[Catsratz]

By The Associated Press
Published: 2:00 AM - 04/21/13

BOSTON — Tamerlan Tsarnaev ranted at a neighbor about Islam and the United States. His younger brother, Dzhokhar, relished debating people on religion, "then crushing their beliefs with facts."

The older brother sought individual glory in the boxing ring, while the younger excelled as part of a team. Tamerlan "swaggered" through the family home like a "man-of-the-house type," one visitor recalls, while Dzhokhar seemed "very respectful and very obedient" to his mother.

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...NEWS/130419569

Lengthy but very readable article in my area's online newspaper focusing on religion and the brothers' individual personalities.

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Apparently some Jihadi's... who knows about all of them in Chechnya and Degostan don't want anything to do with these guys, and say they are fighting Russia not the US, as well as condemning the attack on a civilian target.

http://news.siteintelgroup.com/compo...oston-bombings

[Impotent Rage]

Originally Posted by Catsratz ↗

Dzhokhar, relished debating people on religion, "then crushing their beliefs with facts."

There are no religious facts. I would have crushed his religious nonsense with actual facts.

[SwanSong]

One of the less publicized impressions from yesterday's stand-off. A family with young children in Watertown was out of milk during the lock down
pulled from:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lyndo...30566840352902

[Sibella]

This is one of the most ridiculous articles out there...

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/...-do-you-think/

It's so disrespectful to Jeff and his family. I'm really sick of people trying to say he's Nick Vogt. And to say all of those victims are actors.. Clearly Krystle is seen in the photos so is that an "act" too.

[tatumthunderlips]

Originally Posted by Sibella ↗

This is one of the most ridiculous articles out there...

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/...-do-you-think/

It's so disrespectful to Jeff and his family. I'm really sick of people trying to say he's Nick Vogt. And to say all of those victims are actors.. Clearly Krystle is seen in the photos so is that an "act" too.

I like how he claims that because of his EMT experience he is an expert in something... not to offend any EMT's (you guys do amazing work), but this guy clearly has difficulty understanding the wounds he's looking at. I would like him to explain his "missing legs prosthesis". He cant even identify the fact that Carlos isnt holding a turnequit but rather an exposed artery, and that due to the nature of his injuries his femoral was not ruptured (FEMORal artery = The artery which runs alongside your Femur).

(A. Femoralis)


The femoral artery (Figs. 549, 550) begins immediately behind the inguinal ligament, midway between the anterior superior spine of the ilium and the symphysis pubis, and passes down the front and medial side of the thigh. It ends at the junction of the middle with the lower third of the thigh, where it passes through an opening in the Adductor magnus to become the popliteal artery. The vessel, at the upper part of the thigh, lies in front of the hip-joint; in the lower part of its course it lies to the medial side of the body of the femur, and between these two parts, where it crosses the angle between the head and body, the vessel is some distance from the bone. The first 4 cm. of the vessel is enclosed, together with the femoral vein, in a fibrous sheath—the femoral sheath. In the upper third of the thigh the femoral artery is contained in the femoral triangle (Scarpa’s triangle), and in the middle third of the thigh, in the adductor canal (Hunter’s canal).

Amazing that after an event so widely captured and covered that the tin foil hat brigade is still out in droves. Wonder if shaking Jeff Baumans hand might change his mind or if he'd still call him a liar to his face.

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http://l.yimg.com/a/i/edu/ref/ga/l/548.gif

Image of the femoral description.

[AlphaX]

I have to say when I first saw the pictures I also wondered why there isn't more blood and why the blood that is there looks so bright.

Although I woulnt believe this was staged even a 100 evidences further, he is actually making a good point, why are they carrying away the black lady before Baumann, when he is obviously injured way worse?

Regarding the colour of the blood ppl are commenting on the same page that blood turns bright when oxygenated

And on the relatively low volume of blood a nurse posted:

The pictures are not a hoax. The assertion by the author of this is regarding the damage (or possible damage) to the femoral artery. I’m speaking about the double amputee picture.

A. The guy is suffering from a below the knee amputation, this is not the location of your femoral artery. Your femoral artery does run into your leg where it later splits. Thus, the femoral artery was not “severed”

B. large vessels have the ability to vasoconstrict once injured. This is a basic concept taught in trauma courses. Factually, all arteries have this ability. The vessels can maintain this vasoconstriction for a period of time before they release and blood loss begins again. This is why make shift tourniquets do not have to be perfect, just effective.

C. The amount of blood loss you are speculating is grossly exaggerated. It is VERY clear the person is in shock. For you, as an EMT basic, you may wish to burn this picture into your memory as to what hypovolemic shock looks like.

D. A lot of whack jobs want citizens to believe the government is so coordinated that they could perpetrate this act “staged.” Yet these people are the same ones who probably scream how inefficient, cumbersome, and beurocratic this same government is. It seems far fetched to be able to stage this type of event. A cursory google research will show you that these type of bombings have been carried out many many times before. Ask the Brits.

The author of this device garbage suggesting this is fake brings shame upon himself, the United States of America, and the medical community for the gross misrepresentation of evidence.

I am a ER nurse, flight nurse, and paramedic. I have also worked as a preceptor and instructor for paramedics. These events are real, do not allow yourselves, as Americans, to be divided and led astray.

I believe from this it didnt hit his femoral artery because lucky enough it blew his legs off below the knee. I suspect Krystie Campbell wasnt as lucky.

Quite interesting understanding all this.

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I worked 3 years as surgery assistant. And from what I can see the blood at the scene with the guy that has his leg ripped apart doesn´t look very convincing. But the CT about him being an actor seems far fetched in this story. Its like the WTC nutjobs seeing stuff in 5 pixel photographs. Those guys really destroy the actualy truth seekers work. Pls don´t mix facts with phantasy guys.

[realityhorror]

I wonder if he ran the brother over as part of some pre-arranged pact to not get taken alive. If the older brother really was the "brains" behind this thing then I'm sure the idea of becoming a martyr for his cause was very appealing. Then Dzhokhar spends the best part of a day bleeding out and the appeal starts to wear off for him. Or he chickens out... Or he loses so much blood that he can't even put up a fight...

Or maybe he just panicked and didn't mean to run him over. I guess it's pointless to speculate, but I hope we will get answers to these questions at some point.