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I grew up in KS and remember this from the news as a kid. My babysitter was terrified and had my dad walk her home (something he probably really enjoyed). Never did see the photos once it broke he was caught. Thanks for the post.
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Who the fuck took the pics of Rader all bondaged up? Especially the one in the tree?
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That pic of him in the courthouse in the suit...... He totally looks like Heisenberg (Walter White) with the hoola-hoop skirt hair lol.....
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Rader's testimony


Editor's note: The following is an

Eagle transcript of some of Dennis

Rader's court testimony Monday. Some

of the content is graphic, and reader

discretion is advised.

The Otero family

Waller: In regards to count one,

please tell me in your own words what

you did on the 15th day of January

1974, in Sedgwick County, Kansas,

that makes you believe you are guilty

of murder in the first degree.

Rader: Well, on January 15th, 1974, I

maliciously...

Waller: All right, Mr. Rader, I need

to find out more information, on that

particular day, on the 15th day of

January 1974, can you tell me where

you went to kill Joseph Otero?

Rader: Um... I think it was 1834

Edgemoor.

Waller: All right, can you tell me

approximately what time of day you

went there?

Rader: Somewhere between 7 and 7:30.

Waller: At this particular location,

did you know these people?

Rader: No, that was part of what... I

guess what you call my fantasy. These

people were selected.

Waller: So you were engaged in some

kind of fantasy during this period of

time?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: Now, when you use the term

fantasy, is this something you were

doing for your personal pleasure?

Rader: Sexual fantasy, sir.

Waller: I see. So you went to this

residence and what occurred then?

Rader: I had did some thinking on

what I was going to do to either Mrs.

Otero or Josephine and basically

broke into the house, or didn't break

into the house... but when they came

out of the house I came in and

confronted the family and then we

went from there.

Waller: Had you planned this

beforehand?

Rader: To some degree, yes. After I

got in the house I lost control. It

was, you know, in the back of my

mind, I had some ideas of what I was

going to do. I basically panicked

that first day, so...

Waller: Beforehand, did you know who

was there in the house?

Rader: I thought Mrs. Otero and the

two kids, the two younger kids, were

in the house . I didn't realize Mr.

Otero was going to be there.

Waller: How did you get into the

house?

Rader: I came through the back door.

I cut the phone lines. I waited at

the back door... I had reservations

about even going or just walking

away, but pretty soon the door opened

and I was in.

Waller: So the door opened for you,

or...

Rader: I think one of the kids, I

think Jr., the younger Joseph, opened

the door cause he let the dog out,

cause the dog was in the house at

that time.

Waller: Now when you went into the

house. What happened then?

Rader: Well, I confronted the

family... pulled a pistol, confronted

Mr. Otero and asked him to, you know,

that I was there, that basically I

was wanted... to get the car...

hungry, food... I was wanted, asked

them to lie down in the living

room... and at that time I realized

that was not a good idea. So I

finally, the dog was a real problem,

so I asked Mr. Otero if he could get

the dog out. He had one of the kids

put it out. I took them back to the

bedroom.

Waller: You took who back to the

bedroom?

Rader: The family... the four

members. At that time I tied them up.

Waller: While still holding them at

gunpoint?

Rader: In between tying, I guess.

Waller: After you tied them up, what

happened?

Rader: Well, they started complaining

about being tied up, and I reloosened

the bonds, tried to make Mr. Otero as

comfortable as I could. Apparently he

had a cracked rib from a car

accident. So I had him put a pillow

down for his head. I think he had a

parka or a coat underneath him. He

talked to me about giving me a car...

I guess he didn't have very much

money. There I realized that, you

know, I didn't have a mask on or

anything, that they could ID me, so I

made a decision to go ahead and put

'em down, I guess, or strangle them.

Waller: All right, what did you do to

Joseph Otero?

Rader: Joseph Otero?

Waller: J. Joseph Otero Sr., Mr.

Otero, the father.

Rader: I put a plastic bag over his

head and then some cords and

tightened it.

Waller: This was in the bedroom?

Rader: Yes sir.

Waller: Did he in fact, suffocate and

die as a result of this?

Rader: Not right away, no sir, he

didn't.

Waller: What happened?

Rader: After that I did Mrs. Otero...

I had never strangled anyone before,

so I really didn't know how much

pressure you have to put on a person

or how long it would take...

Waller: Was she also tied up there in

the bedroom?

