura 5 as a whole is actually an incitement of hatred with a hint of violence. Jews and Christians are explicitly cursed as ‘wicked’ people with ‘diseased hearts’ and as hateful ‘blasphemers’ respectively. Muhammad goes on to coyly remind his people that Allah loves those who “fight” in his service - and it’s fairly obvious who the enemy is.

Muslim apologists conveniently leave out the fact that the gruesome verse which follows 5:32 actually mandates killing in the case of the aforementioned “mischief”. It even suggests crucifixion and “the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.” (This injunction was dutifully followed by ISIS in 2014)

Although verse 5:32 recounts the law given to Jews, the verse that follows is clearly intended for Muslims. Verse 5:33 provides the basis for blasphemy laws, in which people are executed for insulting or questioning Islam. Ironically then, the very part of the Quran that apologists use to portray Islam as a non-violent religion has long been used as justification for making verbal offense into a capital crime.

So, the Quran's best example of moral instruction is a passage which actually mandates the torture and execution of those deemed a threat to Islamic hegemony...

With this being the best that Islam has to offer, it’s not hard to guess why the religion contributes over a thousand deadly terrorist attacks to the world each and every year.

[sf4951]

Originally Posted by deliverance_ ↗

They're economic migrants and the men are cowards, they should stay and fight for their land and country. Running and expecting free entry into countries and asylum is just wrong and cowardly, I've never seen a race run as much as they have.

I under stand the elderly and women and children leaving, but the grown men should be ashamed of themselves.

They have a chance to kill ISIS scum, the Americans were even funding them and backing them. But they all just RAN.

America was built by entire families who left a place that was hostile to them and sailed away for a better life.
An efficient response to ISIS will have to come from a world that decides to eliminate a cancer on the species.

[kustom80]

Originally Posted by sf4951 ↗

Some Christians, Hindus, Jews, plumbers, Doctors, Dog Trainers do bad things, most do good things.
It seems illogical not to say:
Some Muslims do bad things most do good things.
For those who cite the Quran as proof that Muslims are murderous, dangerous people, read the Bible and then post a reply

The Bible doesn't give open ended commands to violence, it is not the literal, eternal word of God like the Quran and such verses to violence are mostly restricted by the period they were written.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by demonspeedng22 ↗

Precisely.

Even better than a tactical nuke for a warning strike.

Use one or more each in Mecca, Medina, Tehran and ISIStanbul.


The moo slums must suffer from their own BS.

Ideally, they should be the only ones suffering from it.

So far, The West has allowed moo slums to dish out suffering with very little in the way of consequences coming back to the moo slums.

The Cost & Impact on the moo slums - alone - must increase at least 100 times.

Using multiple Tsar Bombas would be a very good start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba


Be sure to completely vaporize the Kaaba and all moo slums within range of it.

No warning.

moo slums gave no warning in Paris.

moo slums gave no warning on 9/11.

moo slums gave no warning on 7/7.



"Rock the Kaaba! Rock the Kaaba!"

[guims79]

sorry for another post, forgot to mention, french borders are absolutely not closed, it was a lie from Hollande to reassure people...there only car control, more than ever, but that's all.

[m1324]

Seriously, ban this fucking racist braindead moron already. Are there absolutely no rules? Demanding to nuke peaceful cities like Istanbul and Tehran? That's ok here?

[Killionaire]

Not worth it's own thread, but found video of the moment the shooting started at Le Bataclan during The Eagles of Death Metal Show yesterday.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by m1324 ↗

Seriously, ban this fucking racist braindead moron already. Are there absolutely no rules? Demanding to nuke peaceful cities like Istanbul and Tehran? That's ok here?

He's been here forever, this is pretty tame compared to a lot of his rhetoric.

He's just a troll, he won't debate or try to defend his positions, he'll just spew out some more single line crap.

Just try to ignore him, he's just trolling.

[guims79]

That's not for me. But to be honnest I can understand those behaviors better than the people actually in the streets. I know it's sounds hate but i'm angry.

Not rascist, just VERY angry.