[vulturedoors]

Originally Posted by shonriun ↗

The laws of physics make these collapses impossible.

And yet, it happened. I watched it happen on live TV, so don't tell me it's impossible. My company worked with people who died in those buildings (Marsh Advantage). I was the one who deleted their names from our database and marked them deceased. So you can fuck right off.

[kellyhound]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind Al-Qaeda’s September 11, 2001, attacks, has agreed to plead guilty, according to the Defence Department.

This development aims to bring resolution to an attack that claimed nearly 3,000 lives and significantly impacted the United States and the Middle East.

Mohammed, along with accomplices Walid Bin Attash and Mustafa Al-Hawsawi, is expected to enter the pleas at the military commission in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, soon. Defence lawyers have requested life sentences in exchange for the guilty pleas, as confirmed by letters from the federal government to families of the 9/11 victims.

Terry Strada, leader of a group representing some of the victims’ families, criticized the defendants, calling them cowards both during the attacks and now. Pentagon officials have not disclosed the full terms of the plea agreements yet.

This agreement comes over 16 years after their prosecution began and more than two decades after the attacks. The September 11 attacks involved Al-Qaeda hijackers seizing four commercial airliners, using them as weapons to strike the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon. A fourth plane, intended for a target in Washington, crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers attempted to regain control.

The attacks led to the U.S. initiating the “war on terror,” resulting in military invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and ongoing operations against extremist groups in the Middle East. The aftermath included the overthrow of governments, widespread devastation, and the 2011 Arab Spring uprisings.

U.S. authorities have long identified Mohammed as the architect of the 9/11 plan, allegedly approved by Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Captured in 2003, Mohammed was subjected to severe torture, including waterboarding 183 times, during CIA custody before being transferred to Guantanamo Bay. The use of torture has complicated the legal proceedings, as evidence obtained under duress is inadmissible, contributing to delays in the trial.

Daphne Eviatar of Amnesty International USA expressed a desire for accountability but also called for the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention center. She urged the Biden administration to ensure that state-sanctioned torture and other abuses are never repeated.

Strada, chairperson of 9/11 Families United, expressed disappointment over the plea deal, stating that many families wanted to see a trial and appropriate punishment. Michael Burke, another family member, criticized the prolonged wait for justice and the plea deal’s leniency.

The plea agreements, expected to bring some closure, have reignited debates on justice, accountability, and the handling of terrorist suspects in U.S. custody. The families of the victims continue to grapple with the long journey toward a resolution.

[mr_feelgood]

Inside job

[kellyhound]

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin III on Friday scrapped a plea agreement with 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, just two days after the announcement of a deal that reportedly would have taken the death penalty off the table.

Agreements with Mohammed and two alleged accomplices announced Wednesday had appeared to have moved their long-running cases toward resolution – but sparked anger among some relatives of those killed on September 11, 2001.

[Tony76]

Is there any footage of WTC 7 collapsing? That one was very strange to me, and a lot of other people it seems. What about the Pentagon? Also strange the only footage of the Pentagon crash was filmed on a toaster-oven with a potato assisting it, achieving an extraordinary frame-rate of 4 fps! In all seriousness though, I find it very peculiar that the government had a terrible camera, where even local civilians on 9/11 had great cameras. Terrible tragedy, and innocent people certainly didn't deserve to die, and like this.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Tony76 ↗

What about the Pentagon? Also strange the only footage of the Pentagon crash was filmed on a toaster-oven with a potato assisting it, achieving an extraordinary frame-rate of 4 fps! In all seriousness though, I find it very peculiar that the government had a terrible camera, where even local civilians on 9/11 had great cameras. Terrible tragedy, and innocent people certainly didn't deserve to die, and like this.

Bet the pentagon has better cameras but not released due to security reasons fueling debates.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/fbi...image-46490818
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33V73MY

[HonchoRyanC]

Still can see the flashes under the impact area right before collapse

[Gore Whore]

How was it lost for 23 years?

The whole thing was shady as fuck.

How and why did building 7 collapse?

The only footage of the "plane" hitting the pentagon looks more like a missile and isn't travelling on the angle the wings supposedly hit the building at. Also flying that low and level with the ground would be impossible for the most skilled pilots, let alone these hijackers who by all accounts were not great at flying anything.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Gore Whore ↗

How was it lost for 23 years?

The whole thing was shady as fuck.

How and why did building 7 collapse?

The only footage of the "plane" hitting the pentagon looks more like a missile and isn't travelling on the angle the wings supposedly hit the building at. Also flying that low and level with the ground would be impossible for the most skilled pilots, let alone these hijackers who by all accounts were not great at flying anything.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yths-pentagon/

[Tony76]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yths-pentagon/

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