Rader: Yes, both their hands and feet

were tied up She was on the bed.

Waller: Where were the children?

Rader: Josephine was on the bed and

Jr. was on the floor at this time.

Waller: We are talking first of all

about Joseph Otero... so you put the

bag over his head and tied it and he

did not die right away. Can you tell

me what happened in regards to Joseph

Otero?

Rader: He moved over real quick like

and I think tore a hole in the bag. I

could tell that he was having some

problems there, but at that time the

whole family just went panicked on

me, so I worked pretty quick.

Waller: You worked pretty quick. What

did you do?

Rader: Well, I mean I strangled Mrs.

Otero... she went out, passed out and

I thought she was dead. I strangled

Josephine and she passed out... I

thought she was dead and then I went

over and put a bag on Jr.' s head and

then if I remember right, Mrs. Otero

came back... she came back, and...

Waller: Sir, let me ask you about

Joseph Otero Sr. He tore a hole in

the bag. What did you do with him

then?

Rader: I put another bag either

that... I recollect, I think I put

either a cloth or a T-shirt or

something over his head and then

another bag, and then tightened it

up.

Waller: Did he subsequently die?

Rader: Well, yes, I mean I was...

didn't stay there and watch him. I

was moving around the room.

Waller: So you indicated that you

strangled Mrs. Otero after you had

done this, is that correct?

Rader: I went back and strangled her

again, it finally killed her at that

time.

Waller: So this is in regards to

count 2. You first of all put the bag

over Joseph Otero's head and he tore

a hole in the bag, then you went

ahead... did you strangle Mrs. Otero

then?

Rader: First of all, Mr. Otero was

strangled... a bag put over his head

and strangled him. Then, I thought he

was going down. Then I went over and

strangled Mrs. Otero, and I thought

she was down. Then I strangled

Josephine and she was down and then I

went over to Jr. and put the bag on

his head. After that, Mrs. Otero woke

back up and you know, she was pretty

upset with what's going on and at

that point in time, I strangled

her... the death strangle at that

time.

Waller: With your hands?

Rader: No, with a cord, with a rope.

Then I think at that point in time, I

redid Mr. Otero and put the bag over

his head, and then Jr.... oh, before

that she asked me to save her son, so

I actually had taken the bag off. I

was really upset at that point in

time. So basically, Mr. Otero was

down, Mrs. Otero was down, then I

went ahead and took Junior, I put

another bag over his head and took

him into the other bedroom.

Waller: What did you do then?

Rader: Put a bag over his head, put a

cloth over his head, a T-shirt and

bag so he couldn't tear a hole in it.

He subsequently died from that. I

went back up, Josephine had woke back

up.

Waller: What did you do then?

Rader: I took her to the basement and

hung her.

Waller: You hung her in the basement?

Rader: Yes, sir

Waller: Did you do anything else at

that time?

Rader: Yes, I had some sexual

fantasies, but that was after she was

hung.

Waller: All right, what did you do

then?

Rader: I went through the house,

kinda cleaned it up: It's called the

right-hand rule, you go from room to

room clean things up. I think I took

Mr. Otero's watch. I guess I took a

radio. I had forgot about that but

apparently took a radio.

Waller: Why did you take these

things?

Rader: I don't know... I have no

idea.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: I got the keys to the car...

in fact I had the keys, I think

earlier before that, a way of getting

out of the house, and cleaned the

house a little bit, make sure

everything was packed up and left

through the front door. Then went

over to their car and drove over to

Dillons and left the car there. I

eventually walked back to my car.

Waller: All right, sir, from what you

have just said I take it that the

facts you told me apply to all of

counts l, 2, 3 and 4, is that

correct?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Kathryn Bright

Waller: All right, Mr. Rader, we will

now turn to count 5: April 4, 1974.

Can you tell me what occurred on that

day?

Rader: Well, off hand, I don't know

exactly how to say it. I had many,

what I call them, "projects,"

different people I followed, watched.

Kathryn Bright was one of the next

targets I guess I would indicate.

Waller: How did you select her?

Rader: Well, I was just driving by

one day and saw her go into the house

with somebody else and I thought that

was a possibility -- there was many

places in the area, College Hill,

they are all over Wichita -- but

anyway, it was just basically a

selection process, work toward it, if

it didn't work, I just move on to

something else. But in my kind of

person -- stalking and trolling --

you go through the trolling stage and

then stalking stage. She was in the

stalking stage when this happened.

Waller: All right, sir, so you

identified Kathryn Bright as a

potential victim?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: What did you do then here in

Sedgwick County?

Rader: Oh, on this particular day, I

broke into the house and waited for

her to come home.

Waller: How did you break into the

house?

Rader: Through the back door on the

east side.

Waller: And you waited for her to

come home. Where did you wait?

Rader: In the house, there. Probably

close to the bedroom. I walked

through the house, kind of figured

out where I'd be if they came

through.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: She and Kevin Bright came in;

I wasn't expecting him to be there.

Come to find out, I guess, they were

related. At that time I approached

them and told them I was wanted in

California, needed a car, basically

the same thing I told the Oteros.

Kind of ease them... make them feel

better, and proceeded to... I think I

had him tie her up first and then I

tied him up or vice versa, I don't

remember right now.

Waller: Let me ask: You indicated you

had some items to tie these people

with? Did you bring these items to

both the Oteros and this location?

Rader: The Oteros I did, I am not

really sure on the Brights. When I

was working with the police, there

was some controversy on that.

Probably, more than likely I did...

if I had brought my stuff and used my

stuff, Kevin would probably be dead

today. I am not bragging on that, it

is just a matter of fact, but the

bonds I tied him up with he broke

them, and same with Kathryn, they got

out of hand.

Waller: Now you indicated you believe

you had Kevin tie Kathryn up. Tell me

what happened then.

Rader: Well, after, basically, I

moved her to another bedroom; he was

already secure there by the bed, I

tied his feet to the bedpost so he

couldn't run. Kind of tied her in the

other bedroom and came back to

strangle him and at that time we had

a fight.

Waller: Were you armed with a handgun

at that time also?

Rader: Yes, I had a handgun. Actually

I had two handguns. Well, I started

to strangle him, either the garrote

broke or he broke his bonds and he

jumped up real quick like. I pulled

my gun and quickly shot him. I hit

him in the head. He fell over. I

could see the blood. And as far as I

was concerned, I thought he was down

and was out. I started to strangle

Kathryn, then we started fighting.

Her bonds weren't very good, back and

forth we fought.

Waller: You and Kathryn?

Rader: Yeah, we fought. And I got the

best of her and I thought she was

going down and I could hear some

movement in the other room so I went

back and... no, I thought she was

going down and I went back to the

other bedroom where Kevin was at and

I tried to restrangle him at that

time and he jumped up and we fought

and he, at that time, about shot me.

My pistol that was in my shoulder

here, I had my Magnum in my shoulder.

Waller: Did you have it in a shoulder

holster?

Rader: Yes, uh huh. I had the Magnum

in my shoulder holster. The other one

was a .22. We fought... at that point

in time, I thought it was going to go

off. I jammed the gun, I stuck my

finger in there, jammed it. I think

he thought that was the only gun I

had. Once I either bit his finger or

hit him, or something, got away. I

used the .22 and shot him one more

time. And I thought he was down for

good that time.

Waller: So you shot him a second

time?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: I went back to... finish the

job on Kathryn. She was fighting, at

that point in time it was, and then I

heard some, I don't know whether I

was basically losing control and the

strangulation wasn't working and I

used a knife on her.

Waller: You say you used a knife on

her? What did you do with the knife?

Rader: I stabbed her two or three --

either here or here -- (pointed to

lower back and abdomen) under the

ribs.

Waller: Lower abdomen?

Rader: Underneath the ribs.

Waller: So after you stabbed her,

what happened?

Rader: Well, actually I think at that

point in time it was a total mess, I

didn't have control on it. She went

down. I think I just went back to

check on Kevin, or at that basically

same time I heard him escape, it

could be one of the two or... all of

a sudden the front door of the house

was open and he was gone, and oh, I

tell you what I thought: I thought

the police were coming at that time,

that was it. I stepped out there; I

could see him running down the

street, so I quickly cleaned up

everything that I could and left.

Waller: Mr. Rader, you indicated that

at the Oteros' you did not have a

mask on. Did you have a mask on at

the Brights'?

Rader: No, I didn't, huh uh.

Waller: All right, so what happened

then?

Rader: I already had the keys to the

cars. I thought I had the right keys

to the right car. I ran out to their

car. I think it was a pickup out

there, I tried it... it didn't work.

At that point in time he was gone,

running down the street and I

thought, 'Well, I am in trouble,' so

I tried it, it didn't work, so I just

took off, ran, went east, and worked

back towards the WSU campus where my

car was parked.

Waller: All right, so you had parked

your car at the Wichita State

University campus? How far away was

the Brights' residence?

Rader: Oh, I parked... what is that?

13th and... they were on, what is it

17th? I was just about one block

south of 17th, where the car was.

There is a park there, I parked in

that park, then I walked to 13th to

the Brights' residence. So I

basically ran back.

Waller: So you were able to get to

your car and get away?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Shirley Vian Relford

Waller: Can you tell me what you did

on that day?

Rader: Actually on that one, she was

completely random. There was actually

someone across from Dillons that was

a potential target. It was called

project Green, I think... I had

project numbers. That particular day

I drove over to Dillons and parked in

the parking lot and watched this

particular residence and then got out

of the car and walked over to it. It

is probably in the police report, the

address. I don't remember the address

now. I knocked and no one answered

it.

So I was all keyed up, so I just

started going through the

neighborhood. I had been through the

neighborhood before so I kinda knew a

little bit of the layout of the

neighborhood. I had been through the

back alleys, etc., knew where certain

people lived. While I was walking

down Hydraulic, I met a young boy and

asked him if he'd ID some pictures.

Kind of as a... ruse as you call

it... feel him out... saw where he

went... went to another address and

knocked on the door and nobody opened

the door, so just noticed where he

went and went from there.

Waller: You call these projects. Are

these sexual fantasies also?

Rader: Potential hits. In my world,

that is what I call them. Project --

hits.

Waller: And why did you have these

potential hits? Was this to gratify

some sexual interest?

Rader: Yes sir. I had a lot of them,

so it's just... if one didn't work

out, I just moved to another one.

Waller: So as I am to understand it,

on the 17th of March, l977, you saw

this little boy go into a residence

and you tried another residence. No

one was there so you went to the

residence where the little boy was.

Rader: And I watched where he went.

After I tried the one residence, no

one came to the door, I went to the

house where he went in, knocked on

the door told him I was a private

detective... showed him a picture

that I had just showed the boy, and

asked if they could ID the picture.

At that time I had the gun here and I

just kind of forced myself in... just

opened the door and walked in. I

pulled a pistol.

Waller: What gun? What pistol?

Rader: 357 Magnum

Waller: So you only had one gun?

Rader: Yes sir.

Waller: So what happened then?

Rader: I told Ms. Vian that I had a

problem with sexual fantasies... that

I was going to tie her up and that I

might have to tie the kids up and if

she would cooperate with us... We

went back. She was extremely nervous.

I think she was smoking a cigarette

at the time. We went back to one of

the back areas of the porch. I

explained that I had done this before

and at that point in time, I think

she was sick. She had her night robe

on. If I can remember right, she had

been sick and I think she came out of

the bedroom when I went in the house.

So we went to back to her bedroom and

I proceeded to tie the kids up. They

started crying and got real upset. So

I knew this was not going to work. So

we moved them to the bathroom -- she

helped me -- and I tied the doors

shut. We put some toys and blankets,

odds and ends, in there for the kids,

make them as comfortable as we could.

We tied one of the bathroom doors

shut so they couldn't open it, and

she went back and helped me shove the

bed against the other bathroom door.

I proceed to tie her up. She got

sick, threw up. I got her a glass of

water, comforted her a little bit and

then went ahead and tied her up and

put a bag over her head and strangled

her.

Waller: Was this a plastic bag also?

Rader: Yes, sir, I think it was but I

could be wrong on that. It was

something. I am sure it was a plastic

bag, yes.

Waller: You say you had a bag over

her head and strangled her. What did

you strangle her with?

Rader: Actually, on that, I had tied

her legs to the bedpost and worked my

way up and what I had left over and I

think I looped it over her neck.

Waller: So you used this rope to

strangle her?

Rader: Yes, I think it is the same

one I tied her body with.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: Well, the kids were really

banging on the door and hollering,

screaming and then the telephone

rang. And they had talked about

earlier that the neighbor was going

to check on them, so I cleaned up

real quick like and got out of there

and left and went back into my car.

Waller: When you say, cleaned up,

what do you mean?

Rader: Well, I mean, I had a

briefcase, whatever I had laying

around, tape, cords, whatever I had

brought into the house.

Waller: Had you brought that to the

Bright residence also?

Rader: I think it was some basic

stuff, but I don't remember total

stuff like I did with some of the

others.

Waller: Was this a kit you had

prepared?

Rader: Yes, I call it my hit kit.

Waller: All right, sir. You left the

Vian residence. Had you parked your

vehicle near there?

Rader: It was still in the same

parking lot there at Dillons... at

Lincoln and Hydraulic.

Nancy Fox

Rader: Nancy Fox was another one of

the projects. When I was trolling the

area, I noticed her go into the house

one night and anyway put her down as

a potential.

Waller: Let me ask you, you say you

are patrolling the area?

Rader: It is called stalking, or

trolling.

Waller: So you were not working in

any form or fashion?

Rader: If you read much about serial

killers, they go through what they

call different phases. That's one of

the phases they go through, is a

trolling stage. Basically, you are

looking for a victim at that time.

You could be trolling for months or

years, but once you lock in on a

certain person, then you become

stalking. That might be several of

them, but you really hone in that

person, they basically become the --

that's the victim.

(Judge thought he said patrolling.)

Rader: No, I wasn't working, sir.

This was off my hours.

Waller: All right. So you basically

identified Nancy Fox as one of your

projects? What happened then?

Rader: First, she was spotted. I did

a little homework. I dropped by once

to check her mailbox, to see what her

name was. Found out where she worked,

stopped by there once, Helzbergs.

Sized her up. The more I knew about a

person, the more I felt comfortable.

So I did that a couple of times.

Then, I just selected a night, which

was this particular night, to try it

and it worked out.

Waller: So tell me what you did on

the night of 12/8/77.

Rader: About two or three blocks

away, I parked my car and I walked to

that residence. I knocked at the door

first to see if anybody was in there

because I knew she arrived home at a

particular time from where she

worked. Nobody answered the door so I

went to the back of the house, cut

the phone lines, there wasn't anybody

in the north apartment, broke in and

waited for her to come home in the

kitchen.

Waller: And did she come home?

Rader: Yes, she did.

Waller: What happened?

Rader: I confronted her, told her I

had a problem, sexual problem, that I

would have to tie her up and have sex

with her. She was a little upset and

we talked awhile and she smoked a

cigarette. While we smoked a

cigarette, I went through her purse

identifying some stuff, and she

finally said, well let's get this

over with so I can call the police.

So I said OK. She said, can I go to

the bathroom. I said yes. She went to

the bathroom. And I told her when she

came out, make sure she was

undressed. When she came out I

handcuffed her.

Waller: You handcuffed her? You had a

pair of handcuffs?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: Then what happened next?

Rader: Anyway, I handcuffed her, had

her lay on the bed and I tied her

feet. I was also undressed to a

certain degree and then I got on top

of her and I reached over, took

either her feet were tied or not tied

but I think I had a belt. Anyway, I

took the belt and strangled her at

that time.

Waller: All right, after you had

strangled her, what happened next?

Rader: After I strangled her with the

belt, I took the belt off and retied

that with panty hose, real tight,

removed the handcuffs and tied those

with pantyhose. I can't remember the

colors right now. I think I may have

retied her feet. They were probably

already tied, her feet were. And then

at that time, I masturbated sir.

Waller: Had you had sexual relations

with her?

Rader: No, I told her I was, but I

did not.

Waller: So you masturbated, then what

did you do?

Rader: Dressed, then went through the

house, took some of her personal

items, then I cleaned the house up,

went through and checked everything.

Marine Hedge

Rader: Well, actually, kind of like

the others, she was chosen. I went

through the different phases,

stalking phase, and since she lived

down the street from me I could watch

the comings and goings quite easily.

On that particular day, I had another

commitment. I came back from that

commitment, and parked my car over at

Woodlawn and 21st Street at the

bowling alley there at that time.

Before that, I had some other clothes

on, changed clothes. I went to the

bowling alley, went in there under

the pretense of bowling. Called a

taxi. Had a taxi take me out to Park

City. Had my kit in the bowling bag.

Waller: Is that Park City in Sedgwick

County, Kansas?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: All right, you had a taxi

take you to Park City. What happened

then?

Rader: There I asked, I pretended

that I was a little drunk. I just

took some beer and washed it around

in my mouth and the guy could

probably smell the alcohol on me. I

told him to let me out so I could get

some fresh air. I had the taxi let me

out over at her house.

Waller: Where did she live?

Rader: 6254 Independence.

Waller: When you walked over there

what happened next?

Rader: As before, I was going to have

sexual fantasies so I brought my hit

kit. But lo and behold her car was

there. I thought gee, she's not

supposed to be home so I very

carefully snuck into the house, kind

of like a cat burglar. After checking

the house, she wasn't there. So about

that time the door rattled, so I went

back in one of the bedrooms and hid

back there in one of the bedrooms.

She came in with a male visitor. They

were there for maybe an hour or so.

He left, I waited until the wee hours

of the morning and then proceeded to

sneak into her bedroom and flip the

lights on real quick like, I think

the bathroom lights. I didn't want to

flip her lights on. She screamed. I

jumped on the bed and strangled her

manually.

Waller: Now, were you wearing any

kind of disguise or mask at this

time:?

Rader: No.

Waller: You indicated this woman

lived down the street from you. Did

she know you?

Rader: Well, casually, we would walk

by, wave. She liked to work in her

yard as well as I. It was just a

neighborly type thing. It wasn't

anything personal, just a neighbor.

Waller: All right, so she was in her

bed when you turned on the light in

the bathroom?

Rader: Yeah, the bathroom, so I could

get some light in there.

Waller: What did you do?

Rader: I manually strangled her when

she started to scream.

Waller: You used your hand?

Rader: Yes.

Waller: And you strangled her. Did

she die?

Rader: Yes

Waller: What did you do then?

Rader: After that, since I was still

in the sexual fantasy, I went ahead

and stripped her. I am not sure if I

tied her up at that point in time,

but she was nude. I put her on a

blanket, went through her purse, and

personal items in the house. I

figured out how I was going to get

her out of there. Eventually, I moved

her to the trunk of the car--the

trunk of her car--and took the car

over to Christ Lutheran Church, this

was the older church, and took some

pictures of her.

Waller: All right, you took some

photographs of her. What kind of

camera did you use?

Rader: Polaroid.

Waller: Did you keep those

photographs?

Rader: I think the police probably

have them.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: Well, that was it. She was

already dead, so I took the pictures

of her in different forms of bondage

and that is what probably got me in

trouble is the bondage thing. But

anyway then I moved her back out to

her car. Then we went east on 53rd.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: Trying to find a place to hide

her, hide the body.

Waller: Did you find a place?

Rader: Yes, yes I did. I couldn't

tell you without looking at a map but

it was on 53rd, between Greenwich

maybe. What is that I think between

Webb and Greenwich I found a ditch, a

low place on the north side of the

road and hid her there.

Waller: You say you hid her there?

Rader: Well there were some trees,

some brush and I laid it over the top

of her body.

Vicki Wegerle

Rader: Again, Vicki Wegerle was

another potential victim. I went

through those different phases, I

locked in on her as I would call it,

and decided I would try that day. I

used a ruse as a telephone repairman

to get into her house. I drove over

there in my own personal car around

lunchtime, or it was earlier in the

morning than that. I actually went

somewhere else and changed my

clothes, what I call my "hit"

clothes.

Waller: Hit clothes?

Rader: Basically different, things I

would need to get rid of later. Not

the same kind of clothes I had on. I

don't know what better word to use,

crime clothes, I just call them hit

clothes. I walked from my car as a

telephone repairman. As I walked

there, I donned a telephone helmet, I

had a briefcase -- I went to one

other address just to kind of size up

the house. I had walked by it a

couple of times, but I wanted to size

it up more. As I approached it, I

could hear a piano sound and I went

to this other door and knocked on it

and told them that we were recently

working on telephone repairs in the

area. Went to hers, knocked on the

door, asked her if I could come check

her telephone lines inside.

Waller: did she allow you in?

Rader: Yes, she did. I went over and

found out where the telephone was and

simulated that I was checking the

telephone. I had a make-believe

instrument. And after she was looking

away, I drew a pistol on her.

Waller: Is this the same .357 Magnum?

Rader: This was a different one.

Waller: You asked her to go back to

the bedroom with you after drawing

the pistol on her?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: I told her I was going to have

to tie her up. She was very upset. I

think I used some material. That's

another thing -- I think I used some

material that was in their bedroom,

and after I tied her hands, she broke

that. We started fighting. And we

fought quite a bit back and forth.

Waller: She was physically fighting

you?

Rader: Oh, yes sir.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: I finally got the hand on her

and got a nylon sock and started

strangling her.

Waller: So you wrapped the stocking

around her neck? What happened then?

Rader: I gained on her and put her

down and I thought she was dead, but

after she was down and not moving any

more, I rearranged her clothes a

little bit and took some quick

photos, three of them, if I remember.

After that, there was a lot of

commotion. She had mentioned

something about her husband coming

home, so I got out of there pretty

quick. The dogs were raising a lot of

Cain in the back, the doors and

windows were all open in the house,

and a lot of noise when we were

fighting. So I left pretty quick

after that, put everything in the

briefcase, and I had already gone

through her purse and got the keys to

the car and used her car for my

getaway car.

Waller: You indicate that you thought

that she was dead. Did you discover

later that she was not dead?

Rader: Yes. I guess the paramedics

arrived and tried to attempt to

revive her and that failed. I don't

know if she died there or at the

hospital. I don't recollect.

Waller: But you later found out she

did die as a result of your

strangulation?Rader: Yes

Dolores Davis

Rader: That particular day I had some

commitments. I left those, went to

one place, changed my clothes, went

to another place, parked my car,

finally made arrangements on my hit

kit, my clothes, and walked to that

residence. After spending some time

at that residence, it was very cold

that night and I had some

reservations about going in. I had

cased the place before and she was in

the house, so I finally just selected

a concrete block and threw it through

the plate glass window on the east

and came on in.

Waller: Where is this residence

located?

Rader: On Hillside, but I couldn't

give you the address. It is probably

61... uh, 62 something.

Waller: North or south?

Rader: North Hillside.

Waller: All right, so you used a

concrete block to break a window?

Rader: Plate glass window, patio

door.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: Noise. I just went in. She

came out of the bedroom and thought a

car had hit her house. I told her

that I was, uh, I used the ruse of

that I was wanted, on the run. That I

needed food, car, warmth and I asked

her, I handcuffed her, I told her I

would like to get some food, the keys

to her car, talked with her a little

bit, calmed her down a little bit,

and eventually I checked... I think

she was still handcuffed. I went back

and checked out where the car was,

simulated getting some food, odds and

ends in the house like I was leaving,

went back, removed her handcuffs,

then tied her up, and then eventually

strangled her.

Waller: You say eventually strangled

her?

Rader: Well, after I tied her up I

went through some things in the room.

Waller: You say you went through...

were you looking for something?

Rader: Personal items.

Waller: Do you take personal items

from every one of these incidents?

Rader: I did on the Hedge; don't

remember anything on Vicki's place;

the Oteros I got the watch and radio;

Vian's, no, I don't think so; Fox,

yes, I took some things from Fox. It

was hit and miss. If it was a

controlled situation, where I had

more time, I took something, but if

it was a confusion and other things,

I didn't 'cause I was trying to get

out of there.

Waller: All right, so in regard to

the Davis matter, you went around,

took some things; what did you do

then?

Rader: I strangled her.

Waller: What did you strangle her

with?

Rader: Panty hose. Kind of like Mrs.

Hedge. I already figured out, I had a

plan on leaving. I put her a blanket

and drug her to the car, put her in

the trunk of her car.

Waller: So you were able to strangle

her to death with these panty hose?

Rader: Yes, sir.

Waller: So you put her in your car?

Rader: Her car... the trunk of her

car.

Waller: What happened then?

Rader: I really had a commitment I

needed to go to, so I moved her to

one spot, I took her out of her

car... this gets complicated, then

the stuff I had -- clothes, guns,

whatever -- I took that to another

spot in her car, dumped that off. OK,

then took her car back to her house,

left that... let me think, now (makes

popping noise with his mouth several

times). OK, in the interim, I took

her car back to her house. In the

interim I realized I had lost one of

my guns, dropped it somewhere. So I

was trying to figure out where my gun

was. So I went back in the house,

realized I had dropped it. When I

broke the plate glass window it

dropped and fell on the floor right

there. And I found it right there. So

that solved that problem. Anyway, I

went back out, threw the keys,

checked the car real quick like,

threw the keys on top of the roof.

Walked from her car back to my car.

Took my car, drove it back and I

either dropped more stuff off or I

picked her up and put them in my car.

And then I drove up northeast of

Sedgwick County, dropped her off

underneath a bridge.

Waller: So, all of these incidents,

these 10 counts occurred because you

wanted to satisfy sexual fantasies.

Is that correct?

Rader: Yes. Um hum.


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